Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

I've been leveling a Paladin for fun on my WHM once I'm tome capped for the week. I played a WAR as my main pre HW so I understand basic principles etc etc and I know the dungeons but I was painfully reminded why I stopped today. Long story short I had a level 30 BLM in Haukke manor who was:

A. Stutter stepping as if she would cast until the moment I would to to run in. At which point she would cast her move so it hit just before or just after Shield lob, causing me to fight her for aggro almost every pull and every boss.
B. Wearing a fully melded set of level 27 gear. (Is this a thing we do now?)

It was painful the whole way between that and the fact that our healer was obviously also newer and doing a lot of over healing. We actually didn't finish. The last boss was a disaster and after five wipes the two dps kicked the healer for being 'offline' which...was a lie and so I took the opportunity to leave. I don't even think it was his fault and I'll certainly take the blame for the one wipe where I hit sprint by accident to dodge an attack but to be fair I was at 11hp and would have died if I didn't. XD. But every other time it came down to the fact that the BLM refused to help with the first set of lamps because she thought it was a waste even though the healer asked us to because the AoE seemed to be causing him issues and because she /still/ would cast without giving me a second to build aggro /while/ blowing all her dps cooldowns in her drastically over zealously melded gear. It made it near impossible to even take the time to go flash the adds because the moment I wasn't hitting the boss it was on her and her fully melded gear didn't do much to keep her from dropping dead. The cherry on top is that obviously she was still not high enough to get quelling strike. Is this the reason my tank friends all groan when they see a BLM pre level 32?

Pre-pull when we were setting out position markers and deciding MT/OT.... our bard decided to play Foe's Requeim.

Seeing Ravana suddenly stomp over and whomp us was a heart attack moment. Thankfully the tanks got him under control and we all had a laugh at the bard's derp moment.

No mount drop tho :/

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Originally Posted by BroodingFicus

The cherry on top is that obviously she was still not high enough to get quelling strike. Is this the reason my tank friends all groan when they see a BLM pre level 32?

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Quelling Strikes is an Archer skill, so... the BLM level doesn't really count. But yeah, one would have thought that BLM would have added Quelling to the three crossclass skill slots they'd have available at level 30. If she'd bothered levelling ARC that high, of course. (Is it just me, btw, who gets confused momentarily when seeing ARC and thinking it means ARCanist? Stupid ARC/ACN shortenings....)

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Originally Posted by Vele

A handful of people in Alliance chat expressed regret that they couldn't comm the caster who used that lb3. (Funnily enough I didn't get comms from my actual party.) Despite rolling garbage on the orchestrion roll, I walked out of there feeling like a champ.

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I always did that one when it was available which was almost never in a random DF group because some turd always uses it when the boss is invincible or something and wastes it. It saves a lot of time on that phase to use a caster LB3 I don't know why people get salty about it I guess you denied them their cool Naruto finisher at 0.2% when a LB3 is completely pointless.

A friend (AST) and I (DRK) signed in for trial roulette. While we waited for the DF to pop up I told him that I was a bit scared of getting Ravana or Bismarck in roulette because I never tanked them before and these trials are pretty infamous for people who suck, insult others for being new or instantly leave, and all that shit. Then we got the invite and while I was stuck at the load screen my friends writes: "LOL!" I just thought: "No no no NO!" But yes, I was standing in front of this FUCKING FLYING WHALE ;_;

Worst thing was, I got hit by the very first AOE used by an enemy of the very first adds pack and got knocked off the island like a real derp ;_; All I wanted to do at that moment was to lock myself into the bathroom and cry ;_;

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Originally Posted by BroodingFicus

B. Wearing a fully melded set of level 27 gear. (Is this a thing we do now?)

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Um, I've always done this personally, I figure the better my gear the easier the leveling process will be, regardless of job. I don't troll tanks though to be fair. HM can be a tricky one for PLD though, it's the first dungeon where the insanity of making ShO level 40 is a thing. In fact it's the only dungeon where I've ever had to get all princess PLD on someone after I demanded a SMN put Titan away before I'd pull again.

