Alliance Raids and players not waiting for Cutscene Watchers

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Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck

LOL. Wow, the stalking is real today.

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The world doesn't revolve around you, Mr. "People can't have chronic illness in my DF runs so I'll report them when they leave!!!"

I legit didn't know you were you til I checked back into this thread LMAO

I'm even showing my sort of "petty"... "sure i am", after telling them that there are way better options than regening everybody and cure 2ing for free cure, it wasn't even much more before, just asking to why.
My "here it is with cure 1" is not being petty since they told me i'm wrong with knowing how freecure works and they were indeed fishing for it the whole raid. Didnt work for them (obviously), worked for me.
They also told our Nin that her dps was low? Which it wasnt.

https://i.imgur.com/tJf3f7v.png
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bad quality, had to pull that one from a video.

So yes, people definitely WANT to kick you with basically telling them facts and then SHOWING them the facts undeniably with cure 1 popping freecure.
Not much missing other than me giving all the options other than cure2 ing for mp, since they ran out of mp by doing so and healing what doesnt need to be healed, too.

So yes, as said, people are definitely just willing to kick others. They were with friends too.

So it's not that weird. And you can be like "look at her for the slightly sarcastic answer, shes so bad, get her!"

Wont derail the thread more.

Edit: okay, heres more, sorry for bad quality
https://i.imgur.com/IwjfDvA.png

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

The world doesn't revolve around you, Mr. "People can't have chronic illness in my DF runs so I'll report them when they leave!!!"

I legit didn't know you were you til I checked back into this thread LMAO

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Whoa Deja vu lol Saw your forum name and think I saw someone with the same name here on Lamia last night.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Whoa Deja vu lol Saw your forum name and think I saw someone with the same name here on Lamia last night.

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Oh my! That's always fun lol.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

I assure you were we in a 4 man, which is the scenario you mentioned, and I am the tank, and you pull as a dps, nobody is going to defend you, nobody is going to be mad at me for letting you die. I'm also sure nobody would oppose if I initiated a vote-kick which odds are I would. To suggest you, knowingly, doing something toxic, being responded to predictably, then painting the people you were toxic towards as the bad guys and suggesting they be banned (and I have seen you in other threads on this topic suggest cutscene watchers are breaking TOS for watching cutscenes after you pulled without warning or consent (and not even as the tank) because they were too busy watching a cutscene to help). This is the literal definition of being passive aggressive, I'd go further and argue this is just straight up anti-social behavior.

In an alliance raid? Sure you'll probably get away with it. You might not, though. But in dungeon? No, I assure you you will be running in alone and recieving no heals or taunting off, and odds are end up vote-kicked. It doesn't matter if you don't cause a wipe, you're displaying an extremely toxic attitude and utter lack of respect for other players which I have zero tolerance or patience for.

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If you were my tank and deliberately let the DPS die because they were slightly ahead and grabbed mobs simply to get the ball rolling, I'd initiate the Vote Kick on you long before them because you're the only actually griefing in this hypothetical. The DRG running ahead to get Hi-Jump on CD so they can go into Nastrond immediately once the mobs are all gathered up didn't cause the wipe. In fact, they were attempting to make things easier on both of us by killing mobs faster. You, on the other hand, did. Granted, in this scenario, I'd slap a heal on them to ensure they live. It's actually quite satisfying when a tank throws a tantrum over someone else pulling the same mob they were already going to pull a second faster only for the DPS and healer to promptly show how unnecessary a small pulling tank actually is.

Don't cite toxicity and a lack of respect then proceed to act toxic and disrespectful yourself. It really doesn't help your argument.

Usually people are very patient in that regard, but my first time doing Deltascape v1.0 I watched the intro cutscene and I had a guy say something along the lines "thank you for wasting everyone's time". I told him where to go and I advise anyone who get some impatient prat like that to tell them off and put them on the blacklist, even considering a report if you feel they went too far.

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Originally Posted by Cheremia

I'm even showing my sort of "petty"... "sure i am", after telling them that there are way better options than regening everybody and cure 2ing for free cure, it wasn't even much more before, just asking to why.
My "here it is with cure 1" is not being petty since they told me i'm wrong with knowing how freecure works and they were indeed fishing for it the whole raid. Didnt work for them (obviously), worked for me.
They also told our Nin that her dps was low? Which it wasnt.

https://i.imgur.com/tJf3f7v.png
https://i.imgur.com/aqDP1gb.png

bad quality, had to pull that one from a video.

