Bard nerf is good

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

That's probably because the EN forums never name BRD specifically. There have been several threads calling out Silence as OP though.

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You can cleanse it...

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Originally Posted by Ransu

You can cleanse it...

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I didn't say it couldn't be. Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension.

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

That's probably because the EN forums never name BRD specifically. There have been several threads calling out Silence as OP though.

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Silence being considered OP is due to a UX failure--ie the game gives very poor feedback for the player being silenced. Getting stunned or bound or heavied is very obvious, as it affects the way your camera behaves on movement input. Silence, allowing normal movement, creates a split second wherein you believe your original plan of action is still valid, so you continue playing aggressively, or you continue to play as if you had defenaive options in your back pocket.

It takes a glance at your hotbars and/or (de)buff bar to realize what's happening to you, by which time it's often too late to react. That is, unless...you anticipate and respect the enemy's offensive options, and don't play as if the BRD won't target you.

People forget that BRDs also play against other BRDs, and we have no problem understanding and respecting the silence.

I don't think people continue to play aggressively while silenced since it blocks all action except movement and purify. I think the problem is more about the fact that you see people take a stun or heavy and they cleanse but then catch a silence. Personally, I think the timers on all the CC effects need to be looked at.

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Originally Posted by Myrha_Lhlalheva

Silence being considered OP is due to a UX failure--ie the game gives very poor feedback for the player being silenced. Getting stunned or bound or heavied is very obvious, as it affects the way your camera behaves on movement input. Silence, allowing normal movement, creates a split second wherein you believe your original plan of action is still valid, so you continue playing aggressively, or you continue to play as if you had defenaive options in your back pocket.

It takes a glance at your hotbars and/or (de)buff bar to realize what's happening to you, by which time it's often too late to react. That is, unless...you anticipate and respect the enemy's offensive options, and don't play as if the BRD won't target you.

People forget that BRDs also play against other BRDs, and we have no problem understanding and respecting the silence.

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Yep, that’s why good players play LoS against good bards.

1. To not get hit by bard
2. Pull bard out of position if they want to kill you, leaving them open for a counterplay

Too bad devs don’t realize this.

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

That's probably because the EN forums never name BRD specifically. There have been several threads calling out Silence as OP though.

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hmm i wonder if that means RDM will be on the chopping block next

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Originally Posted by RyanCousland

hmm i wonder if that means RDM will be on the chopping block next

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Probably, which is sad because they are generally underwhelming at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

I don't think people continue to play aggressively while silenced since it blocks all action except movement and purify. I think the problem is more about the fact that you see people take a stun or heavy and they cleanse but then catch a silence. Personally, I think the timers on all the CC effects need to be looked at.

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By play aggressively I mean continuing to walk forward. And if your Purify is down + your resilience window is over and you still press forward...that's exactly the kind of button disrespect I'm talking about. If someone gets silenced and dies in that situation, they 100% deserved it.

Hold w game play is kind of rare. That's why Leon became such a meme for it.

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

Hold w game play is kind of rare. That's why Leon became such a meme for it.

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LOL you know what i mean. Silence gives poor instant feedback, so it takes longer to react to.