Why do people say its spoiling?

Agreed Remus, by that time, anyone who complains about the mechanics being explained is just being a troll who is trying to ruin it for others.

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Originally Posted by Hirmu

You'll get to play it your way for all eternity after those few days anyway.

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So does the other side. In both cases, via party finder. Because that's what party finder is for: To make a group according to your and only your specifications. Want a full miqo'te run? You can do that. Want a guaranteed blind run? You can do that. Want a run where everyone cleared already? You can do that. Want a speedrun? Want a slow run? Both are possible! And anytime at that!

In duty finder, you don't get to make those specifications. And the most mature way to go about that is to ask who wants what, explain that you'll do a ready check as poll and what "ready" and what "not ready" mean in that context, then vote this way and go by majority. You can leave if you don't like the result, but please make a party finder next time. That's how civilized men and women would do it.

If I'm experienced and someone else isn't, I let them know I'm available if they need tips/advice but will try to at least give them a chance to put their knowledge and skills to work first. I took off yesterday so I could blind run the new content because I like doing exactly that, but don't often get the opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

So does the other side.

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The first few days are the only ones ever when it's possible to do blind runs for this content, so it doesn't really apply the other way around.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

...but don\\'t those people realise they should be pf\\'ing a full party for such a restriction?

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We\\'re not even 48 hours into the patch so no they shouldn\\'t be putting that kinda thing in party finder. If it was 6 month old content maybe but day 1 content... lol

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I\\'ve heard this sentiment and I disagree with it. Sure, you know what\\'s going to happen but that doesn\\'t mean you still can\\'t enjoy the spectacle of it, the lead up, and the tension as you wait for it to happen.

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It does though. If you know someone\\'s going to die for example you kind of either detach yourself from them early on or never build that attachment in the first place.

It\\'s the same in fights. If someone says this happens that happens then that happens then it spoils the experience.

In some cases makes it worse. This mechanic will kill you if your facing the boss. Then said player spends the entire fight doing nothing at all but watching for that mechanic completely oblivious to everything around him.

I try and do everything blind. If there's new people I won't explain anything unless asked for tips in which case I generally start with the basics and see how that works. Or if we've had a couple of wipes I might make a couple of pointers but rarely at the start of the first pull unless specifically asked for tips

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Originally Posted by Remus

Sadly people who generally go in blind don't learn from their mistake and die to the same mechanic again.

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I don't find this to be true at all based on my experience. Our wholee raid group always goes in blind to these things, and we do that to pay attention to what's happening, discuss and learn. Of course it takes some wipes to see what happens when you do this or that. These fights are designed in a way that most stuff is really self-evident when you've seen it happen a few times and tried a couple of different things. This to me is the whole point of doing this content in the first place, so I really don't understand why people feel the need to ruin it for others.