So yes, people definitely WANT to kick you with basically telling them facts and then SHOWING them the facts undeniably with cure 1 popping freecure.
Not much missing other than me giving all the options other than cure2 ing for mp, since they ran out of mp by doing so and healing what doesnt need to be healed, too.

So yes, as said, people are definitely just willing to kick others. They were with friends too.

So it's not that weird. And you can be like "look at her for the slightly sarcastic answer, shes so bad, get her!"

Wont derail the thread more.

Edit: okay, heres more, sorry for bad quality
https://i.imgur.com/IwjfDvA.png

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With how Whm mp usage is right now using cure 2 to fish for free cure is just asking for problems. Using cure 2 without free cure is equally asking for issues. Not shocked that there are whm running doing this though.

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Originally Posted by MolotovDrago

Usually people are very patient in that regard, but my first time doing Deltascape v1.0 I watched the intro cutscene and I had a guy say something along the lines "thank you for wasting everyone's time". I told him where to go and I advise anyone who get some impatient prat like that to tell them off and put them on the blacklist, even considering a report if you feel they went too far.

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I mean yeah. That’s rude. I don’t think it’s worth a report. People are far too report happy. Though when I get Cape Westwind I have a habit of saying “Zzzzz” when I recall how the cutscene is 3x as long as the fight itself

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

With how Whm mp usage is right now using cure 2 to fish for free cure is just asking for problems. Using cure 2 without free cure is equally asking for issues. Not shocked that there are whm running doing this though.

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Was in Shadowbringers. They were constantly low on mp, while i wasn't. Whm can run low on mp if they dont use Lucid, even back then. I barely used thin air except for emergencies, i raised a billion people in that raid.
Asked them multiple times why Cure 2, got told for freecure, told them that ain't it.
They also regened me even tho i barely had damage and all that.
They were at fault for their low mp and told me they fish for free cure (with cure 2) for that.
Freecure is a trap many people fall into.

But that Whm tried to get freecure with cure 2! TWO! Not one, two. And thats not even what pops Freecure, if they tell me i'm wrong, i'm spamming cure1 to show my fellow whm, that it pops freecure.

Was just showing that the friends of them said that in chat because they wanted me gone over LITERALLY showing them that cure pops freecure, not 2.


SO to all these people in this thread. While yes, sometimes, people have something to hide. But i don't, i'm not afraid of this.
If it was for them, i would be gone from that raid. Even though i was the healer carrying that one.

My point of "i'm new" standing for a quick indicator of waiting for cutscenes except they skip them, still stands (to not derail it too much now FURTHER... help).

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

1 person doesn't get to hold up 23 other people in Crystal Tower, same applies for other raids that are years old. You can watch the cutscene and remain invulnerable as long as you do not exit out early, and aren't missing much in later raids because the last actual pre-final boss cutscene is an unskipable transition.

Puppet's Bunker is already a long headache of a raid so I cannot blame anyone who pulls the last boss early, seeing as by that point everyone is desperate to just get out of there.

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The problem with Puppet's Bunker, and I speak from having this happen to me, is that with the way the area is built and coded, if you're ported in, which is likely to happen form watching a cutscene, you're ported into a death wall and immediately die. Sure this is a problem the developers should fix so the location you get teleported to isn't immediate death, but until they do, it's not that hard to take a small break, have a sip of water, and just wait for someone so they don't die before they even get to try to start the fight.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

If you were my tank and deliberately let the DPS die because they were slightly ahead and grabbed mobs simply to get the ball rolling, I'd initiate the Vote Kick on you long before them because you're the only actually griefing in this hypothetical. The DRG running ahead to get Hi-Jump on CD so they can go into Nastrond immediately once the mobs are all gathered up didn't cause the wipe. In fact, they were attempting to make things easier on both of us by killing mobs faster. You, on the other hand, did. Granted, in this scenario, I'd slap a heal on them to ensure they live. It's actually quite satisfying when a tank throws a tantrum over someone else pulling the same mob they were already going to pull a second faster only for the DPS and healer to promptly show how unnecessary a small pulling tank actually is.

