For the record FFXIV PvP may be dog shit. Though let us not down play the effort that went into for those that got top q0
100. That said I would be fine with them adding the rewards cause I like to see the world burn and I shamefully want one pvp mount due to school I was not going to commit to the grind required to even try to be competitive.
Moogle Treasure Festival 2021
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05-09-2021, 03:01 AMAwha
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05-09-2021, 03:36 AMInfindoxI'm a long term player, I have grinded things that are on this list and I have paid 4 million gil for the shiver emote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroka
I don't give two s***s and there's no insult to me. Almost everything in this game, as long as it's not gated behind time (like the xv event) becomes easier to get. Even Savage (Alexander is a complete curbstomp and as long as you do a few mechanics right, Omega is easy). Who cares if it becomes easier for newer players to get? There's plenty of other rewards in this game (Ultimate, Bozja duels, Ozma and Cerebrus mount, current Savage tier mount) that mean a lot now.
On pvp I would like to see them maybe make different colored models of certain mounts and put them in different content to make the orginal still mean something, but have the model for others. Kinda like how Construct VI-S is a red (and imo better) version then the one for winning 100 times on the Nadaam map in FL or the ape from Firmiment is pretty much the robot ape base. -
05-09-2021, 04:09 AMVahlnirIf that's how you viewed my post, that's on you. I never said anything about a majority. I'm only saying that it does happen, and it is very easy to do with how things are set up. I still stand by my initial points regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia
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05-09-2021, 05:27 AMKRIPTICON
The most coveted and highly sought after items in this game have never been easy or cheap to obtain. The benefits of in-game events like these far outweigh any cost associated with loss of exclusivity. There are plenty of ways for players to show that they have more gil, more time to grind, or more skill when it comes to tackling difficult content. Stuff like this is healthy for the game, even if it means hurting a few people's feelings.
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05-09-2021, 05:57 AMSturmChurro
I googled that supposedly exclusive "scarf", and I have gotta say... I'm not impressed.. at all. Isn't it actually a bandana for that matter? If people are wearing that out of some sort of prestige.. uh.. :confused: Frankly, the thing looks awful.
Other than that, maybe we will one day see the DR rewards as part of a moogle event. It would be lovely to destroy their value on the marketboard, and come EW will probably be unobtainable otherwise. -
05-09-2021, 10:57 AMlokowoko
honestly i'd be down for ANYTHING from pvp to be on the mogtome events, just on precident at this point, since it's pretty much the only content that hasn't be touched so far.
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05-09-2021, 11:23 AMkaynide
Re: item exclusivity
It’s sportscar/noisy motorcycle mentality at work is all.
99% of people do not care what other people have. Despite that, some small % of owners have a need to show off/gloat/lord over others. Often loudly. -
05-09-2021, 04:09 PMCommander_JustitiaSo what is your opinion on it? You just say, people are showing off rare items, well that is very normal in a RPG.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaynide
You want to give everyone all "sportscar" items in the game? Would people be happy about what they achieved if everybody else has it too? -
05-09-2021, 04:36 PMAnotherPerson
As a player who actually did try to PvP and go up the ladder, PvP achievements are no joke - The top 100 deserve the rewards they get - climbing is rough and it requires a lot of skill, tactics, positioning, and knowledge to get through the battle and win as a team. There's also a lot of time dedicated to just PvPing - not one or two battles, but over hundreds of battles, possibly thousands to get to the standing they were at. I remember reaching high silver rank on one my characters way back and I played over a hundred games, and people usually end top 100 with the lowest rank being platinum.
The amount of games played can't be translated over to PvE where fights are scripted and you can memorize the fight mechanics or unsync a fight to get the rewards easier (Kamuy Fifes) - you are fighting against actual players who can think and strategize as well, so they can change plans on the fly and adapt based on your tactics too. As you go up the ladder, people just get better at adapting because they would remember exactly how long their opponent's skills were last used + when they are about to be up, and play accordingly to interrupt or break your rhythm.
The difficulty of PvP pretty much stays relevant all year around, so it makes no sense to suddenly put them on the moogle tomestones in comparison to the other items listed.
PvP rewards are literally a representation of the sheer dedication and effort you put into learning and improving your job and role in battle. You can still get rewards from previous seasons even if you don't place top 100 by collecting wolf collars, but you just have do multiple seasons to get enough wolf collars depending on the rank which you end at. The top-100 specific rewards are pretty much in the same boat as those who spent days trying to get the title Saint /Beatus of the Firmament and solely focusing on nothing else but the title. It wouldn't make sense to give the person who achieved #1 the first place trophy furnishing for getting first place for the effort they put in, then let everyone else be able to buy the trophy too. The same applies with the mounts, though I'd argue there should be a separate mount that looks similar enough that you should be able to buy them with wolf collars even if you don't place top-100. That way, it doesn't feel like you're permanently locked out from having this type of mount entirely if you weren't able to play that season, but people who did play that season will still have a mount unique to them that signifies they made the effort to place top-100.
There should definitely be rewards that are only obtainable by doing ranked PvP only, but I hope they give an actual reward that isn't wolf collars for people who end up reaching at a certain rank (gold and above). It does feel pretty terrible to spend a lot of time to climb up to gold to get wolf collars, but then realize you don't actually have enough collars to redeem for anything you want. If the rank guaranteed at least a piece of gear or a mount based on the color of your rank in addition to the collars, it would be much better imo. That way, more people have a chance at the rewards / will strive for a certain ranking and PvP would be more active now that people that aren't the top-100 can get something as well. -
05-09-2021, 05:35 PMAlleo100% agree with you. After all a lot of the stuff on there can still be farmed. If its fine to take away that from people that farmed it the normal way then I dont see a reason why that would not be fine with PVP. I dont even mean the recent mount reward but at least start with the oldest one so with that people that got it the normal way have their time to shine while others still get the chance. (And since the mog event is only for a certain amount of time and rewards often switch out of it, it should still be rare enough)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuroka
Heck I would be fine if we got recolors of these mounts too.
But if its fine that people that got the scarf through real life competitions now have to share it with others then I see no reason for certain content to be excluded from it.
Yes I would be fine with recolors but at the same time, you yourself wrote that you dont care that stuff you had to grind for is there so why again make PVP the expection?Quote:
Originally Posted by Infindox
I dont deny that it takes dedication to reach the ranks but honestly a lot of stuff in the game does that. Extreme fights might mostly be against a scripted boss but it also takes time and skill to beat them up and even more time to get the mounts. Yet we are not only able to unsynch them a expansion later but now people will just need to wait until they are in the mog event and just get them without much effort too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnotherPerson
Its also not that great that the pvp season has no rank decay so anyone that wants to try it out too but is not there at the start stands no chance because a lot of the people will stop playing it as soon as they reach a certain position which makes it nearly impossible for all of those that come a bit later.
If they for example give us the hellhound which was released around season 3 then PVP players still got over 4 years where they got the mount exclusively to them. Thats more than a lot if not all the other content in the game can say about their rewards.
Edit: I mean they also gave us a 1.0 item that was a reward for clearing the hardest fight in 1.0. We got it through a simple event. If that is fine, then the PVP one should be too.