Where has all the pink GONE on MXMoondoggie ?! I want it back

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

Um, I've always done this personally, I figure the better my gear the easier the leveling process will be, regardless of job. I don't troll tanks though to be fair. HM can be a tricky one for PLD though, it's the first dungeon where the insanity of making ShO level 40 is a thing. In fact it's the only dungeon where I've ever had to get all princess PLD on someone after I demanded a SMN put Titan away before I'd pull again.

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I mean, I self crafted all HQ gear myself, but I never bothered melding leveling gear unless I just had appropriate materia laying around taking up inventory space. It just seems excessive. Not to mention the materia impact you'd be attaching to level 27 gear...would it even give +1 or would it be +0?

I ran Trial roulette at about 4am last night on AST.

I make the mistake of choosing in-progress. I really should stop doing that for trial roulettes, you'd think I'd learn. I clenched my bottom and went in. Seph normal.

Great! I think, I've been healing his big brother all week. I can carry this.

Famous last thoughts.

The main tank had no concept of a tank buster. I told him "you need to use your CDs when he's winding his fist up." He didn't do it after two more times, so I tell the SCH "Just use Adlo, that should mitigate the damage enough that he can survive." It's not like SephEx; it doesn't do 30k+. The SCH didn't.

Fortunately, I was on AST, so I switched over to Noct because if the SCH isn't going to shield the tankbusters, I will - I can solo heal this all day, I think to myself. And I can. During this run we also switched main tanks because the first tank showed no sign of improvement.

All seems to be working great so far. Except the now-off tank stands in every cleave (both the frontal cleave after the tankbuster and the big half-room cleaves). He ended up with 3 stacks of Vulnerability debuff somehow by the time adds popped up. He got smashed by the Cochma in one hit.

Well, add phase was chaos, but we were able to get through it. A few people got hit off the ledge on the first breath, but that's fair.

The three people in the party who actually knew their jobs were able to carry the rest. Until wind. They were shouting in party chat FOCUS WIND FOCUS WIND and even put a number 1 over it.

Someone LB'd the boss instead.

We all vote abandoned because I don't think I've seen more incompetent players all around in my life.

Bonus epilogue: I ended up in my next trial roulette with another person from that party - we got sent into Titan HM. Fortunately, he was one of the three people who knew what he was doing. The Titan HM went pretty terribly, too, with everyone but him and I dying at some point to either weights, bomb explosions, or being hit off the edge, but we still cleared.

What a terrible night for DF.

Lost City of Amdapor Hard.

Healer and bard point the clones at me and tank, I call them out (mind pointing your clones at the wall?), healer goes salty (I'll point at you (me) then, drgs always trying to be edgy), brd and healer on the same boat going st00ped.

Seriously, that attitude, if you fail at mechanics own it, don't be a bitch.

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Originally Posted by bounddreamer

I mean, I self crafted all HQ gear myself, but I never bothered melding leveling gear unless I just had appropriate materia laying around taking up inventory space. It just seems excessive. Not to mention the materia impact you'd be attaching to level 27 gear...would it even give +1 or would it be +0?

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Level 27 gear is only T1 materia so I'd just stick a secondary stat in there, can usually pick those up quite cheap off the MB, even crit. T2's are usually cheap too for higher levels but I don't stick T3's on leveling gear. I'm sure it doesn't make a massive difference but for a few hundred gil I figure I might as well, especially if I've saved 1000's by crafting it myself in the first place.

lately I don't know if this becoming a nom but in void ark one of the tanks pull while the rest of the party get lock out it happen too me and my friend a few time this week

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

Level 27 gear is only T1 materia so I'd just stick a secondary stat in there, can usually pick those up quite cheap off the MB, even crit. T2's are usually cheap too for higher levels but I don't stick T3's on leveling gear. I'm sure it doesn't make a massive difference but for a few hundred gil I figure I might as well, especially if I've saved 1000's by crafting it myself in the first place.

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I always melded accuracy on my phys. dps to be able zo hit higher lvl mobs while leveling, while also leveling crafter with that weekly bonus.

