I don't argue that. I'm saying I don't understand nor can see a good reason why you'd flame and spread hate for a individual who happens also to stream games for a living. Can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by DBriggs304
Thank you for inviting Asmongold to the media tour!!
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10-02-2021, 10:41 PMSotaris
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10-02-2021, 11:04 PMweebtext
I still have no clue who Asmongold is haha
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10-02-2021, 11:59 PM_Koneko_
I still don't know why people post in MPK threads they are well known troll and regularly get forum vacations
and good for Asmonbald and Yoshi P already shot down mythic + before but nice troll threat MPK i guess -
10-03-2021, 12:27 AMSherlottaEryutHe’s basically a gamer who has a impressive amount of fans on YouTube, he is so ecifically known for playing WoW.Quote:
Originally Posted by weebtext
A lot of people seem to have this unspoken perception that MMO’s were invented because of him and he should be the voice of all the gaming community. - that was just a dig at a certain type of his fans.
He is also the reason for the massive influx of players joining XIV. -
10-03-2021, 12:51 AMMisutoraruyou are not alone XDQuote:
Originally Posted by weebtext
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10-03-2021, 02:22 AMZanarkand-RonsoAnd I told you Multiple times Im not Jealous of anybody. So your Reasoning skills are just as bad, Unless, thats all part of the Troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
You have yet to prove otherwise. Not like you can.
Moving on, not even gonna bother with everything else.
I know what your game is and Im bored of entertaining it. -
10-03-2021, 03:51 AMWoWI'm glad for once that you admitted that you have bad reasoning skills. But even then, you still failed to understand what I said. So let me make it really simple for you. Anyone claiming anything, doesn't necessarily make it true. Asmongold saying he's not special, doesn't mean he's not. You saying you're not jealous doesn't mean you're not. Now the problem with you is that you like to say "he/I said X, therefore X is true". But when I say I'm not a troll, you switch gears and dismiss that statement. So this tells me you like to cherry pick what you like when it suits you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
Why? Because you realized how wrong you were about BLU?! You know, you should just admit it when you're mistaken. your jealousy is affecting you real bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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10-03-2021, 05:33 AMRae88Because people are developing a weird hatred of streamers in the gaming community and MPK is just playing off it. It's a nice bait post because they knew exactly which button (streamer) to press to get an irrational swelling of emotion out of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by _Koneko_
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10-03-2021, 06:55 AMZanarkand-RonsoYou call me Jealous for saying exactly what Asmon himself said about himself. Then you switch gears and bring up things I never once mentioned and use it to insult me.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
Using your Logic, just because you say your not a troll, doesn't mean you Aren't a Troll. But then if I say Im not jealous, you say that it doesn't mean Im not Jealous. So you ignore and sidestep anything that doesn't suit you.
All the Proof I need your a Troll.
Moving on. -
10-03-2021, 07:10 AMRasler_Heios
I'm one of those who believe that FFXIV should be a game of its own and not a copy, not even be similar, to another game.
If you miss the other game that much then shouldn't you playing the said game? Give that game the support it needs.
If what the other replies indicate is true that the OP has been trolling, then what a troll LEGEND he or she truly is. -
10-03-2021, 07:28 AMLarirawielI have some bad news for you. FF14 is very similar to WoW Cataclysm/MoP. It is almost a carbon copy of it. Yes, later Square Enix improved a lot but it has still many characteristics which are an one-to-one-copy from WoW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios
That is a reason why i do not understand why a loud crowd of FF14 players hate WoW so much. They literally play it respectively a earlier version of it where meny things already went downhill.
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10-03-2021, 09:36 AMMimiluHe's just some Twitch steamer with really twitchy eyebrows and his mouth permanently stuck open in surprise/confusion (at least, that's how I see him). XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Misutoraru
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10-03-2021, 10:43 AMRasler_HeiosSorry but that's not bad news to me. FFXIV is indeed very similar to WoW since the director himself said it was the inspiration and it was based on it. It's a known fact and it's not news anymore. I don't hate WoW. You assumed very much incorrectly, I didn't say any such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larirawiel
What I said in my comment is the games have to be separate and people who wanted to play this game exactly as another game was should just play that other game so you can at least continue supporting the said game. Big difference.
