Got kicked Right before boss.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

So you had two healers in your party?

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Yes, or a summoner i'm not too sure thou.

It's impossible to have two healers in a DF finder party. The fact that you're dead-set on this being the party line up, and now that you're not confident Kaldea was the DRG.... What other parts of this story have been wrong?

The whole situation is unfortunate, however, it seems like you very well may be directing your anger at the wrong party member. At this point, it's probably best to do some self-reflecting if you want to continue with tanking. Read some tooltips, find a dummy at your FC house and practice rotations, etc.

Most of us have done stupid things while playing new jobs (or just being new), it kind of goes with the territory. Most people in dungeons will be quite patient with you and offer advice if they know you are knew, or aren't comfortable with something yet. Listen to the advice and practice it when you can.

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Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline

Appreciate it. I never knew that was even a thing. How does one find out about that, but not how your basic abilities work? Legitimate question.

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Lol good question honestly. SE give tooltips and there are tooons of guides and info around, and other players/friends/fc mates that would more than likely be willing to help teach you if you only ask. Usually people find out about the command in Novice Network when they ask how to leave said network. The /nastatus off command is the only way I know of to for a person with the sprout to not be auto-pulled back into the network...you literally have to turn your status as a new user off, and lose access to the Network by extension.

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

also about the whole sprout thing yes i did hide mine, I don't understand what your point is for not showing mine, simply because i don't want the icon next to my name tag.

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The sprout-icon is there to let people know that you're still new to the game, so they know they're dealing with a new person right from the start.
You created this thread with "I'm new to this game" and then you hide this kinda relevant information from your fellow party members?
If you want the benefits from being new - for example more leeway, the benefit of the doubt, (polite) explantions of boss mechanics etc. - you should disclose that information to your party. A very, very easy way to do that is not to hide your sprout. We're not mindreaders, so if I see a level 50-person that should have a sprout but does not have one, I will assume that that character is an alt - or generally speaking: That the player behind that character is so not-new to the game that they felt comfortable taking that sprout off.
Bottomline: If you want people to give you leeway because you're new, dont hide that you're new.
Honestly, being a bit more proactive about that can work like a charm aswell - a little message at the beginning of a dungeon "Hey guys, still new to this and first time running this dungeon - gonna do my best, but hints are appreciated!" - I'm still doing that each time I take one of my melee classes into a dungeon after not playing them for a while (well, not excatly that message, but something along those lines).

actually it might of been a summoner, we had 1 healer actually.

Kaldea said they were a Samurai in their initial post in the other thread (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post4602876), before this thread was even posted. Their DRG is 70 and their SAM is 52, and you don't get much worth mentioning for running 50/60 on a max level character, and there would be no reason to lie about what class they were playing in the first place, so...

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

All i remember was for the party was, me (Tank) (Scholar) (Dragoon) (Healer), i'm not confidently sure what class kaldea was at the time of this but i'm 40% she was indeed the Dragoon.

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You know Kaldea is here...why not just ask them? Also, yeah, what they did was shitty, but it looks like they didn't initiate the post, and even if they said no, you'd have been kicked anyways from what it sounds like. Only takes two people in 4-mans to vote yes for kicking. Also, when I was a sprout, I found that a lot of people gave me advice because of my sprout status when I tanked myself. Never played WoW myself, I imagine it's very different.

You're not able to have 2 healers in a DF party. Considering both you and Kaldea corroborate having a scholar, I would accept that the healer is the scholar and you are misremembering. Kaldea said they were SAM and there was a DRG.

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Originally Posted by IttyBitty

Kaldea said they were a Samurai in their initial post in the other thread (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post4602876), before this thread was even posted. Their DRG is 70 and their SAM is 52, and you don't get much worth mentioning for running 50/60 on a max level character, and there would be no reason to lie about what class they were playing in the first place, so...

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i've never said i'm lying, just basing off what i remember, i've done multiple dungeons since i posted this, so i've somewhat forgot.

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

I played wow before joining FFXIV but i didn't play as a tank in wow i was mainly dps, so yes FFXIV is my first mmo playing as a tank, so let's not downgrade somebody just sayin.

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Then that's even less of an excuse to the issue. Sure, you didn't tank, but here's my question. Ever have a Warrior tank? Did you actually see them spam weapon throw? Because that's what you were basically doing, spamming weapon throw on one target and nothing else.

Only difference is at least weapon throw didn't cost 1/10th of your resource.