I was doing my trial roulette for that last bit of lore for the week. I get in progress sephirot normal, they wiped once I'm like cool no big deal a few newbies meh it's easy let's do this! Oh boy... We would get to final phase and people would forget to kill the wind thingy. Then when they were able to kill the wind thingy they kept dying to everything else. More than half the party would die and fall off and twice I raised the entire party with Healer LB 3 so we can finish the run and they all died again. Twice. I was done after that I like to help people and help get them clears but I have my limits >_<

I"ll go a head and put a couple things up.

1. That moment when you're the healer, and even if you aren't an end-game pro and are still working out some kinks, the tank tells you that he'll tank for you anytime. (>w<)

2. That moment when you don't get any comms despite the fact that you, the squishy thm dps (at Toto norm), had to play both healer and dps due to the healer going tunnel-vision on dps. To make things worse, the tank isn't gonna go out of his way to remove any adds that are jumping on you and/or the healer.

Ofc, you could just focus on dps as well, but on that offchance that the tank dies...welp, guess who's squishy butt is gonna go next. So yeah...and since I was getting hit too, well, dps + heal > dead dps = 0 dps. And if i didn't try to get the adds off the healer, well..id' be their target due to proximity. (I'm looking at you, final boss with your mites and stuff..)

I will admit, I did go to Toto 3 times that day, and the last group I was with was the only one where the tank tried to grab the adds. It was also a pretty fun party too, though we couldn't really friend each other due to being on dif servers. We had been communicative though, both about random things as well as what we were planning to do dungeon-wise (ie: full clear, which we did, or not). This also made me realize that with the right people, even repetitive content can be more, interesting.

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Originally Posted by chibaby

lately I don't know if this becoming a nom but in void ark one of the tanks pull while the rest of the party get lock out it happen too me and my friend a few time this week

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It's the way of all the 24 man content.

Doing Mentor Roulette, get Odin. PLD pulls before anyone says anything, doesn't pop any buffs for the tank buster and proceeds to get 1 shot because they only have 7k HP. The WAR can tank extraordinarily well, but some of the DPS are new and are caught off guard by all the AoEs.

We wipe, PLD pulls again before anyone says anything yet a 2nd time. Pops 0 buffs, dies again. WAR MTs, DPS dodge a little better, but eventually we wipe.

PLD complains now about everything, I tell them that the NEED to pop buffs for the tank buster. For which they reply, "What buffs?" "Sentinel, Rampart, something. You are a PLD, you literally have 11 buffs to chose from." "You're not even speaking English."

We go again, PLD actually pops a buff for the tank buster. But tries to delay the damage by dragging Odin around the arena much to the melee's annoyance. We actually get him to 6% before we wipe again.

We try again and again and again. We're sub 30min on the timer now. I'm lagging, the WAR's TV isn't working, the PLD is trying to MT and not popping buffs, healers have no MP. We wipe.

So we vote abandon, everyone else is fairly calm about the situation but the PLD is freaking out and raging.

Thankfully I requeued after the abandon and got Titan NM with some fresh newbies who were really excited about the fight and listened very well to the tank and I when we explained what to look out for.

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Originally Posted by Selli

"You're not even speaking English."

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This is probably the dumbest comment of all and I dont care who made it. Whoever made it should best learn how to behave in a community where you factually dont know for sure IF the other person is really not having some language problems. Not telling is the case here but could be, saying stuff like that annoys me the hell out of me and I would initiate a kick vote just for that reason alone no matter if you (general you) are the best player ever.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

This is probably the dumbest comment of all and I dont care who made it. Whoever made it should best learn how to behave in a community where you factually dont know for sure IF the other person is really not having some language problems. Not telling is the case here but could be, saying stuff like that annoys me the hell out of me and I would initiate a kick vote just for that reason alone no matter if you (general you) are the best player ever.

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It was the PLD and I did try to vote kick after that comment, but it was rejected. He at least made an attempt to pop buffs after that point so I let it slide.

I was doing some of the Midas set last night and having to run the first two floors A5+6 repeatedly to get the tokens I wanted. No biggie.