For me also, things in FFXIV went uphill after the game started, which is in line to the wish I mentioned from my reply that the game be of its own. -
10-03-2021, 10:51 AMShurrikhanI just tend to enjoy MMO worlds before they get stretched over multiple, mostly unrelated regions. Outside of alt-leveling and some gathering, the addition of Heavensward meant the irrelevance of the initial three city-states, just as the addition of Outland meant the irrelevance of Azeroth, and Northrend then the irrelevance of either, etc., etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Pigzig
Apart from a few jobs, Heavensward typically had my favorite kits/combat, so I'd love to steal that, but if I were to go back to any particular era, it'd be the one in which the world felt a bit more cohesive and whole.
...That's not to say I wouldn't love to see the city-states and their frontiers fleshed out far more. I'm certainly no purist. -
10-03-2021, 12:16 PMWoWYou still can't see it!!? AHAHAHA! you even wrote the exact same structure and are pretending they're different rofl!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
Let me make them simpler for you:
Just because you say you're not X, doesn't mean you're not X.
Just because you say you're not a troll, doesn't mean you're not a troll.
Just because you say you're not jealous, doesn't mean you're not jealous.
Just because Asmongold say he's not special, doesn't mean he's not special.
And since you're convinced I'm a troll, I'm convinced based on all the evidence we have from your posts that you're super jealous of Asmongold. But if you only believe what's been told to you blindly, then me telling you I'm not a troll should automatically make you believe me. But since you love cherry picking what suites you, you won't.
You know things would be much better if you just let go of your jealousy. You wouldn't make stupid remarks as you are doing now.
You forgot the balding part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
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10-03-2021, 12:51 PMZanarkand-RonsoWoW....what utter Nonsense lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
At least I got a good laugh out of this. -
10-03-2021, 12:57 PMWoWOf course it's utter nonsense for you. You have bad reasoning skills as you have admitted yourself rofl! But I find it funny you haven't responded about BLU soloing Omega. Be a champ and show us that you can get the spells solo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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10-03-2021, 01:27 PMZanarkand-RonsoYeah. Cause it is. But at least it was funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
Why should I? I didnt even say you could 1-shot Omega and do it Solo. I said you could Solo Bosses and Content with a Spell in the game. I gave no specifics, so you ran off into your own nonsense once again. And you get most of the spells solo.....or did you have to get all your spells in groups?
Not that there is anything wrong with that..but y'know you can get alot of Spells on your own. -
10-03-2021, 02:18 PMAlyaNimfa
I don't care about warcraft in the slightest. It's a crap game and that is why I am here and not there.
I don't know why you all insist on talking about it here though, go on their forums. -
10-03-2021, 04:27 PMRae88The funny thing is for the past few months, and in fact even earlier I think for the past 6 months ish, people have been talking about FFXIV on their forums. But their forum is moderated so whenever it gets out of hand threads start to get closed or moved I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by AlyaNimfa
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10-03-2021, 05:31 PMWoWJust because you said so, doesn't make it true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
I'll keep reminding you of this till you understand it rofl!
Omega is a boss and is a content! Which brings me back to my point! BLU is not a full solo content if you can't do the main thing it's supposed to do solo and gathering spells is one of these things. Thank you for proving that. It's so easy to get you to admit things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
Thank you again for admitting that you can't do the said solo content fully solo rofl!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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10-04-2021, 01:19 AMZanarkand-RonsoSo just because you say you arn't a Troll, that doesn't make it True.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
By this Logic, you are a Troll.
I never said that Bluemage was Fully Solo Content. You love to put words in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
I said that is IS Solo Content, but they expanded on it to give it more to do. If you wanna do group Content and these Additional things, thats on you. Otherwise, you can do most of it on your own Solo. Including getting Spells.
Stop twisting things to Troll me, and actually read what I said.
You can, and I have done Content solo.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
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10-04-2021, 01:23 AMZanarkand-RonsoTHat true? Lol interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rae88
Curious what kind of topics they make about our game.
