Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

My inner whm and gnb are upset.

Queue leveling roulette, get Doma Castle. Nifty! One of my more favorite SB dungeons. I then proceed to check the tank and realize I was in for one hell of a ride.

Almost entirely base shire gear, save for the body and weapon. Everything else is either pankratist gear or a ruby tide ring. Lovely. Maybe they realized they're undergeared and will take things slowly, which I really don't mind. We have a nin and dnc in the party, so no real heavy-hitters, which is also fine. I don't mind leisurely strolls through a castle that's on fire around me. This is fine.

Does the tank take things slowly? NOPE.

First pull is a mass pull and their hp proceeds to drop like a rock until they realize 'oh hey, I have cooldowns, I should probably pop them now.' My mp dips into 50%, which is something I expected, but once the stopgate before the golem comes down, I realized something else was amiss. The nin in our party wasn't using Doton. Or Katon. Odd. At least they were using Hellfrog but no DB/HM wombo combos. The dnc was aoe'ing their hearts out, but still that first trash pack should have told me to abandon there and then. But no, I'm a glutton for punishment.

Golem and 3 soldier pull the tank and nin decide mob aoes are good to stand in, along with spinning the golem like he was a Twister spinner. My mp starts to starve quite a bit trying to keep the party up and keep dpsing. We make it, but then the tank makes a mad dash for the airship mobs. Still no aoe's from the nin save for Hellfrog. We down those and even though my mp should've told me to just abandon now, I still am a glutton for punishment.

First boss both the tank and nin eat aoes, and occasionally the dnc because sometimes no one pays attention to the adds that waltz on through. I've been there once...that explosion to the face tends to be a refreshing wake-up call.

First boss went down and took a bit longer than I had expected. The tank runs off for the next pull the second the stopgate goes down, and STILL both the nin and tank feel that mob aoes are part of your balanced f*cking breakfast. At least they only pulled the doggos and mecha mob. Once those went down, our tank decided to try the big boy pull. Alright. I at least had my cooldowns at the ready. He'd better have his cooldowns ready too.

We get the first set and he brings them over to the magitek reaper set, and I'm waiting for him to use Super. Super, any time now, my mp's dipping below 30% bro. On a side note, I hate that Lucid is on a shorter restore cooldown, but love that it's on a shorter recast cooldown. Assize, Tetra, Divine, Cure II, Regen, Medica II, Holy...WHERE IS YOUR SUPER BRO? WHY ARE YOU TWO STILL EATING AOES? MY BENEDICITION IS WAITING TO GIVE YOU A F*CKING HUG.

On another side note: Lilies should be an independent cooldown and not a gcd, like a 3 second cooldown. That may actually save tanks like these from their own stupidity. Then again, all the cure potency in the world probably would not save tanks that decide that mob aoes are the best thing since sliced bread.

Did the tank ever use Superbolide? NOPE. He dies from eating aoe's, I get him up, but the DNC now had aggro. They die after I try to salvage the situation, but then the mobs decide that my fairy glamour was offensive. I eat dirt, followed by the rest of the party. We respawn and I gave the tank a heads up that they do not have the gear to do that sort of pull. We get back and down the stragglers before getting to the second boss.

15 seconds into the second boss, SUDDENLY SUPERBOLIDE.

YOU F*CKER. WHERE WAS THAT EARLIER?! My sanity with this tank and nin was at the breaking point, and during the entirety of the second boss the nin and tank kept eating aoes, along with the nin deciding they wanted to be a bouncy ball with the mine lines that were laid down. It was at this point I decided that, once this boss was down, I was done.

Second boss down, I told them I had to leave, and ate the penalty.

I'm sure that Superbolide was meant to spite you.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

I'm sure that Superbolide was meant to spite you.

