Full Servers; Are you fed up with it?

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Originally Posted by Sonorous

Sweet! I found the SE fanboys apologist thread! I was wondering where it was this whole time.

Let me sum up my thoughts on the matter.

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I 'guess' i could be considered a fan boy, i'm having a lot of fun while in game, but yeah. Just stop the error message and put us in a freaking queue. clicking for so long over and over and over hoping to get put in a queue is really killing any enthusiasm for the game. I've even told people i'm having fun, but to not even consider getting the game until this is fixed. It will just turn them off from it.

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Originally Posted by rabbitzero

I 'guess' i could be considered a fan boy, i'm having a lot of fun while in game, but yeah. Just stop the error message and put us in a freaking queue. clicking for so long over and over and over hoping to get put in a queue is really killing any enthusiasm for the game. I've even told people i'm having fun, but to not even consider getting the game until this is fixed. It will just turn them off from it.

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Believe me, Rabbitzero, I was a fanatical XI player. I adore SE's games. This, however, is just simply wrong. I explained it on another thread. SE had allllllllllllllllll the information they needed to gauge what kind of server loads they'd be dealing with. They had the statistical data and chose to ignore it. Remember, we are playing a relaunch, not a perfectly new game. They knew what to expect, rushed things as to try to turn a buck as quickly as possible and left us to sit here clicking a button to log in for hours. In no way, shape or form is this excusable.

The server congestion is an absolute joke when you can't even queue, SE sold far too many digital copies of the game and kept doing so for a few days even AFTER the problem making it much worse as they're clearly over greedy for money and that's what it all comes down to in the end. Servers cost money, lets run on the minimum amount of servers possible and sell as many copies as possible for the biggest profit and stuff customer satisfaction. After pressure SE finally had to stop selling any more copies at the money as people buying it couldn't play at all when SE knew this was the case, it's entirely SE's fault. They know how many copies are sold via digital download which is most copies of the game sold and they know how many copies are in the stores. They will also have done market research or should have done to determine roughly how many copies would sell. Also they should have had standby servers ready and waiting to launch if things got over busy, it shouldn't take them over a week to do this while people like myself are forced to spend more of my subscription time on here complaining than enjoying the game. Now SE are finally going to add more servers, well it's not for customer satisfaction, it's so they can sell more copies of the game via digital download to make more money.

I still see nothing about SE extending the included subscription time for all the time people haven't been able to play because of this problem, this is the least SE should do and they should have sorted out the queueing system so we at least can play eventually after a wait, getting told to try later is ridiculous when people have PAID TO PLAY! The subscription time isn't free at the moment either, it's included in the price of the game.

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Originally Posted by pjcnet

I still see nothing about SE extending the included subscription time for all the time people haven't been able to play because of this problem, this is the least SE should do and they should have sorted out the queueing system so we at least can play eventually after a wait, getting told to try later is ridiculous when people have PAID TO PLAY! The subscription time isn't free at the moment either, it's included in the price of the game.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/76132

You might want to read that then. Most of the time when people here are going on about things, the news they want is already there.

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/76132

You might want to read that then. Most of the time when people here are going on about things, the news they want is already there.

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You might also want to read it. For those of us with a 30-day trial, they have only given a nice indecisive "maybe". The legacy 7-day trial is being compensated because, well... It's taking them longer than a week to make the game playable for an immense sum of people (and even then, they're still only saying "we'll let you know..."):

"To apologize to our loyal fans who may not have been able to login or create characters during early access and the days immediately following launch, the development and operations teams are currently considering providing all player accounts with an additional seven days to their free trials. This includes non-legacy players from 1.0, who will be given new seven-day free trials. Trial extensions will be awarded after the aforementioned server maintenance on Wednesday. Details on the trial extension, including the extension period, will be released in a separate post as soon as they have been solidified."

Their response to the numerous issues...numerous as they in fact are... is embarrassingly slow. Noone can deny that.

