The poor RMT's...

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

Sorry for my sarcastic reply. But yes, Selling virtual currency for real life money is illegal and goes against the TOS and EULA we ALL agree to upon playing the game. I don't fault you for not reading it, no one does. But it is there.

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I was being sarcastic lmao. Being against the TOS does not make something illegal. SE is not the government lmao

I was just pointing out the stupidity of your analogy

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Originally Posted by Laryndra

Personally I don't give a damn if someone else buys gil. I don't do it mostly because my main goal thus far was to -make- gill myself (crafting). I hate the shit out of RMT spammers and i wish they would die in a horrible fire. But I don't -give a damn- if the guy next to me wants to spend money on gil. Truthfully Gil does -very little- in this game. The most you can get with it is ilv 70 crafted gear, which is only -slightly- better than Darklight (and in some cases inferior). Good, SE took some of the gil out of the system.. but seriously people get way too worked up over what some mastercard dual wielding 12 year old does with mommies money.

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Well, you should care...


Because if there wasn't a demand for it, then there wouldn't be a market for it.



So people buying gil means there is a market, so they will advertise as much as they can.

When you pay for a service you shouldn't have to view advertisements... If they want to make money maybe they should go crack some FTP games and advertise stuff there... People that defend these people saying that they do it for the money and need a place to sleep... What a crock, the people doing it aren't there to make a dollar they are there to make millions of dollars...

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

When you pay for a service you shouldn't have to view advertisements... If they want to make money maybe they should go crack some FTP games and advertise stuff there... People that defend these people saying that they do it for the money and need a place to sleep... What a crock, the people doing it aren't there to make a dollar they are there to make millions of dollars...

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I pay for cable TV....

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

I pay for cable TV....

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Do you pay for hbo, showtime, cinamax, ppv... You don't get advertisements from third party companies there

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Originally Posted by Skullcrusher

To all those that actually feel " sorry " for these parasites...
Do you really like seeing ENDLESS walls of orange text upon entering the cities?
So much that its an endless loop? Its beyond spam, its infinite spam.
DO you really like getting tells every 5 minutes clogging up your chat box?

Ive had to turn my tells off, i may turn them back on again now.

I really like ff 14, but if i was to quit, 1 of the big reasons would have een from all the rmt spam. Those idiots are actually ruining the game for everybody

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...and most important, do you really like having your game accounts being hacked, stripped of all your hard work, and banned?

Because that is a central method of operation of all RMTs.

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Originally Posted by Jennica

It's not that funny, these people live off of this and need money to eat and survive. I don't want them in game but I do feel bad that some of them may lose their livelihood.

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I wonder how they survived 10-15 years ago, before MMOs were commonplace.

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

I pay for cable TV....

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Not nearly the same thing. You pay for cable, aka the service of bringing TV channels to your TV, not for the channels themselves. If you do pay specifically for certain TV channels, they usually do not show advertisements. Sort of like how you pay for internet access but still have to deal with advertisements on free news sites, but don't need to deal with advertisements on web pages or services you pay to use. FFXIV is one of those you pay for.

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Originally Posted by Yoko_Kurama

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You know that the $20 someone pays for their gil doesn't return to the farmers but their bosses who run the operation. The average farmer/accountjacker/spammer(which are likely bots running off a script)/whatever make next to nothing.

While some of the gil comes from farming as well, most comes from getting keyloggers into the end user's account and then having the compromised accounts getting stripped. Why take the effort of leveling up and finding spots to farm when you can let your potential customers do it for you, then rob it back from them.

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Originally Posted by Leira_Raine

Where do they trade? A freakin' back alleyway by the sounds of it...

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I see some crazy transactions in the auction house that look like gil delivery. It will be one item that is normally selling at an established price and all the sudden you see it going for an insanely high amount from the same retainer repeatedly. Also STF is posting regular reports on the amount of accounts banned/gil removed, at the lodestone. Most recent report was this week.

lol your alleyway comment made me think of Uldah, the alley connected to the adventurer's guild with the wine bottles on the ground and refugees begging for gil.

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Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants

When you pay for a service you shouldn't have to view advertisements... If they want to make money maybe they should go crack some FTP games and advertise stuff there... People that defend these people saying that they do it for the money and need a place to sleep... What a crock, the people doing it aren't there to make a dollar they are there to make millions of dollars...

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No, when you pay for something you at least should be reasonably assured you shouldn't be bombarded with adds that don't help to fund the content you are using.

TV for instance, even cable as a person below says, the adds pay to run the service. However these spammers use a lot of hacked accounts, and those fresh accounts don't do much to really keep the service running. Even more so because a lot of the gold comes from hacked accounts. How many people get hacked and then quit the game at that point? If anything these adds hurt SE.