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I bet he was waiting for Benediction to get used first.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

kugane

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as AST and SCH, im not bothered, but as WHM, I hated leveling dungeons. They never gave me weapon upgrades, and it makes such a huge difference in healing output, much less WHMs lack of oGCDs for emergencies. I remember running a friend of mine through there as WHM, and after seeing his HP drop like a fly, i checked and saw shire gear. (The whole party is friends) we abandoned, and I came back as AST. I wasnt in the mood to play WHM and wonder if every pull will have unlucky crits, or too many AoEs targetting me, or anything else nasty would wipe the party. Just not worth the stress.
the new lily system helps with AoE dodging, but WHMs lack of oGCDs really hurts them. (even more now in the 30-49 range, for different reasons)

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

as AST and SCH, im not bothered, but as WHM, I hated leveling dungeons. They never gave me weapon upgrades, and it makes such a huge difference in healing output, much less WHMs lack of oGCDs for emergencies. I remember running a friend of mine through there as WHM, and after seeing his HP drop like a fly, i checked and saw shire gear. (The whole party is friends) we abandoned, and I came back as AST. I wasnt in the mood to play WHM and wonder if every pull will have unlucky crits, or too many AoEs targetting me, or anything else nasty would wipe the party. Just not worth the stress.
the new lily system helps with AoE dodging, but WHMs lack of oGCDs really hurts them. (even more now in the 30-49 range, for different reasons)

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I don't know, it seems like lately whenever they see a SCH or AST icon in my parties when I'm healing, the tank is actually smart. Whenever they see my cane, all sense just goes out the window for the tanks I get.

BENEDICTION WILL SAVE ME, they probably go. All the cure potency in the world just can't save some of the tanks I've had. Especially some of these undergeared GNB tanks that forget they have an invuln.

Well, that was a Copied Factory for the records(at least my records...).

Party was WAR(me), WHM, AST, 3 SAM, DNC, and RDM. Hobbes did a number on everyone in my party(most of them couldn't stay alive for very long, and 3 of them were at least new to it - or they don't skip already viewed scenes). But from the 70% remaining point on, I was practically alone on the platform for the majority of that fight.Got a few heals here and there from alliance B, but it was mostly Storm's Path and Equilibrium keeping me alive. Similarly happened on 9S(was MT here...), but when I was tanking one of the Goliath tanks along with 9S. Good thing Holmgang was able to activate in time for one of the lasers...otherwise I would have ended up dead.

Thank you to the healer from B that gave me those heals in Hobbes(and whenever else you may have)

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Well, that was a Copied Factory for the records(at least my records...).

Party was WAR(me), WHM, AST, 3 SAM, DNC, and RDM. Hobbes did a number on everyone in my party(most of them couldn't stay alive for very long, and 3 of them were at least new to it - or they don't skip already viewed scenes). But from the 70% remaining point on, I was practically alone on the platform for the majority of that fight.Got a few heals here and there from alliance B, but it was mostly Storm's Path and Equilibrium keeping me alive. Similarly happened on 9S(was MT here...), but when I was tanking one of the Goliath tanks along with 9S. Good thing Holmgang was able to activate in time for one of the lasers...otherwise I would have ended up dead.

Thank you to the healer from B that gave me those heals in Hobbes(and whenever else you may have)

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Come to think of it, I did notice that there was a party in my last CF run (that wasn't mine) that was down to the Tank, though I think that Tank as a DRK

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Come to think of it, I did notice that there was a party in my last CF run (that wasn't mine) that was down to the Tank, though I think that Tank as a DRK

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My run was right before posting that.

French dps in anamnesis anyder dies at second boss, takes their sweet time to run from the beginning of the dungeon.
I pull one small group (before the mobs that spawn more mobs from crystals) since we only have 1 dps now, mid-pull the dps arrives, runs past, pulls the next group. When all the extra mobs spawn and they are at half health, the same dps again runs off and, again, pulls the next group.
Just.. why?

I can do big pulls and I was doing them before, but maybe... actually show up for the pull? Hit things till they are dead?
And they were doing the same before the 2nd boss. When mobs were at 1/3-1/4 health they stopped dpsing, ran to the wall and just stood there.

Also... what's wrong with people who queue into Shinryu Ex via df without knowing strat?
ARR primals I can understand (most of the time we clear after some explanations), but that?

Starting to see a rise in "its easy content" flying around lately.

A couple of weeks ago, I joined a roulette and got The Ghimlyt Dark. The MOMENT the dungeon ques up, the healer shouts "speed run letttttttttsssss goooooooo". Normally I'm fine with this, but it is pretty clear someone is new (it's the tank!). So, the barrier goes down and the healer SPRINTS off towards the mobs quicker than the toilet paper aisle going empty at the local supermarket.

The tank clearly does not know what is going on and decides that the best step is to stick to one mob at a time just to be safe; ok, cool, the other DPS and I don't have a problem with this. Sure, a few extra minutes, I can live with that. This healer on the other hand, nope! Brought the next wave of mobs right to the tank!