Don't cite toxicity and a lack of respect then proceed to act toxic and disrespectful yourself. It really doesn't help your argument.

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It's not the dps's job to pull mobs. If a dps is constantly rushing ahead and pulling things that's extremely annoying as the tank to deal with. It's actually hilarious how some of you are suggesting outright toxic and antisocial behavior, even justifying it with selfish rationals, then trying to paint me and anyone else who has a problem with your behavior as the bad guys. Nobody is forcing you to pull ahead of a tank. Nobody is forcing you to pull when someone is watching a cutscene. That's where you entire demented argument falls apart. You would have perhaps some shred of a point otherwise, but since you yourselves are intentionally pulling mobs when it's not your role, pulling bosses when you KNOW someone is in a cutscene (even if that someone is a healer), then complaining when someone doesn't support your actions, you don't get to cite TOS and trying to have those people banned, it's actually psychotic that you think that's an appropriate response to people not supporting your own godawful behavior.

Nobody. Forced. You. To. Pull. Early. Get that through your thick skulls because you cannot say "WTF this guy didn't help me when I was fighting the boss while they were in a cutscene or even make sure they were ready and not even AFK, TOS TOS TOS TOS TOS TOS". You are creating a problem, something goes wrong, then you blame people upset by your own godawful actions for the problem you created.

You people tried to moralize me and others over this entire topic, then come and say "actually I just play for myself IDGAF about other people's experiences yet I still expect everyone else to respect mine". You just lost the entire plot. But go ahead and do that, see how that actually works out for you in game. From my experience, outside alliance raids as I said already, it doesn't work out for you too well.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

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You might want to analyze yourself, your stance is hypocritical, because you are also, playing for yourself and do not care about others experiences, yet you still expect everyone to respect yours.

Edit: also, YPYT is against ToS ^-^

Why are you as a tank not making sure to make use of sprint and to stay ahead of dps so that everyone can use their kit to the fullest potential? Anyone can pull even if they are not a tank-its the tank's job to maintain aggro and for the healer to keep whoever is taking damage alive. In any case the progression in tone over the course of this thread is quite insightful.

Again, never underestimate what experienced players are able to pull off single-handedly, alliance raid, dungeon, or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

If you were my tank and deliberately let the DPS die because they were slightly ahead and grabbed mobs simply to get the ball rolling, I'd initiate the Vote Kick on you long before them because you're the only actually griefing in this hypothetical. The DRG running ahead to get Hi-Jump on CD so they can go into Nastrond immediately once the mobs are all gathered up didn't cause the wipe. In fact, they were attempting to make things easier on both of us by killing mobs faster. You, on the other hand, did. Granted, in this scenario, I'd slap a heal on them to ensure they live. It's actually quite satisfying when a tank throws a tantrum over someone else pulling the same mob they were already going to pull a second faster only for the DPS and healer to promptly show how unnecessary a small pulling tank actually is.

Don't cite toxicity and a lack of respect then proceed to act toxic and disrespectful yourself. It really doesn't help your argument.

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x2.

Typical idiotic and immature attitude " if you pull it first you tank it" , it takes one skill to fully grab aggro again.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

It's not the dps's job to pull mobs. If a dps is constantly rushing ahead and pulling things that's extremely annoying as the tank to deal with. It's actually hilarious how some of you are suggesting outright toxic and antisocial behavior, even justifying it with selfish rationals, then trying to paint me and anyone else who has a problem with your behavior as the bad guys. Nobody is forcing you to pull ahead of a tank. Nobody is forcing you to pull when someone is watching a cutscene. That's where you entire demented argument falls apart. You would have perhaps some shred of a point otherwise, but since you yourselves are intentionally pulling mobs when it's not your role, pulling bosses when you KNOW someone is in a cutscene (even if that someone is a healer), then complaining when someone doesn't support your actions, you don't get to cite TOS and trying to have those people banned, it's actually psychotic that you think that's an appropriate response to people not supporting your own godawful behavior.

