Omg, people can really get crazy:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
I’m sorry you had to endure such things!
Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!
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04-29-2022, 05:10 AMValkyriaCrystalis
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04-29-2022, 05:19 AMRyuDragnierOh I remember that nonsense. I still find it stupid because Yoshi-P himself said that Hrothgar was always on the table, Viera was the last second addition.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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04-29-2022, 05:23 AMZanarkand-RonsoI had a similar experience trying to play DnD. At the time I dont think they had playable Beast Races (that or it was hidden from me) and I wanted to try and play a Gnoll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
Got bashed with "no furries allowed"
And pretty much just became excluded from my "friend group" because I like to play a Beast Race. Which lead to other "jokes"
It is a sad but real thing that many Furries or Beastman Enthusiasts have to deal with -
04-29-2022, 05:27 AMCaurcas
To be fair the furry fandom at large has given ample reason for those outside to generally avoid them.
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04-29-2022, 05:28 AMSennOh wow... That's absurd. I've never seen that ingame, but then again, I don't play hrothgar. That sucks dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
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04-29-2022, 05:34 AMMidareyukkiI won't deny it. There is A LOT that even furries themselves think "not even FF14 modders are this degenerate". But it does have its cooler side, and like I keep saying, they have come together to help members of the community before. Such as getting them houses or helping them pay off health debts. Most older furries are wary about how widespread it's become, not because it exposes how weird it can get, but because it can attract some really unwanted attention and make the community get crap for stuff it's unaffiliated with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caurcas
Still not a thing to go around crapping on other people for. Especially not from a game that prides itself on its Miqo'te waifu and its most recent Miqo'te token boyfriend. -
04-29-2022, 06:07 AMreivaxeThe cries of "Homophobic!" were nothing more than a sign of the times, where people screech about hate and violence to get what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus
Very silly in this cast, because anyone with eyes could tell that Hrothgar males were gonna be the gayest thing added to this game. People forget that gay comes in many forms, before Hrothgar Roebros were the gayest male group.
No one likes "the hunch" and a hunch would murder any female form from a design PoV so that's not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr
Despite what some would have you believe, the Bozja Queen is a good example of what to expect. Tall, upright, attractive, feminine form.
Yeah, many people who would be considered furry don't openly associate with the fandom for this reason. The fandom lacks gatekeeping and logically gets a bad rep for it. I've seen furry artist on twitter actively block and ban people who fallow them who they notice ALSO fallow Zooaphile artist or ask for Zoo commissions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caurcas
Which is funny, because we know now that part of the reason they did this was because "Well, Viera are ALREADY female only, so we can get away with it seeing as people wouldn't mind as much!".Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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04-29-2022, 06:18 AMMidareyukkiThat's the thing though. It's become more and more apparent that they did that, and now that we're asking them to be more mindful and serious about this, it looks like they're feeling insulted for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by reivaxe
Like... I'm sorry for enjoying your content I guess? I didn't enjoy Diadem nor Blue Mage, yet that kept happening, so why is this such a contention point?
Yeaaaah that's the sort of people we really don't want in there either, believe me... Unfortunately you can't exactly gatekeep it, and there is no real moderation in it. Because unlike what people believe, it isn't a fandom, it's a subculture. It's a totally different beast. Like, people call it "the furry fandom", but it's older than you think and it isn't a fandom. It's made up of fandoms, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by reivaxe
There are, however, stuff that does flag and monitor potentially-undesirable people, as well as regulation on places designed for them... within some variance (some websites are a hot mess, while others are pleasantly sober).
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04-29-2022, 07:42 AMreivaxeIf you're talking about the hair drama, it's a case of "What can they do?" at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
They pooed the bed hard by releasing these races designed this way, and there's no way to easily fix that. No matter what they do, they're realizing people will throw fits over. You have years of people modding old Hair onto Hrothgar with the ears clipping and years of people asking for shared hair for both of these races, partly because "Hair=content rewards" so they don't want to be left out and also simply because they want ... more hair. But Hrothgar were only able to be made the way they are because YP told the team to NOT account for hair.