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

All i remember was for the party was, me (Tank) (Scholar) (Dragoon) (Healer), i'm not confidently sure what class kaldea was at the time of this but i'm 40% she was indeed the Dragoon.

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You can't have 2 healers. I think you need your colors checked too.

Here let me help.

BLUE IS THE TANK THAT HOLDS ALL THE THREATS

HEALERS HEAL YOU AND MEEEE

RED IS THE DEEPZ THAT HIT REALLY HARD

DOWN HERE IN THE DEEP BLUE SEA (Terribad spongebob references.)

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

All i remember was for the party was, me (Tank) (Scholar) (Dragoon) (Healer), i'm not confidently sure what class kaldea was at the time of this but i'm 40% she was indeed the Dragoon.

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SCH is a healer, and you cannot que into a roulette or dungeon and have two of them unless you are a premade party of 4. That is the only way you can bypass the restrictions on them.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Then that's even less of an excuse to the issue. Sure, you didn't tank, but here's my question. Ever have a Warrior tank? Did you actually see them spam weapon throw? Because that's what you were basically doing, spamming weapon throw on one target and nothing else.

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Tone it down a little. We've all caught on how he misremembered and edited to try and correct that.

He's got SAM and RDM at 50 and none of the other DoM/DoW classes he's unlocked after the PLD are above lvl 7. He wouldn't be able to get that type of experience even in the guildhests he might be able to queue into (I forgot what level you can).

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Originally Posted by KerriganV

SCH is a healer, and you cannot que into a roulette or dungeon and have two of them unless you are a premade party of 4. That is the only way you can bypass the restrictions on them.

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Checking back on my logs it showed someone else was the scholar and someone else was the dragoon, so i apologize for the misinfo on my end, so yes she was the samurai, also the whole vote kick was mostly done by the DRG and her, only reason i'm saying the scholar didn't vote because she simply didn't say anything in chat that basing off my skill, if anything she was a bit weird of the some of the stuff she typed, like the bleach thing that kaldea mentioned.

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

also about the whole sprout thing yes i did hide mine, I don't understand what your point is for not showing mine, simply because i don't want the icon next to my name tag.

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I will now try to address this properly but I think Kaldea answered it. Kaldea questioned why you would look up how to removing the icon next to your name tag and yet not want to look up how to do some of what others would consider to be the bare essentials of tanking. Having the answer of the game prompt told me how to hide it (I don't know if that's the case) is an answer?? I don't know.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

I will now try to address this properly but I think Kaldea answered it. Kaldea questioned why you would look up how to removing the icon next to your name tag and yet not want to look up how to do some of what others would consider to be the bare essentials of tanking. Having the answer of the game prompt told me how to hide it (I don't know if that's the case) is an answer?? I don't know.

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Only reason i hid it was the same thing i said above, also i never looked it up my FC simply told us in chat how to hide it.

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

Checking back on my logs it showed someone else was the scholar and someone else was the dragoon, so i apologize for the misinfo on my end, so yes she was the samurai, also the whole vote kick was mostly done by the DRG and her, only reason i'm saying the scholar didn't vote because she simply didn't say anything in chat that basing off my skill, if anything she was a bit weird of the some of the stuff she typed, like the bleach thing that kaldea mentioned.

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Yeah..some people are deliberately trollish with how they respond sadly..somehow they think because they are on the interwebs it makes it ok. Comments like that are most definitely reportable and should be. X.x

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Originally Posted by KerriganV

Yeah..some people are deliberately trollish with how they respond sadly..somehow they think because they are on the interwebs it makes it ok. Comments like that are most definitely reportable and should be. X.x

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Why bleach and not Tidepod i dont understand it.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

Why bleach and not Tidepod i dont understand it.

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XD
Tidepods are sooo last week, bleach never goes out of style.

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Originally Posted by xMysticx

i never looked it up my FC simply told us in chat how to hide it.

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This is also an acceptable answer to what Kaldea is asking. The point of Kaldea's question was "If person put the effort into finding out how to do this, why not something about their actual purpose in the game in a duty?" The answer is that you didn't have to expend any effort in finding it out. Your FC was helpful and informed you how to do it. It sounds like you didn't have any questions and thought your play was acceptable. Now, unfortunately through a large mess, you've learned that it's not.

They could have (depending on circumstances) kicked you earlier. It happened that one person wanted to try and help. Whether or not those windows worked out, it hasn't really been answered if there -was- a window. Open chest and being in battle means you can't.

It sounds like you AND Kaldea reported the scholar and the dragoon for their nasty and vile remarks so I do hope they learn to cut that out.