Probly just how weeby and easy it is right? lol -
10-04-2021, 01:31 AMMindiori
Posts vary. Some hate the anime aesthetic which is just preference. Others find little challenge in the casual side; remarking that the most difficult things here are barely comparable to their heroic content. For the better part citing endgame rotations as the weak point. FFXIV has casual appeal and a specific aesthetic. So nothing that untoward or inaccurate minus the usual hyperbole. My primary annoyance is that the drivel IQ that floats here from that game, tends to be those looking for a zero effort cruise. Dumbing it down due to majority share of the money - into following wow down the braindead road. In reality its past identity was more inclusive than its now favoritism of the mentally handicapped. Those that pursue the higher curve in both titles, I take less issue with. They however, are few and far between. Those enjoying meaningful achievement and challenge all too few.
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10-04-2021, 01:36 AMZanarkand-RonsoEh, we gotta think and remember that the Raiding scene alone is pretty small and it wont maintain a whole game for long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindiori
Even Fighting Games know that you will never see growth or Longevity in your Product without the Casuals. So even though it may just be a Money move, that move also maintains a Product and gives it more content. Even if that content gets more geared towards the Casuals to keep them around, I dont think Hardcore stuff is ever forgotten. -
10-04-2021, 08:59 AMMindiori
Yes but it's exactly that, which the agenda of dumbing everything down hides behind. That's my overall gripe. Nobody is trying to exclude those who want to have fun at the end of the day without arduous extra effort (be it their opinion or otherwise).
What needs to stop is everyone making the assumption that casual is equivalent to some sort of special needs specimen who can barely switch on their own pc without watching a youtube guide. And the sad thing is - many of these people act that way for handouts and laugh as the game literally is reduced to falling asleep at the keys for anyone with a IQ above 1.
People need to become familiar with the idea that hyperbole works both ways. You can have someone exaggerate about difficulty because even Dark Souls is 'too easy' for even the early content. Then you have those who make the claim that bloat is more than 5 buttons and DPS should be basically one ability. That is nauseating. Just like SCH is now.
What would be nice is some actual common ground. Some appreciation for all those in the healer thread right now. Who are sad, because the classes they love have been turned into something that could barely entertain a 5 year old - let alone they that have been playing healers since mmo's began.
Its all too convenient for people to exclude people they don't agree with. As such veterans have been confined to a corner of exaggeration themselves. By people barely intelligent enough to tank Sastasha with a 100 man army behind them. A line has to be drawn somewhere and if nobody else will say it, I might as well.
Change is inevitable. That is not being argued. Also that many are casual. Yet even the most casual person can see the worth in progressive challenge and how it brings value. That should not be so limited that those looking for it have 1% of a game to look forward to. As it isn't just and it isn't fair.
Providing people bare that in mind - and have some sympathy for those who feel differently and hate the constant erasure of effort; all good. If the developers and players do not understand that triviality ultimately destroys worth or meaning. Then there isn't much point is there.
Many things are fine here. Tank homogeny and Healer DPS kit is not amongst them. What that is right now - is pathetic. And it would be nice if refugees don't parrot that differently, just because they haven't experienced the past. There is no reason things should amount to so 'casual'; they can be completed without even remotely bothering. And I'll leave it there. The point is clear enough. Content for all. Not just people too lazy to bother. -
10-06-2021, 12:46 PMWoWAnd just because you say you're not jealous, that doesn't make it true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
You are jealous. See how nicely this logic fits in?