So now they're making Shared Hair work on something that was never supposed to get shared hair by making "cat wigs" because they know people are gonna rip them apart for how bad ear clipping would look, and it's still not enough. Players don't seem to understand that resources are not infinite and just go off on things as if it all happens in a vacuum.
Like the "Why we got FEWER unique gear sets in 6.0 than 5.0?!? SE dropping quality!" thread. Nahh brah, perhaps it's the fact that they keep banging out new character models like Male Viera and the upcoming Female Hrothgar after YP told us they were just about at the limit of races they could support in ShB well also giving us stuff at the rate we're used to. Seems like I'm the only one here who noticed that 2.1/ 3.1/ 4.1/ 5.1 all gave use at least 1 NEW hairstyle for reg races yet in 6.1 the only thing we got were Viera and Hrothgar getting some shared hair. Would be silly to not think these things are connected, regardless of how you feel about it.
Everything has a cost, not 1 single race in this game gets the amount of effort Hrothgar are asking for or would be required for things to shake out the way they want, and very few in the West try to think of things from the Devs PoV. So yeah, YP is right to basically lay out that "We either do things this way, and you get shared hair with no ears on a reg bases ... or we do unique Hrothgar hair, and you get very few and very rarely get them (Which could literally mean "1 new hair an expac" for ya. People don't seem to think of that extreme, but we generally get few hairs an expac for reg races in the best of cases)".
It might be seen as "feeling insulted" but people need to know that there will be drawbacks before they blindly scream for 1 thing over another. That's the interesting thing about Female Hrothgar, they would have had to be designing them with shared hair in mind because it makes zero sense to repeat these decisions that landed them in this mess. I have no clue wtf they're gonna do with their heads, I can only hope they pulled a "Furry Miqote/ Mithra" head so that they can use hair without a problem. People are prob not gonna blow a pipe over the females not having their ears on the top of their forehead, so reuse the Miqote system and skip that nightmare I say.
I use the word "fandom" because it's easier for people to grasp, I know it's a subculture with a spiderweb of interest all over the place. I've talked about the history of furries a number of times in this thread, they had a major moment a 2ish decades ago where the fight to gate keep and self moderate was beaten, smeared as homophobic and online circles blew up. Now there are no boundaries, when you push for radical acceptance you get all the good and bad that comes with it.Quote:
Yeaaaah that's the sort of people we really don't want in there either, believe me... Unfortunately you can't exactly gatekeep it, and there is no real moderation in it. Because unlike what people believe, it isn't a fandom, it's a subculture. It's a totally different beast. Like, people call it "the furry fandom", but it's older than you think and it isn't a fandom. It's made up of fandoms, though.
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04-29-2022, 07:52 AMFukuroYeah I remember there being people throwing a fit because we got „sexy“ Viera ladies and bulky Hrothgar men. Some people took it so personal (because of stereotypes I guess?) to flame other Hrothgars players and the devs of being sexist and homophobes or something like that. Really dark and sad times.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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04-29-2022, 08:31 AMAllegorI was always under the impression that was to be the case all along, either that or the "exclusive hairstyles down the line" was a mistranslation I missed. I mean, afterall, Hrothgar clearly don't have human shaped heads and the hairstyles they do have are closer to manes than, well, hair? it just...made sense, idk.Quote:
Originally Posted by reivaxe
That's why I was both surprised and lowkey insulted we got Viera hand-me-downs - the fact the majority assumed it was an april fools joke just shows how objectively bad those hairstyles were. It's kind of a "they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should" moment imo.
yeh, about that....Quote:
It might be seen as "feeling insulted" but people need to know that there will be drawbacks before they blindly scream for 1 thing over another. That's the interesting thing about Female Hrothgar, they would have had to be designing them with shared hair in mind because it makes zero sense to repeat these decisions that landed them in this mess. I have no clue wtf they're gonna do with their heads, I can only hope they pulled a "Furry Miqote/ Mithra" head so that they can use hair without a problem. People are prob not gonna blow a pipe over the females not having their ears on the top of their forehead, so reuse the Miqote system and skip that nightmare I say.