...But I had this one A6 run that just did not want to go right from the get go. People were taking a lot of extra damage and even one of the tanks for some reason was having difficulties staying alive. No biggie DF happens, it is slow, very slow but we are working our way through the four bosses. Then I get the message about the auto-clean about to go off. 10-9-8-7 suddenly everyone is DPSing like mad 6-5-4 a sliver of life remains 3-2- and we down the last boss... 0.0 Wow, I mean just wow. Grateful we cleared it but that was insanely close.

Earlier fight on A5 took a cleave to the face from the boss in big form when the tank couldn't hold aggro. It was early in the fight so I could only think he was either way undergeared to me or slow on applying his abilities. Never happened again after that but it was a surprise to see the boss turn on us like that. Same fight someone did not move and dropped the green sludge in the corner and we all had to move which meant that the bombs were not punted far enough and we wiped. Things went better after that.

Wait A6 has auto-clean enrage?

Holy hell. I've seen it go off in A8, but A6? Those are some bad DDs.

Did A6 tonight to try and get my bolt drop. I'm a Paladin.

On my second run I got grouped up with what I believe to be a pre-made, as they talked very cheerily amongst themselves. My co-tank is a Drk, with about 19k hp. He pops Grit as we start, so I happily take the OT spot without any objections on my 24k hp Pally. No big deal right? The guy dies to the first tankbuster from Brawler, and I immidiately step up to save the party and grab hold of him with provoke. He's showing the bad-tanking signs. Not pulling bosses out of aoe, not performing tank swaps, you guys know the drill. It's at this point I notice that he has dexterity accessories. Yeah you heard me. Dexterity. I pointed this out to him and said it would be better if he changed that, to which he replied that he couldn't because his iLvl would be 198 if he didn't use these accessories. ...Okay. Right. Anyway we go onwards to the last robot, with this guy still main tanking. I'm not even given a choice, didn't matter if this guy had weakness or vulnerability, he seemed really adamant about being main tank.

Before I even have a chance to tank swap with him he dies at 2 stacks. Now I'm used to swapping at 3 stacks on the last robot of A6, although I notice some doing it at 2. But with the weakness this guy had at this point I don't think it would matter. I'm suspecting he's not even popping cooldowns at all since he died so fast. But anyway, battle continues and we eventually clear it. Turbulent as it was. Now it's over right? I can roll for my loot and leave right? Nope. 3 of these guys remain, and decide to try and wait me out for the remaining bolt that I rolled on.

Asks me how much I rolled for, to which I reply "You'll find out when you roll." It ended with the screenshot below as they eventually rolled with about 20 seconds left on the loot timer. But my god, how much of an annoying asshat do you have to be? C'mon man, grow up a little. I'm happy I got my bolt, or I would've been salty all night.

http://i68.tinypic.com/mv6ejs.png

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Originally Posted by Torunya

he couldn't because his iLvl would be 198 if he didn't use these accessories.

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...okay, so back at the start of 3.2, I had to switch out my tank choker (pentamelded i150) with my healer choker in order to get in. But I friggin' switched back once I was inside. (Except for this one time when I forgot..... /blush) It's not like the ilvl is strictly enforced once you're inside, and even if he'd be i198, he'd be a lot more valuable with tank accessories than "higher ilvl" dex. -_- Some people. I don't get them.

Grats on the bolt, though =)

M3 normal where the MNK in the party was somehow in Raptor Form for almost the entire fight and only got GL3 twice or three times.

...it was a very long fight due to the lack of DPS but that just exacerbated the issue further.

My friend asked me to help him level in Cutter's Cry, and I asked if I could bring my LNC since I want it leveled and done with.
He didn't care so away we went

Obviously the party asked why I was LNC and this is honestly the best response I've ever gotten:
http://i.imgur.com/0J3w0GR.png
That was a good group too, 10/10 would party again

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

This is probably the dumbest comment of all and I dont care who made it. Whoever made it should best learn how to behave in a community where you factually dont know for sure IF the other person is really not having some language problems. Not telling is the case here but could be, saying stuff like that annoys me the hell out of me and I would initiate a kick vote just for that reason alone no matter if you (general you) are the best player ever.