I'm not an advocator for "You pull it, you tank it" (I use to be, but honestly whatever at this point; you want more then I'LL PULL MORE WHOOO!). However, I can clearly see the tank does not appreciate it as they did not pick up the extra mobs. Eventually, the healer replies, "Usually the tanks pull to the end! Let's go!" and my favorite "this is easy content!"

Perhaps it is easy content, but ultimately a team member was new and did not see it that way. At this point, I'm getting a bit annoyed. All it would have taken in the beginning was, "Do you mind pulling big?" If the tank said no, then okay. If they got an attitude, ok (you probably won't see them again anyway!). But, nope. No communication, just "this is easy content." I guess the final straw for me was when the healer RESCUED the tank into more mobs. I'm just...why?

I finally pipe up and say that although the content is "easy", you should not expect everyone to see it that way, and ultimately, you work with what you got and you make the best of it.

I will give credit where credit is due: No one wiped, and the healer apologized later and the tank did really well for their first run. Other DPS, you were awesome as well.

However,that's not the end of the story. The next following week I que up Crystal Tower Roulette (Alliance Roulette), and of course...I get Sycus Tower...again (is it like 98% Sycrus Tower?). We load up, everyone RACES OFF LIKE THEIR LIVES DEPENDED ON IT, and the new people get left behind.

Long story short, one tank does not wait at all for anyone and pulls continuously, ultimately "locking out" (not really anymore since they got rid of that and you can just pop in) more than half the alliance raids. Someone pipes up and states, "would be nice if you waited on people"; tank replies "its old content so what". Other people talk about "shut up and get your clear" "its easy" "lol waiting in so-and-so raid" and your typical fun Moogle meme.

Once again, credit where credit is due: Party did great and no wipes.

Still, I'm honestly tired of Alliance Roulette as 1) it is almost always a CT raid and 2) the complete disregard to mechanics and other players because "old content is old". Just...wait a few seconds I suppose. I understand that it is quite commomplace to see these kind of events take place (especially in older raids), but I'm honestly tired of seeing complete clusterducks because nobody is paying attention to mechanics or that people are in such a hurry that players end up getting locked out and rejoining, only to rejoin with the wrong alliance and wrong team (looking at you Atomos). Anyway, that's enough of my ranting. I'm sure I'll be back with more, have a good night!

Reminds me of this one run in Labyrinth someone pulled Thanatos while the entirety of alliance A wasn't even there yet. Or the classic one...the Atomos -- either everyone is on platform or no one is, and more than a few times where we wiped (yes, wiped) because half the raid is sent to alliance A thanks to SOMEONE pulling before time and locking everyone out.

I just love the irony that, in their haste, those who want to speed up runs actually make them last longer.

Gotta go slowster.

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Originally Posted by Averax

When i tell people i want to wall to wall all of the pulls in Anamesis Anyder. I m e a n i t.

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I'm sure you do. Pretty sure you're not boss of the world, though. 3 other people mean things too.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I'm sure you do. Pretty sure you're not boss of the world, though. 3 other people mean things too.

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That is true, but the three other people should at the very least be open to try it. Especially if your healer is telling you to go for it. This form of encouragement is rare and we should cherish it when it happens. I do not see it as bossy more so as a healer having confidence in their own ability and that confidence in turn could also give the other players in the group the confidence to step put from their comfort zone.

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

Still, I'm honestly tired of Alliance Roulette as 1) it is almost always a CT raid and 2) the complete disregard to mechanics and other players because "old content is old". Just...wait a few seconds I suppose.

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Imo seal the Boss room till enough ppl are there, Its just sad new ppl cant watch shi# without being left in the dirt, the teleport only made it worse as rushers mostly get their way by force - unless you get those lovely wipes when everyone is on the wrong spot...

Actually got another one as this took place just last night!

Loaded up with a friend of mine from the FC to do a 50/60/70 roulette. We decided to do a competition with another group from the FC to see which party would clear their roulette first; we end up getting Sohm Al (Hard) while they get Snowcloak (psssh).

The dungeon--although my favorite because of the rocking music--was rather uneventful. However, I did notice that mobs were taking a lot longer to kill than usual. It was then I noticed the BLM's rotation: Blizzard III, Blizzard III, Blizzard III, Thunder II, Thunder II, Fire III, Blizzard III, Blizzard III, Blizzard III....AGHHHHH!!!!