Nobody. Forced. You. To. Pull. Early. Get that through your thick skulls because you cannot say "WTF this guy didn't help me when I was fighting the boss while they were in a cutscene or even make sure they were ready and not even AFK, TOS TOS TOS TOS TOS TOS". You are creating a problem, something goes wrong, then you blame people upset by your own godawful actions for the problem you created.

You people tried to moralize me and others over this entire topic, then come and say "actually I just play for myself IDGAF about other people's experiences yet I still expect everyone else to respect mine". You just lost the entire plot. But go ahead and do that, see how that actually works out for you in game. From my experience, outside alliance raids as I said already, it doesn't work out for you too well.

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Not sure where you learned to tank (if at all) but having a group of mobs already aggro'd makes it easier to grab aggro yourself because they are already closing in and therefore less spread out.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Why are you as a tank not making sure to make use of sprint and to stay ahead of dps so that everyone can use their kit to the fullest potential? Anyone can pull even if they are not a tank-its the tank's job to maintain aggro and for the healer to keep whoever is taking damage alive. In any case the progression in tone over the course of this thread is quite insightful.

Again, never underestimate what experienced players are able to pull off single-handedly, alliance raid, dungeon, or otherwise.

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I'm a tank who wants to pull things myself and for that reason I try to be the first one to activate sprint and just generally stay ahead of everyone. It's that easy.

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Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck

I can only hope they start implementing a Prae type approach and make the cutscenes unskippable. People in here act like it is the end of the world. You were new once and I know that some people out there have mental disorders such as OCD where missing part of the fight would cause them stress. That person would need to do the fight again to get the full experience. Because of your impatience, now they have to run a 30-45 minute raid again because you are too selfish to take your 2 minute bio break in your jar during the CS.

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i'm convinced you're a troll at this point but in any case a) pseudoscience b) you take 30-45 minutes to run syrcus tower? and c) ew, that's unhygienic af.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

i'm convinced you're a troll at this point but in any case a) pseudoscience b) you take 30-45 minutes to run syrcus tower? and c) ew, that's unhygienic af.

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You should have a laugh at some of their replies to me ahah. Also, yeah... Syrcus Tower takes like 10-15 mins...

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

OP mentioned about the only insults they see being thrown are one way

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You completely fabricated this statement.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

You should have a laugh at some of their replies to me ahah. Also, yeah... Syrcus Tower takes like 10-15 mins...

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It would take maybe 12-16 minutes tops with unskippable cutscenes too, which is basically nothing.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It would take maybe 12-16 minutes tops with unskippable cutscenes too, which is basically nothing.

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IIRC isn't the syrcus tower boss cutscene just, like. A regular boss cutscene?

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

IIRC isn't the syrcus tower boss cutscene just, like. A regular boss cutscene?

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Pretty much, at least from what I can remember. "Hi, I'm Xande. I'm gonna pose intimidatingly and then we'll get right to it" is the gist of it.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Why are you as a tank not making sure to make use of sprint and to stay ahead of dps so that everyone can use their kit to the fullest potential? Anyone can pull even if they are not a tank-its the tank's job to maintain aggro and for the healer to keep whoever is taking damage alive. In any case the progression in tone over the course of this thread is quite insightful.

Again, never underestimate what experienced players are able to pull off single-handedly, alliance raid, dungeon, or otherwise.

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Oh, yeah, I can easily do that. You know what you can also easily not do?

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Pretty much, at least from what I can remember. "Hi, I'm Xande. I'm gonna pose intimidatingly and then we'll get right to it" is the gist of it.

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Yeah. Like, I normally wait for cutscenes even if it's just a lil boss diddly doo. I'll sit if we're in a 4 man bc typically boss cutscenes *are* still fun for newbies to watch. but there's a level of moral outrage here that's just like .. Dang, touch grass my dude.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Yeah. Like, I normally wait for cutscenes even if it's just a lil boss diddly doo. I'll sit if we're in a 4 man bc typically boss cutscenes *are* still fun for newbies to watch. but there's a level of moral outrage here that's just like .. Dang, touch grass my dude.

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Being considerate to one's fellow human beings is too big of an ask for some people, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

Oh, yeah, I can easily do that. You know what you can also easily not do?