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Not speaking english is fine, ticking E for DF when you know you clearly do not understand english in order to just speed up queues is not.

Which begs the question of how they got paired up. Either Selli has languages she doesn't understand ticked or the PLD did. One obviously in the wrong.

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Not speaking english is fine, ticking E for DF when you know you clearly do not understand english in order to just speed up queues is not.

Which begs the question of how they got paired up. Either Selli has languages she doesn't understand ticked or the PLD did. One obviously in the wrong.

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I am pretty sure that the PLD's remark was not in response to what language Selli was speaking, but rather in response to her listing off buffs. In other words, they had (or were pretending they had, not sure which) no idea what she was talking about, and/or was asking her to dumb it down.
Either way, the PLD was either trolling or had never read their skills and was remarkably clueless as a result.

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Not speaking english is fine, ticking E for DF when you know you clearly do not understand english in order to just speed up queues is not.

Which begs the question of how they got paired up. Either Selli has languages she doesn't understand ticked or the PLD did. One obviously in the wrong.

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nothing justifies such attitude NOTHING in absolute if you cant behave in a community without name calling is your problem. Also I know English people that speak English like spanish cow even worse then mine so yeah..maybe is good to first make sure YOUR English is the best of the best before you go and point fingers to others.

Yes ? you are one of the reasons why this community is soo toxic in so many levels.

One time I joined an A6 run in progress. The other 7 members were at the final boss and still fighting, so I had to wait for them. I thought they were gonna wipe, But no, they had the boss down to like 10% and just kept on doing fine. They beat the boss and the loot is distributed. I rolled a 91 on the Midan Bolt...only for another party member to say NO ONE ROLL ON THE BOLT! I uh...I kinda won the bolt, felt terribly awkward and then left. I've never felt so awkward in my life...

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Not speaking english is fine, ticking E for DF when you know you clearly do not understand english in order to just speed up queues is not.

Which begs the question of how they got paired up. Either Selli has languages she doesn't understand ticked or the PLD did. One obviously in the wrong.

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I queue for English only. I am a PvPer and the number 1 rule of Frontline queues is to queue in the dominate language of your data center or your queue will never pop. The Duty Finder picks the language before finding the party. So there is no possible way I could accidentally be in a party that was non-English.

I don't understand where this non-existent language barrier is coming from. I'm speaking English right now, fluidly, and 100% of my posts are in English. If he didn't speak English, why would he have said, "You're not even speaking English"? If he didn't understand English, there would be no reason to make that remark, nor would I have understood the remark if he had said it in another language. Everyone present in that party spoke English, which is why I quoted things said in English. No one even used the auto-translate functions. The PLD was just being cheeky.

I am going to agree 100% with Ivy on this one. This very accurately describes the situation and I don't understand how it could be interpreted any other way.

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Originally Posted by Chirol86

I am pretty sure that the PLD's remark was not in response to what language Selli was speaking, but rather in response to her listing off buffs. In other words, they had (or were pretending they had, not sure which) no idea what she was talking about, and/or was asking her to dumb it down.
Either way, the PLD was either trolling or had never read their skills and was remarkably clueless as a result.

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Just met a summoner in Lost City of Amdapor Hard who crossclassed Hawk's Eye.

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Originally Posted by Fluestergras

Just met a summoner in Lost City of Amdapor Hard who crossclassed Hawk's Eye.

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Can you elaborate? From what I understand spells can miss just like attacks can, DoTs that deal damage with initial hit also can and at level 50 you can have 5 cross classed abilities, Blizzard II Bind duration is shorter by 12 seconds compared to Tri-Bind but the AoE hit has more potency and is around the player so I think I'd take Hawk's Eye. I'm no expert tho, just seemed strange to me.

To be fair, as SMN, once you get past Raging Strikes and Swiftcast, your cross-class skills are already into the "situational" territory, and for that fifth slot, you only have a choice between Hawk's Eye and Surecast

Didn't think of the 100% hit rate Hawk's Eye give you... but I doubt that this summoner did as Hawk's Eye was the only crossclass skill they used...