The BLM was not new; had several classes at lv80 and was wearing Deepshadow gear on all sides. Still, didn't want to make assumptions because you know what they say about assumptions. It makes an arse out of my cat.

I explain the rotation a little bit only to met with zero response and then I hear the frustration from my healer friend: The BLM is standing in everything.....no Ley Lines as excuse either. Just. Standing. Still. Casting Blizzard.

......OK!

As the run continues, and the mobs die ever so slowly (like the soul being sucked out of body), the BLM eventually dies to a trash mob. Now this is where things get REAL interesting. The BLM teleports back to start and sprints back to our location. And boy DO I MEAN SPRINT. Them legs were moving faster than I have ever seen in the many years I've played this game (took literally less than a couple of seconds to catch up to us). I was...dumbfounded. I can't
even explain how fast those dang feet were moving.

I'm honestly wondering what the hell I just saw and needless to say, I spent the rest of the dungeon staring at the BLM's feet waiting to see if there was some kind of explanation to what just transpired.

Was it a server tick? Bot? Hack? Something in the water I just drank? Had to poop super bad? No idea.

The rest of the run continues as normal: Blizzard III, Blizzard III, Blizzard III, Thunder II, Thunder II, Fire III, Blizzard III, Blizzard III, Blizzard III....and the little bird on my shoulder clarified what I had already discovered. My healer friend...beat the BLM in damage output.

I think at that point I've seen everything and decided at the point I needed to go to bed, because goodness gracious I think I was going crazy.

EDIT: We ended up winning the competition by the way! The other party got stuck on the Second boss on Snowcloak because someone kept killing the Spriggans.

Kuroka - "Imo seal the Boss room till enough ppl are there, Its just sad new ppl cant watch shi# without being left in the dirt, the teleport only made it worse as rushers mostly get their way by force - unless you get those lovely wipes when everyone is on the wrong spot..."


Yeah. I totally agree with you. It happened to me a lot when I was new as well. The phrase "running around like a headless chicken" is an understatement to how I felt.

I've heard in the past that "well, I got use to it, so should they," but shouldn't that be an incentive NOT to do that to other players? Still hilarious when the wipe happens and being shout in chat "LOL WHY WE WIPE?!"

Well, duh....

This was a sad day. Did my MS roulette and had both tanks quit on the spot (reiterating the demand that players be made to stay for at least 15 minutes made in a previous post), had healers who couldn't even handle healing single mobs, got Chrystalis for Trial roulette and the 3X Limit Break was used... by the Off Tank. Then just now, had a 50-70 roulette in Xelphatol where we had a new healer and the Ninja in our party left them behind. So yeah, can't wait to move on from this day.

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Originally Posted by Novaura

This was a sad day. Did my MS roulette and had both tanks quit on the spot (reiterating the demand that players be made to stay for at least 15 minutes made in a previous post), had healers who couldn't even handle healing single mobs, got Chrystalis for Trial roulette and the 3X Limit Break was used... by the Off Tank. Then just now, had a 50-70 roulette in Xelphatol where we had a new healer and the Ninja in our party left them behind. So yeah, can't wait to move on from this day.

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Having those two tanks stay for 15 min probably would not have helped anyone. I know if I was forced to stay in a dungeon for 15 min I would just force dc for 15. Which would make finding a new tank even harder cause then the group would have to wait to remove the player.

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

I've heard in the past that "well, I got use to it, so should they," but shouldn't that be an incentive NOT to do that to other players? Still hilarious when the wipe happens and being shout in chat "LOL WHY WE WIPE?!"

Well, duh....

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Ye, gettin shouted at for stuff you could not do anyting against is nice >_>

I also hate when you explain basics and ppl rather wipe 2x then let you explain.
(if ppl wanna learn the hard way sure, but im talking about ppl not wanting to wait as they know/dont care)

A WHM that spams Holy for two mobs...

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

A WHM that spams Holy for two mobs...

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Preferable to not DPSing at all.

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

A WHM that spams Holy for two mobs...

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The scary part of this story is the tank that only pulls two mobs

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Originally Posted by Awha

Having those two tanks stay for 15 min probably would not have helped anyone. I know if I was forced to stay in a dungeon for 15 min I would just force dc for 15. Which would make finding a new tank even harder cause then the group would have to wait to remove the player.

