I'm deeply troubled

Honestly I don't even think the open thigh area is all that suggestive, not sure why everyone is arguing that point...It isn't like you could see anything. It just looked aesthetically pleasing. I'm sad to see it go. But probably it just looked weird from different angles maybe? Who knows. I'd be sad if I were the original artist though. :/

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo

Let your imagination go wild for a moment and undress that guy on the left.

I don't know about you, but I'm currently freaked out by the nondescript blob of flesh existing where his junk should be. If they made that design work on the right, they'd either have to expose the dude's junk (because you can look at angles other than what exist on the art on the left), or include the underwear model on this gear. Because one is impossible and the other is silly, they very reasonably opted to have normal pants.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo

This deconstruction isn't even accurate though. You went and cut off a good inch of his outer thigh.

And that's not even relevant to my main point. You cut the entire crotch out of a 3d model's pants, then cover it up with a little flap from what is technically a different piece of gear.
There's 3 possibilities:
- Show the dong for all to see
- include underwear
- don't cut the crotch out of the pants.

Only one of those solutions seems reasonable to me.

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Uh.. original concept has underwear so.. what is the issue?
https://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/rang...hSrgMGk/32.jpg

What I really want to know, though is why this outfit was chosen in the first place if it couldn't be made as-is for whatever reason. There was no community voting on the sets, all winners were chosen by SE reps, so there's really no excuse to pick something that they can't or won't render faithfully to the original design.

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Originally Posted by Lukha

What I really want to know, though is why this outfit was chosen in the first place if it couldn't be made as-is for whatever reason. There was no community voting on the sets, all winners were chosen by SE reps, so there's really no excuse to pick something that they can't or won't render faithfully to the original design.

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Ooo! Reading this made me go back to check their comment on the winning entry on the lodestone:

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We received a wider variety of designs in this category of the gear design contest when compared to the Tank edition. This lead to quite a bit of trouble when it came to selecting a grand prize winner, but in the end, we chose this design based on the fact that it was something we’d never done before. The design will really force the dev. team to answer questions about how they would replicate aspects of this design into the game. It seems the team took up this challenge, and the character designers and animation designers are already racking their brains trying to think how to replicate the cloak and flames. We’re expecting to feature a ranged magic DPS outfit that has never existed before, so please look forward to it!

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Suppressing my inclination to break this comment down sentence-by-sentence and make snide remarks, I will say that it's almost like the outfit was chosen just to experiment some things; faithfulness to the original be damned.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

Uh.. original concept has underwear so.. what is the issue?
https://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/rang...hSrgMGk/32.jpg

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Ahh... I'll have to offer my apologies, it seems I wasn't playing with a full deck. I'm not sure how I never noticed that angle from the back without the arm cape.

I can still see them going "oh, but if they wear a shirt not from this set, what's covering the groin?" but it seems a bit more unreasonable now.

One problem I can immediately dream up is that if they make the set dyable under the original concept art and include the bottom "half" of the top as part of the leggings, then the dying situation might be as awkward as anemos monk gear. Still, I think I'm more on the "they didn't have to do that" side of things.

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Ahh... I'll have to offer my apologies, it seems I wasn't playing with a full deck. I'm not sure how I never noticed that angle from the back without the arm cape.

I can still see them going "oh, but if they wear a shirt not from this set, what's covering the groin?" but it seems a bit more unreasonable now.

One problem I can immediately dream up is that if they make the set dyable under the original concept art and include the bottom "half" of the top as part of the leggings, then the dying situation might be as awkward as anemos monk gear. Still, I think I'm more on the "they didn't have to do that" side of things.

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The thing is, we already have the pants concept in the game for males, the Shisui set. There's really no excuse for them to have changed it besides their own personal preference.

Front:
http://i.imgur.com/rnzdq82.png

Back:https://app.eriones.com/img/ss/7d797...1510207206.jpg

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Suppressing my inclination to break this comment down sentence-by-sentence and make snide remarks, I will say that it's almost like the outfit was chosen just to experiment some things; faithfulness to the original be damned.

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I mean, hasn't that been stated before regarding these contest winner designs? I'm not sure when people expect exact implementation into the game.

Regarding all the people decrying SE for not implementing the pants as per the design due to male sexualization.... do you not remember the Shisui set exists. I'm sure the devs have their reasons. I swear, this community complains more and more every year....

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I'm sure the devs have their reasons. I swear, this community complains more and more every year....

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Not to be a smart ass, but they keep giving us reasons to.

Companies -efficient ones at least- don't want to waste their employees' time at any level, so there was certainly a reason behind this. It's almost impossible for things to get pushed to production because something happened by chance and everyone rolled with it.

SE explains pretty much nothing about what they do or why they do it. Why were the pants changed? It's not like we don't have exact copies of the bland generic pair shown in the preview in abundance already. The Shisui set proves they can do that style. I was willing to let that awesome hood go if the bottom half remained mostly unchanged at least, but...

I'm staying my pitchfork based on what the female design is. If they have the holes and we don't then it's pretty obvious someone thought that man legs were icky and they needed to cover them... again. I'm tired of that more than I'm dead set on having a 1-1 adaptation of the original design.

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I'm staying my pitchfork based on what the female design is. If they have the holes and we don't then it's pretty obvious someone thought that man legs were icky and they needed to cover them... again. I'm tired of that more than I'm dead set on having a 1-1 adaptation of the original design.

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This. I'm pretty upset about the change, but what the female set looks like is going to make all the difference between 'annoyed' and 'livid' at this point.

I don't know why I bother getting my hopes up over pants designs anymore, really. Every time I think we're getting something interesting, they pull this sort of bait and switch on us and I just end up angry and disappointed.

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I'm sure the devs have their reasons. I swear, this community complains more and more every year....

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And those reasons are getting more and more transparent every single time something like this happens - which is practically every patch these days. We're not complaining about nothing, here; there's a long-standing pattern of poor quality when it comes to the male side designs.

I dont care for the look of this gear and i dont get how its "mage"gear. thats why we have the glamour wardrobe. tho i would like the plague doctors set to be dyable