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04-29-2022, 08:51 AMMellowMink
I don’t understand how there’s not only a decent amount of people who think that female Hrothgar shouldn’t be made since resources or some other double standard, but how they also think it’s fair that people who prefer playing as male characters should have more race options that those who prefer playing as female characters.
If you introduce male Viera, you should also have plans for female Hrothgar, or you’re being unbalanced; it’s really that simple. It is a good thing that developers are working on adding female Hrothgar to the game now, but the community should have been surveyed long ago in design stages about whether people would be okay with the idea of gender-locked races before the decision was made to go ahead with what would ultimately be an unpopular design limitation. Players also weren’t surveyed about whether they’d be okay with newer Hrothgar hairstyles having mutilated ears before time was spent working on inferior hair options, and you can see how well that turned out.
Some people also said earlier that this happened because Square Enix originally didn’t have plans to have two gender options to the two races, which… yes? What about it? That’s not providing new information. They shouldn’t have had any arbitrarily gender-locked mechanics in the first place, whether it be with races or clothes, and if the work is only partially complete like the currently limited headgear options for both races, then either hire more developers or don’t release things in an incomplete state. -
04-29-2022, 10:15 AMreivaxeAgain, EVERYTHING . Comes . At . A . Cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
Yeah, they said they would do that ... all the way before ShB even came out.
What happened? Welp, ShB came out and around 5.1 these races bitched about not getting new hair as it became clear that they weren't adding the new ones to them to people who didn't pay attention to what YP said before. Around 6 months after ShB released, the graphics team came to YP with a way to make the genders. They never intended to make these sexes, btw, so that would make their hair plans twice as hard.
Followed by years of Hrothgar bitching about having to pay to change their hair and wanting shared hair (It is VERY easy to find pics of Hrothgars modding in shared hair that they like on social media. Hell, there's people here posting the "Clipping and good choices vs no clipping and bad choices!" picture. Yes, some Hrothgar clearly want shared hair even if not all of them do) AND wanting hair options in general and here we are.
So lets imagine they stayed the course.
6.0 comes and Viera don't get any new shared hairs. They bring in Male Viera and now people must wait however long it takes them to make NEW Female hair AND Male hair for Viera. Hrothgar get nothing also, and when Female Hrothgar are added they have to make new unique hair and heads for both of them at some point and ignore all the feedback saying "Shared hair and don't make me pay $10 to change hair". That's ... it. We don't have a single new hairstyle in 6.0 that doesn't belong to male Viera yet, we can't know how long it would take them to even start making unique Viera only hair (let alone make male and female unique hair) or how many they would make by now. With these races having both sexes, it simply makes sense to try to treat them like other races when it comes to hair.
Hrothgar may be outraging themselves into a situation where in they have to wait 3 years for a single new Hrothgar hairstyle, perhaps that was the plan before the ShB feedback.
I thought they were Viere hand-me-downs as well at first, but 6.1 proves that's not the case. The devs aren't picking hair that they think would look good on Viera and just throwing it at Hrothgar, they're simply picking 5.X hair and going from oldest to newest with the shared hair. You can say that that sucks for Hrothgar because they're dude cats that don't look good in every hairstyle, but they're not a male only race anymore in SE's eyes.Quote:
That's why I was both surprised and lowkey insulted we got Viera hand-me-downs
IDK the point behind quoting me and posting that. That looks cursed/ off because a modder modded a male Hrothgar face onto a female Miqote. We can all agree that SE isn't going to make their faces look like THAT, much of the problem with that is the nose and mouth being as wide and the head.Quote:
The concept of "some level of furry Mithra/ Miqote head" isn't forfeit because a modder made something that looks off. Just google "Bless Pantera and Mascu races". Or hell, The Lops from 6.0 have clearly stylized animal faces that are more beast like than Miqote. -
04-29-2022, 10:59 AMAllegor
I just happened to see it on social media and thought it fitted your comment about Hrothgals likely having more uniform/humanoid heads to not repeat the same mistake as with the males, which is, sadly, the most likely outcome. Plus would be as close as what your version of the 'ideal' Hrothgal is - Miqote 2.0 - except with an actual cat face rather than a human's /shrug
That said, I still think Khajiits would be a much better and fitting design inspiration for Hrothgals than whatever human-not-human that Bless waifu is.