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this is basicly my arguement against my own thought on that matter. even if you disable disconnecting all someone has to do to dc is unplug their internet.

forcing people to stay 15 minutes is one thing. but a suggestion is if they do not stay at least 5 minutes or a wipe, then they should eat more than a 30 min penalty. if you're gonna rage quit at the start and waste an entire groups time like that you should be forced to eat a longer penalty box.

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

Starting to see a rise in "its easy content" flying around lately.


Still, I'm honestly tired of Alliance Roulette as 1) it is almost always a CT raid and 2) the complete disregard to mechanics and other players because "old content is old". Just...wait a few seconds I suppose. I understand that it is quite commomplace to see these kind of events take place (especially in older raids), but I'm honestly tired of seeing complete clusterducks because nobody is paying attention to mechanics or that people are in such a hurry that players end up getting locked out and rejoining, only to rejoin with the wrong alliance and wrong team (looking at you Atomos). Anyway, that's enough of my ranting. I'm sure I'll be back with more, have a good night!

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Yeah, people don't care, so I've noticed. In CT raids I just zoom zoom to keep up with everything, and when the scenes come up I'll just watch them. I'm DPS though, so I'm sure they can manage without me. It's bad though, shouldn't be that way. If I had a choice I'd wait for new players but... 'majority rules' or whatever, so I'm told.

I've had a few dungeons run with 'ez' type mindsets, I always point out it's my first run if I'm new, or if I don't know mechanics, but some groups don't care it's 150mph to the end boss and then I'm like "Mechanics?" and it's usually "LOL, this is ARR content, who cares just hit the thing until it dies cos mechanics mean naff all here."

Okay, fair enough, but still... >_>

First run though Kugane Castle and I decided to heal...and i had a blast. I healed my way along with a JoJo reference of a tank and kept everybody alive so much that the only casually was near the very end of Yojimbo. Even got 2 comms out of it!

10/10 would prolly heal again

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

A WHM that spams Holy for two mobs...

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It's only a 20 potency loss. Definitely nothing worth getting worked up about imo especially for a PUG. If it was under lvl 72 it'd be a dps gain over single target so they might have sticked to old habits.

If you were that new healer I just had in trial roulette, I hope that you don't get discouraged by those d-bags who kicked you. They were way out of line.

For everyone not in the loop-
I got Wreath of Snakes normal in roulette and one of the healers spoke up that it was their first time in there; had at least one other person pipe up that they were new as well. One of the tanks pulled before anyone could give an explanation or anything so we just went for it. Positions on the targeted AoE drops were all over the place and gave me the impression that there were way more new people than who spoke up. We still made it to the second phase and most people worked out the knockbacks and AoEs alright. Things went sideways when the second set of adds that focus that beam on two players happened at the same time as the stack marker and we lost half the raid.

The new healer managed to survive but the other one went down. They were healing like crazy trying to top off everyone that was still alive while those that went down started calling for healer LB3. I did so as well, even taking the time to type out her name but she must have been tunneling too hard to notice. She kept everyone that was left alive and finally raised the other healer who popped LB3 and got everyone else up. Then promptly ate another AOE and died again. Before the new healer managed get the other guy up (again) that same combo of mechanics happened and took out most of the rest of the raid, heals included. We wiped.

It sucks, but it happens. What really sucked was what took place afterwards.

Someone, my money was on the tank (same one who pulled), initiated a votekick of the new healer for being AFK. I called them out on it and was met with, "he wasn't even rezzing" which was BS because otherwise the other healer would have never gotten up. She just didn't do it fast enough to satisfy the person trying to kick her. Apparently enough people were salty about it because the kick went through, which is really infuriating if you realize these were the same people who failed so spectacularly at handling two fairly simple mechanics that they're the ones who caused the need for the LB3 in the first place. Her delayed raise wasn't even what resulted in the wipe!

I called them on their BS move, because f*ck people like that who would rather kick new players than wait for someone to explain the fight to them, and they kicked me as well. I suppose the truth hurts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Healer in Wreath of Snakes pug whose name starts with "R", you were not the cause of that debacle. That was a result of the majority of the group failing on mechanics and you were targeted as a scapegoat. You want to work on your situational awareness in those sort of instances, but don't let horrible people get you down. I hope you get your clear.