All I want to know is, when are they going to stop rewarding the jerks that stayed logged into the game and never leave, and stop punishing the people who actually log off when they are not playing. How can they not have a feature to take the afk people online in this day and age. It's unheard of. Especially with these congestion problems.

New servers and all, I still wont be able to play with my friends.

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Originally Posted by Feyr

You might also want to read it. For those of us with a 30-day trial, they have only given a nice indecisive "maybe". The legacy 7-day trial is being compensated because, well... It's taking them longer than a week to make the game playable for an immense sum of people (and even then, they're still only saying "we'll let you know..."):

"To apologize to our loyal fans who may not have been able to login or create characters during early access and the days immediately following launch, the development and operations teams are currently considering providing all player accounts with an additional seven days to their free trials. This includes non-legacy players from 1.0, who will be given new seven-day free trials. Trial extensions will be awarded after the aforementioned server maintenance on Wednesday. Details on the trial extension, including the extension period, will be released in a separate post as soon as they have been solidified."

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How many people do you suppose it has to go through just to confirm that they can give players some extra free time?

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/76132

You might want to read that then. Most of the time when people here are going on about things, the news they want is already there.

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1. Not everyone checks each forum regularly, nor should we have to for system-wide issues & updated like this: The client has a facility to provide this information. Don't blame players for not reading or searching when SE isn't putting the information where players would expect it.

2. Even if we get this extension (and as others have pointed out, it's still a "maybe") it's 7 days they're talking about, which is less than the time we will have had these issues by Wednesday (if it's actually resolved then)

3. Giving us back the time lost isn't compensation for these issues, it's just giving us what we already paid for. If they want to compensate us, give us twice the time we lost, or some type of special in game item.

It's been more than 5 hours since I could login for last time. And, it seems like I can only play this game at nights, as for I keep getting error 1017 in the mornings and afternoons...

I would agree that the apology was a nice gesture, however; it was just that a gesture. Yes, there are a lot of people who are rightly angry and upset that they do not have access to a product they paid for. For it to be said that this was unforeseeable, is incorrect. This was foreseeable and correctable. They knew they had a numbers issue during phase 4 of the beta. They could have delayed the launch (as many other companies have done with MMOs in the past) by a few days upgraded capacity and prevented a lot of the disquiet that is happening right now.
The product itself is AMAZING, however; a great product is nothing if the people that paid for the product can't access it. I keep seeing a lot of people defending this as "typical" for a launch/early access; it is not typical. Almost all launches have issues, but those issues are 99.9% game play issues. This is not a game play issue. The game itself is smooth and from all that I have seen thus far (when I can actually access it) bug free. This is an infrastructure issue.
Bottom Line: If you are going to release an MMO in today's atmosphere (one which players have been starved for good, playable games) you need to have the infrastructure to support it. These problems were preventable.
(Had they delayed the launch, yes, people would have been upset; they would have not been as upset as they are now though. People are upset that they can not access a product they have paid for.)

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

How many people do you suppose it has to go through just to confirm that they can give players some extra free time?

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For a company as large as SE, sure the decision will likely have to go through several channels. That sort of decision, especially considering the magnitude of its business impact, should not take a week to solidify.

Also, a follow-up on your original post:

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

So, we're getting new servers, and each server requires several computers to hold all of us in it, and they have been making these preparations for awhile now, they don't happen over night, but some of us apparently think they should be manifested instantly to solve all of our problems, that's fine if you think that way but I would suggest that being high right now isn't helping anyone. Next?

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How long do you think it takes to obtain, build, and test a server? I can purchase as many of whatever parts I would like to for building a computer, server, or better mousetrap on the internet, and have it delivered anywhere in 24-48 hours. From there it takes a few hours to put together (being generous), then another few hours to install all of the related software, updates, etc. "We need time to obtain and setup servers" is hardly a valid excuse for more than 3-4 days; as fully functional hardware/software identical to the original server configuration should take no more than 2 days to test for stability (that's probably being generous as well).