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04-29-2022, 11:02 AMJybril
With how terrible they've been treating the male's I'm not even sure I want to anymore lol.
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04-29-2022, 11:03 AMLisSquidKhamira is best cat <3333Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
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04-29-2022, 11:48 AMreivaxeI try to look at the "why" behind everything. Going to the full animal face is the "why" behind Hrothgar male's problems, because if you want people to read different animal faces as different ... then you need to make them more different to each other structurally, because humans can't read subtle differences in animal faces the way we read it in humans. (Was thinking about this recently. The reason a B2P game like GW2 can make tons of unique hair for their unique races is BECAUSE they force everyone to pay to change hair. There's an incentive to make tons of new hair AND faces to make people pay you something. FF14 aint that, hair is a rarely added reward for content and as such it's just better to have it be easy to use for everyone. No race requires the amount of tomfoolery as Hrothgar to make hair look good on them.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
So yeah, though I'd be cool with them having attractive, feminine, upright female bods and Khajiit faces, I know that that's gonna result in these problems a 2nd time.
I personally think they could turn out like Loporrits face wise (which isn't that far from Bless races). Loporrit have clearly stylized/ non-human/ beast faces, but also look cute and expressive AND flat. They're styled in a way that would allow for some easily diverse faces without making them look like completely different types of creatures. So something that looks like a more mature version of loporrit face with clearly cat nose would be interesting. Going for a somewhat slightly more cat faced Bless Panter would be fine to in my book.
I see it the otherway, them even trying to make the males more inline with other races screams that the females are being made with these thoughts in mind. YP knew the Hrothgar ears thing wasn't idle from the start, would be sideways silly to have not thought about addressing that for females, as they're still green lighting faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jybril
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04-29-2022, 07:01 PMSherlottaEryutI can't see anyone who are saying Female Hrothgar shouldn't be made, all I can see are people fearing the final outcome of their design based on how male Hrothgar are treated... You know Female Hrothgar are pretty much set in stone to be included, right?? So it really wouldn't matter if people are against their implementation at this point. Look how many protested against the Hrothgar's earless hairstyles before 6.1, both on the JPN and ENG forums we all asked for them to be postponed and they launched them anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MellowMink
My personal opinion is that F-Hroths should be further postponed until male Hrothgar are up to scratch, because as I said, a new race's gender takes up many resources and I think it would be best suited into SE righting their wrong first. I even said this before male Viera were brought in, that SE should focus on the current limited races before bringing in new ones with the exact same issues. People enjoy it because it's all fun and new at first, but eventually the novelty wears off and it only results in SE making a bunch of money from fantasias.
I remember I voiced my disappointment on the forums at F-Viera and M-Hrothgars neglect for 3 years, just because SE were busy creating male Viera.... The amount of new male Viera's who came at me at 6.0's launch, preaching how they won't ever get sick of it and yet, when I look at their profile icons now they fantasia'd to a different race. Lack of hats and hairstyles gets to people eventually, the novelty does wear off for the majority, while only a few stick it out and continue to wait for our next drip of hairstyles.
