Party size reduction a good change?

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

it works for limiting sp parties and things along those lines yes


but they are looking at actual content now and 15 man parties will create horrible balance in that compared to that of a smaller variety
thats the true purpose of this change

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What are you on about? Did 18 man parties cause horrible imbalances in 11? Again, my contention is they need to add alliances so people with LS's that hunt NMs can actually ban together and do the only thing in the game that actually gives us a reason to group up.

Party SP needed to be cut down for sure. Hell, I think it should go to the traditional 6 man group. However, again I say, if they cut off the only reason to party together in a worthwhile aspect then they're cutting off their noses to spite their face - again.

As it is right now, you don't need 16 members to take down these lol'NMs but at least its something.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

What are you on about? Did 18 man parties cause horrible imbalances in 11? Again, my contention is they need to add alliances so people with LS's that hunt NMs can actually ban together and do the only thing in the game that actually gives us a reason to group up.

Party SP needed to be cut down for sure. Hell, I think it should go to the traditional 6 man group. However, again I say, if they cut off the only reason to party together in a worthwhile aspect then they're cutting off their noses to spite their face - again.

As it is right now, you don't need 16 members to take down these lol'NMs but at least its something.

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18 man parties?
or do you mean 6 man parties 3 of them combined into an alliance

you see they can still add this sort of thing, but limiting the BASE party size is what they are doing right now

exactly I mean its not like it would be hard to fill a 15 man party and design content around that, or give us alliances and create 8 man and 16 man content. Either way its going to suck ass telling LS members "no you cant come out and play". Sorry but I care about all my members feelings and want them all to have fun.

This screws over uber big linkshells were numbers --> quality more than anything.
Normal type of linkshells with a good amount of tight friends should have no problem.Wich is my case.
My only beef with this is i feel the only good way they found to make battles "harder" was to limit party size.Lazy developers are lazy.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

18 man parties?
or do you mean 6 man parties 3 of them combined into an alliance

you see they can still add this sort of thing, but limiting the BASE party size is what they are doing right now

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Yes, I did say alliance in what you quoted me and also explained thats my only concern. Making parties 16 man I complained about from day 1. However, unless SE says the word alliance I have been well trained by them to expect the worse.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Yes, I did say alliance in what you quoted me and also explained thats my only concern. Making parties 16 man I complained about from day 1. However, unless SE says the word alliance I have been well trained by them to expect the worse.

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at this point im more inclined to "wait and see" where they go with all this rather then assume anything
remember, these are the start of changes being made, not the end all

so there is going to be more behind it coming up and we shall see it all as it gets added

Well my LS likes to have as many members as wants to participate in a party. it often went past 8. now we will be stuck ; ;

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

at this point im more inclined to "wait and see" where they go with all this rather then assume anything
remember, these are the start of changes being made, not the end all

so there is going to be more behind it coming up and we shall see it all as it gets added

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All I have to say is I hope you're right.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

All I have to say is I hope you're right.

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i dont have to be right or wrong, its already been stated many times in letter from the producers whats going on

we know for a fact these are the starts of changes to the combat system(as stated in the last letter)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i dont have to be right or wrong, its already been stated many times in letter from the producers whats going on

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Oh? Maybe you could point out to the rest of us were it says you will be able to make alliances or the equivalent?