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Originally Posted by promethean

1. Not everyone checks each forum regularly, nor should we have to for system-wide issues & updated like this: The client has a facility to provide this information. Don't blame players for not reading or searching when SE isn't putting the information where players would expect it.

2. Even if we get this extension (and as others have pointed out, it's still a "maybe") it's 7 days they're talking about, which is less than the time we will have had these issues by Wednesday (if it's actually resolved then)

3. Giving us back the time lost isn't compensation for these issues, it's just giving us what we already paid for. If they want to compensate us, give us twice the time we lost, or some type of special in game item.

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If you are posting around on the forum you have no excuse for not reading and/or checking for updates, at some point common sense has to kick in, though I do agree it should be on the client news if it isn't already.
Frankly at this point considering how most people have been acting, you don't deserve the free time, yeah you paid, we all did, that's no excuse for not acting like a decent human being.

Can you honestly say with the time you lost playing from failing to log in, that the hours add up to 7 days?, not including the time you couldn't play due to sleep/school/work/errands etc. etc. No, you can not.
Then 7 days extra time would be more than what you lost in hours, demanding twice that is just a joke, really, as nice as it would be.

Actually I think pretty much all of the notices have shown in the launcher.

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

Can you honestly say with the time you lost playing from failing to log in, that the hours add up to 7 days?, not including the time you couldn't play due to sleep/school/work/errands etc. etc. No, you can not.
Then 7 days extra time would be more than what you lost in hours, demanding twice that is just a joke, really, as nice as it would be.

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Oh, so they're giving us 7 days of total playing time which is deducted based on our log-in/log-out durations, then? Oh, no they're not. Your logic is flawed.

We will have to continue our lives as usual just like for the first 7 days we don't get to use. 7 days were originally provided to legacy members for their use. Regardless of how much of that time they -could- have used in-game, 7 days of access time was provided that, in many cases, could not be used due to issues that were of no fault to the client.

Adding a couple of extra days to this would be a standard customer service practice, similar to how you get a "free small fry" coupon when McDonald's messes up your order. It's a show of good faith to the customer that instills confidence in the vendor of the product in question.

I for one would be rather disappointed to find that a 17 year old shift manager at Mickey D's has a better concept of customer service than the whole of SE's PR and management teams. I'm not alone.

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Originally Posted by GrimsScyth

All I want to know is, when are they going to stop rewarding the jerks that stayed logged into the game and never leave, and stop punishing the people who actually log off when they are not playing. How can they not have a feature to take the afk people online in this day and age. It's unheard of. Especially with these congestion problems.

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Well said, I was about to comment about myself about this. It would have helped the issue immensely if they'd only implement a simple 15 minute auto logout when characters are idle, obviously with a warning message popping up towards the end of this period so if the person is there they can continue playing without being suddenly logged out. It is something that is usually standard and would be very quick for them to do. It is just stupid of SE allowing people to do this.

PS: It's almost midnight in the UK and I still can't get in, half the time I have to reload the entire game as it can't even get the server list for the EU and now can't even get to queue again, got to queue earlier and it still threw me out telling me to wait for an opening after watching the queue go down for about 5 minutes, it really is ridiculous, getting thrown out of the queue to this message shows that it's bugged too, also everyone should at least be able to queue no matter how busy it is. SE should have sorted the queuing out at least and yet don't seem to even be working on it, it's been online for about a week now since early access, it's just not good enough. There should have been extra backup servers available to launch that are built ready and waiting in case of congestion as I said in my previous comment too. I can understand some problems on launch day, but a week later is incompetence. On a good note, SE have done a good job of the game if you can actually get to play as I've not come across any serious in game bugs as yet which is unusual for a new MMO, so credit to them for that, but it's no consolation if you can't play at all and I've spent a lot longer trying to play than actually playing since launch.

PPS: I'm even sometimes getting problems with the lobby server now, it seems to be getting even worse not better.

