Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

It has been said many times how exactly it can affect people, you just need to read through the thread before saying that. Also, as you said, many MMOs (if not all) have this uncapped dungeon things, there are already too many MMOs that offers that and all of them are boring after a short while and content gets old fast. This game doesn't need new content that gets old a week after release.

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and many times it has been said and every time it is wrong, the only way this effects anyone is if they let it effect them, rank 25 gear means shit in this game rank 25 content also means shit in this game, people are just trying to force their elitist attitude on others because they think they know what is best for this game and that's to cater to every single request they make.

And really I'm sorry but it doesn't matter any rank 25 content is going to get old in a week regardless of level cap. it takes only a few days to out level that content anyways so people are all in an uproar for nothing at all. If anything folks should be complaining about only getting 1 rank 50 dungeon.

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Originally Posted by normalforce

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with you, I just wanted to point out that by saying people should just except the currently proposed dungeon system, you are, in fact, forcing a game play style on others.

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what the game play style that 95% of the MMOs out there use? Hell I cant think of one game that has level restrictions on entering a dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

and many times it has been said and every time it is wrong, the only way this effects anyone is if they let it effect them, rank 25 gear means shit in this game rank 25 content also means shit in this game, people are just trying to force their elitist attitude on others because they think they know what is best for this game and that's to cater to every single request they make.

And really I'm sorry but it doesn't matter any rank 25 content is going to get old in a week regardless of level cap. it takes only a few days to out level that content anyways so people are all in an uproar for nothing at all. If anything folks should be complaining about only getting 1 rank 50 dungeon.

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IF they dont allow it to be easymoded, they can put long lasting drops in the rank 30 dungeon, or they can put currency or some other form of content you slowly build up to exchange later. They could also put slotted materia gear in there. they could put gear that crafters can upgrade as you level.

But putting any type of rewards that may last, be upgradeable, or build up only makes sense if the dungeon isnt easy.
so yeah, not capping the dungeon has a pretty large effect on the content, and its replayability. Its the difference between making real content for all levels of play and making the game endgame heavy.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

and many times it has been said and every time it is wrong, the only way this effects anyone is if they let it effect them, rank 25 gear means shit in this game rank 25 content also means shit in this game, people are just trying to force their elitist attitude on others because they think they know what is best for this game and that's to cater to every single request they make.

And really I'm sorry but it doesn't matter any rank 25 content is going to get old in a week regardless of level cap. it takes only a few days to out level that content anyways so people are all in an uproar for nothing at all. If anything folks should be complaining about only getting 1 rank 50 dungeon.

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Problem is, in their previous MMO, SE made certain gear that at level 7 of 75 possible, was best in slot. So, it does matter. The gear in the dungeon may be best in slot for certain builds, etc, and therefore should be difficult to achieve.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

Not sure why so many people are in an uproar concerning this, most games do not level cap dungeons. If people want to have high levels run them through then so be it, it does not effect you in any way whatsoever. People need to get over themselves and stop trying to force their game play style on others.

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I covered that point right here:

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Yes. Important point to take away here is that in WoW, there is essentially a pseudo-level cap since most of the raid loot is bound to your character, so you have to play as that character to acquire the items anyway.

In FF14, since a single character can be multiple classes, using your high rank class to easily farm items for your lower ranked class would ruin game balance.

This is why the need for level caps in games like FF11 and FF14 is much more necessary than in other MMOs where you can't be every job on one character.

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Originally Posted by Physic

IF they dont allow it to be easymoded, they can put long lasting drops in the rank 30 dungeon, or they can put currency or some other form of content you slowly build up to exchange later. They could also put slotted materia gear in there. they could put gear that crafters can upgrade as you level.

But putting any type of rewards that may last, be upgradeable, or build up only makes sense if the dungeon isnt easy.
so yeah, not capping the dungeon has a pretty large effect on the content, and its replayability. Its the difference between making real content for all levels of play and making the game endgame heavy.

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that's a lot of what if's hell look how long it has taken just to get dungeons, you actually think all that is going to be in a dungeon you will out rank in a few levels?

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Problem is, in their previous MMO, SE made certain gear that at level 7 of 75 possible, was best in slot. So, it does matter. The gear in the dungeon may be best in slot for certain builds, etc, and therefore should be difficult to achieve.

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This isnt the previous MMO.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

I covered that point right here:

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Level 25 gear has zero effect on game balance especially when there is no PvP and said gear will most likely be rare/exclusive and will have no effect on the economy since it can not be sold

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

I covered that point right here:

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I don't see how that is any worse then Making a shit ton of gil then buying all HQ items for your lower level characters as you rank them up.

I don't feel I ruined the game for myself when I went out and solo'ed/duo'ed all the R30 NMs for gear for my lower ranking classes. Infact I had a lot of fun doing it~

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Originally Posted by Gally

I don't see how that is any worse then Making a shit ton of gil then buying all HQ items for your lower level characters as you rank them up.

I don't feel I ruined the game for myself when I went out and solo'ed/duo'ed all the R30 NMs for gear for my lower ranking classes. Infact I had a lot of fun doing it~

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this isnt about their experience

its about them wanting to force you to experience the same way they do