Some people, you mean me? It was in response to what you said "It’s weird that Square Enix didn’t just do both male and female Viera for Shadowbringers"Quote:
Originally Posted by MellowMink
Bare in mind, F-Viera and M-Hrothgar were supposed to be the last two races, with no gender counterpart planned, so I assume they were supposed to be each others 'unique' counterpart. So if they did follow your suggestion and made both male and female Viera in Shadowbringers, do you really think they still would have made Hrothgar? Knowing how many resources were taken up already. I reckon they wouldn't of considered anymore new races after Viera, it would've been done and dusted. -
04-29-2022, 07:39 PMFawkesWyznfarr
It's so fugged how good hroths look with hats and a straight posture.
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04-30-2022, 02:44 PMD3AFN3SS1337This is VERY cursed! I'd rather pick (my) Khajiit over this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
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04-30-2022, 07:31 PMZanarkand-Ronso
I have, and will still be hopelessly Optimistic for the future of the Hrothgar.
Seeing the work they put into Male Viera, I wanna think the same will be put into Female Hrothgar, since both genders are being worked on separately, as suppose to last time when Viera and Hrothgar were worked on at the same time.
Female Hrothgar are also being worked on where they said the are looking into fixing/improving the Game Engine. With all of that, I wanna pray it means good things are coming.
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04-30-2022, 09:59 PMAdamantini
I have just one request for SE. Please, please, please let the female hrothgar be a big cat, a muscular woman with a feline face.
Don't make a furry miqo'te.
Don't make the same mistake you made with the female au'ra. -
04-30-2022, 10:57 PMPip_ChickDid we play with the same people? All of that excluding the FC part has happened to me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
My favourite event was when a Miquo'te player told me that I should go and jump off a bridge for being a "Disgusting piece of furry trash" and stealing male Viera from them. I told them that that Female Viera stole the place of Female Hrothgar (albeit, I just did that to make them angrier), then they started to insult and tell me to go X myself, wishing the R-word on me and everyone I hold dear, etc. I screenshotted and reported them.
Literally being a Hrothgar was a living nightmare, but I enjoyed my poor boy too much change. -
05-01-2022, 12:39 AMFawkesWyznfarr
Sorry for the rant. Must be strange to see that in a thread of dudes pining for fluffy females.
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05-01-2022, 02:44 AMZanarkand-RonsoI dont think they made a Mistake with the Au'ra. Its unfortunate we didnt get cool Bi-Pedal Dragon People...but the Au'Ra as they are now are pretty cool...just..yeah. That early concept art man....Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamantini
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05-01-2022, 03:03 AMLioJen
They should really stop showing concept art if the finished product isn't going to match it. SE has had a problem with this ever since VsXIII
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05-01-2022, 03:20 AMLisSquid
What the great googly moooglie is going on here?
Ma'am, this thread is about female hrothgar. -
05-01-2022, 03:33 AMAelin_Ashryver
Yikes this thread got derailed.
I hope the female hrothy are not hunchbacks and can be made to look cute same as every other female in this game. I don't want the disaster that is male hrothgar hair to also carry over to females. I was so sad when SHB revealed it was male only so I am hyped for the female launch, prolly next expansion. -
05-01-2022, 03:49 AMZanarkand-RonsoI for One...wouldn't mind the Hunchback. Its a Common Beastman thing because their physiology is different then the average Human/Humanoid. (Of course this is also an artistic choice) If they had a Quadraped run like the Charr and..i THINK Worgan (I swear I saw it) then the Hunch makes more sense cause their spin would be curved and allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver
But hey, if the Females do fit this "Queen" Motiff, then I guess it would be better if they stood up straight.
The Hair, I hope they get some Braids like the Male Viera, and a Bald option. I want a Badass Amazon Dammit.
Also FemRoe body. If people are gonna bring up how they look in FFX, then you know FemRoe body is obvious. Or at least they should be Tall....hmm....taller Females then Males...that might be interesting.
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05-01-2022, 03:50 AMFawkesWyznfarr
I'd offer you a tin hat but you probably can't wear it.