I never said you said BLU is fully solo. you need to learn how to read what others say. And this is the problem when you don't know what you're talking about. When BLU was first announced. It was said it will be a solo content. Not a group content. And what were the things that BLU was supposed to do fully solo?? Leveling, getting spells and the carnival. But now you need a group to do one those said solo content, which is getting spells. And even with all the things they added to BLU, you still can't get all the spells solo rofl! So learn what you're talking about before you spread nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
Prove that you can get all spells solo. I'm still waiting rofl!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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10-06-2021, 02:50 PMShurrikhanAnd yet, last I checked, more people have cleared Ultimate than have capped BLU or gotten the majority of Majhong achievements, while there is a greater portion of players who have cleared at least one Savage tier than have gotten past, say, floor 60 in PotD, gotten the majority of Diadem achievements, have bred a chocobo in CR, etc., etc., or even gotten BLU past level 15, or gotten at least two Aquapolis achievements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
For all we might call it out as not representative of the whole game or the playerbase's interests, the raid scene is still far more the bread and butter of even this MMO than any of the alternate expenditures of that development time outside of, perhaps, the cost-minimizing or solely reused content of relic grinds (post and pre-StB, respectively). -
10-06-2021, 02:52 PMAron73
So about mythic dungeons and raid, I do like a challenge matter fact, the harder it gets, the better, but I also hope that if it is implemented in FF14, then I will pray to God it doesn't turn out to be something only top tear FC's will be able to do but something I will be able to sit in duty finder for 10-15min and has a group going that will at least tries to do this not like in WoW where only the top raiding guilds do these dungeons/raids and if you wish to have even a sliver of a chance to join you have to have the right gear the right profession and be in the right guild so +1 from me on this idea and -a million for this to become only tope raiding FC content
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10-06-2021, 03:02 PMKrojackYou mean a bad game? Umm... ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by MPK
FF14 is doing great because it's NOT LIKE WOW. If FF14 were to become like WoW then I would stop playing. There is a reason I and piles of others have left that game. -
10-06-2021, 03:14 PMShironeko_NarunyanJust email YoshiP and ask him to turn all females into fruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MPK
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10-06-2021, 03:20 PMAron73I can only agree with this statement WoW use to be a good game but so different from FF14 both games are good or at least WoW use to be good somewhere around vanilla and the first expansion but no one in their right mind can say WoW is good now! There are so many things wrong with WoW att that if I would start to list them all I would have to sit here for a week if not more!Quote:
Originally Posted by MPK
So plz for the love of all that's holy stop saying FF14 is worse than WoW and if you still think WoW is better than FF14 then leave and go back playing it! -
10-06-2021, 03:37 PMWoWWhat are you even talking about!??? SE doesn't care about any of the battle content in this game. Even their advertisement shows that. Only the casual things that you mentioned are what they're advertising in their video below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
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10-06-2021, 06:24 PMKnot_DAre you sure about that? Because until now A11S (Cruise Chaser) still in my heart :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
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10-06-2021, 10:34 PMZanarkand-RonsoIts still smaller in comparison then the Casual Playerbase. But all these Different types of content will always exist and continue to be made, so both Scenes get content, its just that Casuals are more catered to. Thats all my point was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
Not Content Clears.
The fact you keep coming back to this proves you just want a reaction out of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
Textbook Trolling
And yet you said thisQuote:
Originally Posted by WoW
So...yeah.
Never said you could. I said ""you get most of the spells solo""Quote:
Originally Posted by WoW
Learn to read. Stop Trolling
But, I Hope you had fun, cause Im not responding to you anymore. You're reading skills are Atrocious. Unless your just trolling....
Either way Im 100% done and Bored with you. -
10-06-2021, 11:18 PMWoWI'm just exposing your jealousy. And you hate that I'm right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
You know, you really need to learn how to read. I never said that you said BLU is fully solo. I asked you to prove that you can do fully solo the content you claim to be a solo content, which is getting spells. See the difference? Or is it too complicated for you? But since you've already changed your response to "most of the spells" then you've proven my point. Getting spells it not fully soloable. So it's not a solo content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
And just before you use your flawed reasoning skills and say "but doing most of it solo makes it a solo content", I'll just remind you that you can solo all previous expansion dungeons now. But that doesn't make them a solo content.
You keep saying that but every time I prove you wrong, you come back for more rofl!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso
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10-06-2021, 11:28 PMSaraide
So when do we start blaming wow players on the media tour leaks? Am I too late already?
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10-06-2021, 11:58 PMMimiluLeaks and datamining have always been a staple in XIV. :DQuote:
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I remember when we got leaks for ShB on GameFAQ. They leaked DNC, GNB, Viera, and Hrothgar. -
10-07-2021, 02:05 AMSaraideDamn, here I thought I wasnt too late to get on to that trend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
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10-07-2021, 11:46 AMZanarkand-RonsoWasn't that a guy from the inside?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimilu
Or maybe that guy just pretended to work at SQUARE to get more clout/infamy. Like I remember searching for more and More Information about "Lion-like face" and got super excited about a Ronso Race.
I still LOVE what we got, despite the obvious Problems.