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Originally Posted by Cluebilly

One time I joined an A6 run in progress. The other 7 members were at the final boss and still fighting, so I had to wait for them. I thought they were gonna wipe, But no, they had the boss down to like 10% and just kept on doing fine. They beat the boss and the loot is distributed. I rolled a 91 on the Midan Bolt...only for another party member to say NO ONE ROLL ON THE BOLT! I uh...I kinda won the bolt, felt terribly awkward and then left. I've never felt so awkward in my life...

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Man you dont have to feel bad really.

If these guys wanted to set their own loot rules they should have set a PF party.

In DF = free for all especially on this kind of temporary filler content. People who managed to reach Midas should be aware of that so no need to feel bad for them.

Basically, more Void Ark fun.

This AST mainly cast Benefic and would stand for extended periods of time, not bothering to assist in DPS when there were plenty of opportunities. The tank was popping proper cooldowns, and this AST wanted him to be unnecessarily topped off. Not only this, they actually wanted me to slow down with my Esunas because they were too slow to cast Exalted Detriment. Issue is, you can't really take your sweet time removing the debuffs when everyone's getting hit because of awkward positioning and the healer has to move around to get to some people. They were too busy dicking around in Alliance Chat to actually do their job.

It was especially bad when people weren't taking care of Pagan's Knot adds.

edit: had to fix some grammar errors.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

Yes ? you are one of the reasons why this community is soo toxic in so many levels.

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Ty for judging me on one comment. Starting to think there may be a pot, kettle meeting here.

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Originally Posted by Selli

I queue for English only. I am a PvPer and the number 1 rule of Frontline queues is to queue in the dominate language of your data center or your queue will never pop. The Duty Finder picks the language before finding the party. So there is no possible way I could accidentally be in a party that was non-English.

I don't understand where this non-existent language barrier is coming from. I'm speaking English right now, fluidly, and 100% of my posts are in English. If he didn't speak English, why would he have said, "You're not even speaking English"? If he didn't understand English, there would be no reason to make that remark, nor would I have understood the remark if he had said it in another language. Everyone present in that party spoke English, which is why I quoted things said in English. No one even used the auto-translate functions. The PLD was just being cheeky.

I am going to agree 100% with Ivy on this one. This very accurately describes the situation and I don't understand how it could be interpreted any other way.

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My mistake, sometimes sleepy when I browse the forums so mistook what you're post actually meant. I didn't mean to cause offence by suggesting that you may have queued for languages you did not speak, just listing what could of happened. But as I said I completely read it wrong and messed up >.<

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Wait A6 has auto-clean enrage?

Holy hell. I've seen it go off in A8, but A6? Those are some bad DDs.

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I know right? With so many raises I was fighting on fumes for MP at times. But we did clear and I had a good laugh at the end. It almost makes me want to see if I can get a group to make it to enrage on A5 and 7 now, almost. But I'd rather get my part and move on. ^_^

Tried to catch up with expert roulette before the reset. Didn't end so well.

Got Amdapor HM, like most times. So this shouldn't have been a problem, if only the tank wasn't in such a hurry again. He tried to go for a lockout on the first boss, but 2 of the butterfly mobs getting in. LB1 pop'd shortly after, so I used it on those 2 mobs & boss, but got hit with confusion in turn. Not the best start, but the fight continued like normal after that.

Until both I and the healer can't make it out of his AOE in time and get hit by confusion. We start slapping each other and I end up killing the healer after one of my attacks crits...
We eventually wiped at ~5% with me last. The tank then of course decides to DC out and we abandoned

(I know this isn't a duty finder post but hey)

Joined a Sephi Ex kill group on bard, got to P3 and i have the green de-buff, so i go to the front of the boss and get the tether. I then used repelling shot to get away from the boss and i must have turned by accident cause next thing i know i've fallen off xD I did it once before and got back fine, so thought i'd try again and failed miserably…save to say i won't be doing that again xD

Also did my expert roulette on my sch, got Anti-tower. Was a really good run :D Fast dps, no deaths or mistakes, chatty too. I was dpsing most of the time, adding my dots and what not, while chatting with them. Left with 3 commendations :3