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Yea how dare they make my job as tank easier by helping me group up enemies. I never asked for that and only what I think and want matters, the rest of the party should just be slaves to my will.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Yea how dare they make my job as tank easier by helping me group up enemies. I never asked for that and only what I think and want matters, the rest of the party should just be slaves to my will.

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I don't usually have people like Avey in my group when I tank. I always rush pull 2 groups unless the healer asks me to go slower. Rarely, an Avey-type will try and run ahead of me either way and pull things but will stop when I make it clear I don't want them to do that. Very, very, very rarely is this an issue. I am not a slow tank, nor do I need assistance in pulls. Focus on doing your own job.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

I don't usually have people like Avey in my group when I tank. I always rush pull 2 groups unless the healer asks me to go slower. Rarely, an Avey-type will try and run ahead of me either way and pull things but will stop when I make it clear I don't want them to do that. Very, very, very rarely is this an issue. I am not a slow tank, nor do I need assistance in pulls. Focus on doing your own job.

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If someone pulls ahead of you, what is your course of action?

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

If someone pulls ahead of you, what is your course of action?

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I rush ahead, taunt and or aoe to make sure the mobs don't run amock, then ask said person to not do that again. If they keep doing it then we have a problem. As I already said.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

I rush ahead, taunt and or aoe to make sure the mobs don't run amock, then ask said person to not do that again. If they keep doing it then we have a problem. As I already said.

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Clearly you are making up that problem because you are perfectly capable of just taking aggro back.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Clearly you are making up that problem because you are perfectly capable of just taking aggro back.

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They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

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And if the healer is somehow unable to keep up with a minimum 2 packs per pull, then that demonstrates that they are not utilizing their kit properly and I would rather not carry them past level 50 content nor whoever else decides to enable them. At no point do I have to tolerate a group who is underperforming compared to the trust npcs we have available to us now.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

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Someone thinks they're special.

Reality check: just because you're the tank you're not automatically the ruler of the party.

For cutscenes: who wants to wait will wait and who doesn't won't. Either is a way to play the game and there is no wrong. If SE wants to enforce the rule of waiting mobs wouldn't be attackable until cutscenes are over. Instead SE implemented the port-in-option so ppl that watch the cutscene won't miss out on the fight. Dunno if ppl forgot that it wasn't always possible to enter a fight that already started. SE already implemented a solution for that problem.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

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I see I have touched upon quite the nerve.

What's hilarious here is the absolute comical notion that pulling ahead of a tank could ever remotely correlate to psychopathy . Good lord. Talk about being melodramatic. Your being portrayed as the "bad guy" because only your behavior directly leads to a wipe. A DPS pulling ahead may be annoying to some, however it won't inherently cause any issues providing you know how to tank past level 50. Deliberately turning off Tank Stance, refusing to AoE or whatever other method devised in an effort to kill another player, can. Therefore, who's actually griefing here? You can dress it down in whatever manner you fancy, it doesn't change the end result: You intentionally tried—possibly succeeded—in killing another player for no other reason than your bruised ego. If you're going to go down this route at least acknowledge you're being toxic yourself instead of trying to take some moral high ground. I can appreciate it being annoyed but even by your own logic you're stooping down to the same level you described as "demented" and "anti-social"

As a tank main myself, I couldn't care less if someone pulls ahead of me. It literally changes nothing I do but may benefit them to either keep their abilities rolling, set up stronger hitting skills like the aforementioned Nastrond or condense the mobs so that my AoE will more easily pick them up. If they throw up Arm's Length, then they've actually made my job even easier by using a "cooldown". Ultimately, aggro generation is utterly braindead. Press your AoE buttons once each and every mob is instantly yours no matter what the DPS or healer do.

I should also note I never once mentioned pulling during a cutscene despite your little rant here. I specifically highlighted your mention of letting DPS or Healers die in a dungeon setting. So...

You accuse myself and others of not GAF yet that equally applies to you. If three people in a dungeon want to go fast but you, as the potential tank, don't. Your posts have screamed "I'm the dictator here! We're doing things my way because I'm the tank!" Thus, you're now subjecting three other players to your selfish expectations. Of course, that's okay because tanks dictate the pace and all that nonsense, right? Likewise, you're demanding upwards of 23 other people in a raid to wait around for cutscenes. Now if they do, that's cool. I usually do myself. If they don't though, it's also fine. When you queue into Duty Finder, you get whatever you get. Isn't that what us "speed runners" are always told?