Hard to find time to raise when 3x are dead and mechanics swinging all over the place.

Summoner with 85-90% hp on final boss of bardam casting physick several times.

Slowly tilts head

Doing Xephaltol and the tank was loosing his mind because the new player a SAM, wasn’t doing most of the mechanics. We didn’t wipe the SAM died a lot and it was still a breeze run but the Tank was being super annoying yelling in chat and calling the poor Catboi names.

Dungeons mechanics are VERY RARELY fatal. If your not doing Aurum Vale or Darkhold don’t worry you can do most if not all of the basically blind as any class

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Originally Posted by Averax

The scary part of this story is the tank that only pulls two mobs

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The fact that tank self healing is trash and healers do too much damage compared, you better believe to only pull 2 mobs (with most DF dps not great at dps). No trust

Verse BiS not enough bro

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Originally Posted by KaleShibata

this is basicly my arguement against my own thought on that matter. even if you disable disconnecting all someone has to do to dc is unplug their internet.

forcing people to stay 15 minutes is one thing. but a suggestion is if they do not stay at least 5 minutes or a wipe, then they should eat more than a 30 min penalty. if you're gonna rage quit at the start and waste an entire groups time like that you should be forced to eat a longer penalty box.

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I get ya, but even the 5 min thing is hard to enforce. 5 min lockout, just afk for 5 min. It is said but people do not owe their time to others forcing people to stay in content they do not want to do will other force people to be hostile

It's hilarious to me that most of the complaints in this thread are about wasting people's time and I get it, people have limited time to play and want to maximize it. But if anyone was really concerned with their time being wasted they wouldn't be playing video games especially an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Eiketsu

It's hilarious to me that most of the complaints in this thread are about wasting people's time and I get it, people have limited time to play and want to maximize it. But if anyone was really concerned with their time being wasted they wouldn't be playing video games especially an MMO.

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The complaints come from people who's time was wasted because of incompetence of basic skills. Tanks not tanking, healers not healing, DPS not using their AoE skills, insults being tossed around, acting like children, etc.; no one goes into a dungeon expecting to be done in 5 minutes, but there is an expectancy that you have general knowledge of your class out of respect for the other players as well a human decency towards your other teammates; not being being told "LOL U SUCK".

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Originally Posted by Rymm

The new healer managed to survive but the other one went down. They were healing like crazy trying to top off everyone that was still alive while those that went down started calling for healer LB3. I did so as well, even taking the time to type out her name but she must have been tunneling too hard to notice. She kept everyone that was left alive and finally raised the other healer who popped LB3 and got everyone else up. Then promptly ate another AOE and died again. Before the new healer managed get the other guy up (again) that same combo of mechanics happened and took out most of the rest of the raid, heals included. We wiped.

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The limit break doesn't act immediately once you push the button. It's possible for people to take damage and die before the full heal. It's also possible for the healer to die before anybody gets raised and healed. Getting four people back on their feet isn't much of a gain over a regular raise when two or three others drop. Making sure the survivors will continue to survive was the right move, regardless of how anxious the people who caused the coming wipe are feeling.

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Originally Posted by Pells

The limit break doesn't act immediately once you push the button. It's possible for people to take damage and die before the full heal. It's also possible for the healer to die before anybody gets raised and healed.

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OR on larger fights ppl might be out of range for it, which is really fun lol

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Originally Posted by Rymm

I called them on their BS move, because f*ck people like that who would rather kick new players than wait for someone to explain the fight

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Yes, smt i just pull too if i know its nothing too hard or if the new tank is too shy, but that ppl trigger me all the time, even more when youre literally already explaining and they just pull. Trigger happy goons or DNC that use their buff as soon as they reach the boss area are so annoying >_>

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

OR on larger fights ppl might be out of range for it, which is really fun lol



Yes, smt i just pull too if i know its nothing too hard or if the new tank is too shy, but that ppl trigger me all the time, even more when youre literally already explaining and they just pull. Trigger happy goons or DNC that use their buff as soon as they reach the boss area are so annoying >_>

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As someone leveling a DNC atm, which buff are you talking about, the Standard Finsih one?

Yes the longer dance, ik it lasts some time but still, if there 2 or 5 ppl watching CS and there might be some explaining, cant you wait a sec? I get goons wanna at least try to keep their buff up, but that... lol