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05-01-2022, 04:44 AMAluja89Adamantine is talking about the females being small cute girls in comparison to their male counterpart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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05-01-2022, 04:48 AMNyteKitsune
wow.. this thread is still going? lol.. Still approve of the idea of adding female Hrothgar, not that I would play one, but they did give us male Viera so only fair that they should add female Hrothgar.. just sayin'
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05-01-2022, 04:53 AMCaurcasFem Au Ra are actually quite good. Easily amongst the best designed races in 14. Could be a little taller, but it's not a big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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05-01-2022, 04:58 AMSherlottaEryutI don't see why the developers should cater to those who want a Miqo'te 2.0 - If people want to play a human faced cat then it's already in game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aluja89
The only people within the community who haven't been catered to in terms of characters are those who wish to play a beast-like female character, and they should have all the face options available for them to choose, as opposed to narrowing down their choices by adding human faces. -
05-01-2022, 05:23 AMAllegor1 of each 'type' would be the most fair imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Aluja89
Face 1 - the feral mom
Face 2 - the cutesy housecat
Face 3 - an actual Ronso
Face 4 - the not-human waifu
Granted, considering such diversity in face structure is one of, if not the most prominent issue with male Hrothgars, this is highly unlikely, but hey, one can dream /shrug -
05-01-2022, 05:28 AMSturmChurroI thought both male viera and female hrothgar should have been made, but put on hold. I didn't think the genderlock outweighed the issue of the races (female viera/male hrothgar) being in the state they were in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut
I think people are being a lot more open with their opinions on here lately, because the mods seem to be completely absent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
People have always held.. certain opinions in this community. GM enforcement has simply scared people silent. People were always more open in private (discord).Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuDragnier
I have been put down for playing au ra, or miqo'te (which I play the most). Like my opinions matter less on here as well, several times in this thread actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midareyukki
I will say there does seem to be a pretty aggressive stigma over "furry" races. I've been seeing it a lot lately when people talk about WoW for example. Like in regards to the new dragon humanoid race - which I think are pretty cool actually. What's the alternative? 20 different variations of humans? I don't really see an issue with it personally, I don't really think about, or care what "furries" do in their free time, as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. -
05-01-2022, 05:45 AMKolsykolI don't mind a little bit of hunchback, I also don't want them to look like they're about to tip over tho lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
Women also have breasts which I think more easily will begin to look strange when compressed it's actually an issue even on RPR.
If you look at your character in the idle combat pose you can see that there's weird compression happening turning the breasts into sharp torpedos ( it's worse with some gear than others but it's still consistent ).
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05-01-2022, 05:54 AMAluja89Races are options and they're for everyone, no one is being catered.Quote:
Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut
Also, no dig. But you're playing a Viera, a human female with animal ears.
I believe they're going to want to avoid multiple headshapes, so the feline faces would just be slightly protruded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
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05-01-2022, 06:08 AMMidareyukki"omg people like the furry race, they're furries, they're icky and gross and weird degenerates that make the internet a horrible place"Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
-- A squid-faced Highlander Hyur with nothing better to do than to bother people
Meanwhile most of my interactions with Hrothgar have been about either comparing glamours, trying to out-cute eachother, engage in Bozja lore, talk about Radovan\Runar\Bajsaljen\Magnus or make fun of how macho they look.
Are there degenerates? ...do Au Ra have horns? Yes of course there are. Just as much as there are degenerate Elezen, degenerate Roegady, degenerate Miqo'te. Degenerates exist everywhere. It's not because furries are into your race that it's suddenly gonna go downhill.
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05-01-2022, 06:29 AMAllegorEhhh, debatable. Viera literally wouldn't exist if they hadn't catered to their fans. If 'catering' to certain demographics when creating playable races didn't matter, we'd all be playing Midlanders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aluja89
Playable races in games are tailored for people who like different things. Some like playing as small and cutesy characters, others like big and bulky, some like being fantasy races like orcs and elves, others just like being an average human, and some like playing something that isn't even humanoid, and therein lies the conflict if whether SE will listen to the admittedly smaller group of people that wants to play a female beastial character, or comfort to the majority that prefers sexy human-not-human aesthetics who may play them.