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

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Contrary to popular belief, tanks and even healers are just as replaceable. It usually takes less than five minutes for another tank to pop in should someone leave or be kicked. The DF always prioritizes filling active duties before creating new ones. Unless you're running stuff at odd hours, you'll get a replacement quickly. No role is special.

Although, it's a bit ironic you cop this attitude, which is inherently selfish, yet claim it's everyone else who's toxic.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

They're also perfectly capable of not running ahead when I, the tank, will already be doing that anyway unless the healer wants me to go slower. They can also be given a firm reminder of how much more replaceable they are as dps compared to the tank if they want to make this a problem.

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I am not surprised that you are just trying to flex your self proclaimed power over someone else but it's still pretty sad to see. It seems i was 100% on the mark when I said some people in this thread are just looking for slaves instead of fellow players, you are the perfect example of this. There is no inherent problem with a dps pulling ahead, you are making it one by refusing to do your job. You accuse others of only thinking about themselves but in reality you are just projecting from yourself.

Make no mistake, you are replaceable aswell or not needed at all with a good party.

People don't like this take, but you don't pay their sub. So you don't get to dictate how people should play, ever.

As long as none of them are actively harming or flaming you, it's none of your business how others choose to engage with the game.

If you cannot find peace with that, seek people on discords or other places who share your game etiquette and play everything along them.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

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The hilarious thing is that the people who are most likely to get bottom bothered by someone pulling ahead of them are usually the type to pull small, in which case a tank is not necessary and you can clear the dungeon in approximately equivalent time even without them. I will always kick prima donna tanks without any regret whatsoever cos I ain't got time for that attitude.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

I am not surprised that you are just trying to flex your self proclaimed power over someone else but it's still pretty sad to see. It seems i was 100% on the mark when I said some people in this thread are just looking for slaves instead of fellow players, you are the perfect example of this. There is no inherent problem with a dps pulling ahead, you are making it one by refusing to do your job. You accuse others of only thinking about themselves but in reality you are just projecting from yourself.

Make no mistake, you are replaceable aswell or not needed at all with a good party.

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I'll repeat this until you understand.

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

You don't have to pull

No one is forcing you to pull ahead of the tank. No one is forcing you to pull when someone is in a cutscene. You are making these actions of your own free will. If someone is in a cutscene and you're pulling they are not in the wrong for watching said scene and not helping you until they're done. When you decide to pull while your healer is in a cutscene that is something you did entirely of your own volition whne you could just have well have waited, you don't get to complain, or go cite TOS because they didn't help you when you made the conscious choice to pull without making sure or not caring that your whole party was ready. That's on you. You seem to think you get to dictate the course of a dungeon, and that others should respect you and your time but don't want to return the favor and unironically are moralizing other people like myself over this same issue when it's you that's in need of some perspective.

You keep trying to make justifications I will simply ask who forced you to pull in the first place? No one. Especially when I and most other tanks will 2-group pull and have no need for a dps with a short attention span pulling for me. I will already be doing fast, large pulls so your assistance is not needed.

You don't pay my sub? Cool, you also don't pay my sub. Funny how that works.

It's hilarious how the self-proclaimed "good guys" are unironically the rudest people in this thread.

I watch every cutscene on every character ONCE. I do this partially because I enjoy them (I do not enjoy the replays in the inn room) and partially because I hate hitting the button to skip it when in a dungeon. By watching it once I can use the setting to skip previously viewed cutscenes.

Now that said I really don't get bent if people pull while I am viewing it. They do need to be aware of a couple glitches that are possible if they do that. Glitch 1: If the boss gate closes on the player watching the cutscene it can kill the player through no fault of their own. Glitch 2 (which happened to me recently): When the player then tries to join the fight it is possible for them to get stuck IN the barrier and be unable to enter the fighting arena or back out of the fence. In which case all they can do is lob ranged attacks when a mob is in reach (in my case I was throwing a lance at anything that got in range LOL)

I really don't think either glitch is common but if you pull the boss just be aware that can happen and don't berate the victim of it should it happen. As far as I know there is no good way of preventing either.