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

If you are posting around on the forum you have no excuse for not reading and/or checking for updates, at some point common sense has to kick in, though I do agree it should be on the client news if it isn't already.
Frankly at this point considering how most people have been acting, you don't deserve the free time, yeah you paid, we all did, that's no excuse for not acting like a decent human being.

Can you honestly say with the time you lost playing from failing to log in, that the hours add up to 7 days?, not including the time you couldn't play due to sleep/school/work/errands etc. etc. No, you can not.
Then 7 days extra time would be more than what you lost in hours, demanding twice that is just a joke, really, as nice as it would be.

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1. There is a perfect excuse for not going through all of the forums looking for updates. First, the forums have been having their own server & connectivity issues. It has taken 2-3 retries for me to get to pages here for most of the day. Second, it is not the consumer's responsibility to seek information in different places from where SE has previously posted it. Why would I say to myself, "Hey, SE has been posting updates on all this server stuff in the client, but while I'm in the player forums, let me see if they also posted a an update somewhere completely different!" Again you apologize for SE & blame the players when SE should simply have posted this update in the client as well.

2. I assume you're reference to "decent human being" is about others who have been more ferocious in their attacks on SE. Nonetheless, that doesn't negate that both they and the rest of us deserve, at a minimum, to be given extra time to makeup for the time we couldn't play. Again you blame the players in a very inconsistent way over the course of this thread, saying basically that if we're angry, we should calm down because SE is going to extend our time. However, because we're angry, you don't think SE should extend our time. I'm not sure how you reconcile these two things mentally.

3. Your reasoning is off on your argument about 7 days being more than lost play time. Yes, I didn't lose 7 days of total play time because I wouldn't have played 168 hours straight. But neither will I play 168 hours straight in my 7 days of extra time. Your argument is assuming 7 days of normal play schedule lost with 7 days of solid play time-- 168 hours-- given as extra. We both know it won't work like that.

4. I didn't demand anything. I simply noted that compensating customers for a problem in a product and the ensuing frustration shouldn't end with replacing only the exact thing lost. If you go into a restaurant and receive horrible service and burned food, at any decent restaurant... heck even at McDonalds, if there's a major problem with my order, the manager doesn't just say, "Hey, here's the replacement for the fries we spilled all over you." instead, they give you your order at no cost, along with a couple of apple pies to help make up for it. A model of good customer service isn't just to replace a problem product, but to "make it up" to the customer. I'm not demanding SE do the same, just noting that their current promise of "maybe" extra time doesn't live up to that model. Heck, even a free MMO-- Neverwinter-- did this when they had much more minor issues resulting in an 8 hour loss of time.

Honestly, I get it-- You love FF XIV, and you love SE for bringing you such a great game. So do I! However, in your case not only has that love blinded you from admitting that SE has made preventable mistakes, it is causing you to view those of use talking about those mistakes as somehow responsible for our poor experience thus far. It strikes me as an extremely mild form of the mindset that people have in abusive relationships, wherein they say "No, it's my fault I'm abused. I shouldn't make that person angry, and I don't deserve not to get abused. Friends telling me I should get out of this situation just don't understand." But really, it's okay Xiraiya! You're in a safe place! SE can't hurt you here-- their login server has no power over you! ;)

to be fair, I haven't been able to play on my server since I got the game really. and if it is true , that I'll be able to play Wednesday, then I'm not even sure that the 7 free days will cover all of it.

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Originally Posted by Baelrusk

Actually I think pretty much all of the notices have shown in the launcher.

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Yes, yes they have. Pretty much all of them. But not this one: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/76132 Which is the flaw in blaming players for not searching the forums. When every update is posted in the launcher, but then a major update is posted only in a a forum, it doesn't make much sense to blame players for failing to reason that SE might have posted a major service notice update to a non-standard location.

its just completely stupid 3 of the 5 friends that were going to play this with me have deleted their games already the other 2 still cant make characters on my server and I haven't been able to log in since the first day. so good job on the limits so your 20% sales can play and the rest get ready to gut you SE

look at these children from world of warcraft nerd raging after school lmao hahaha:D

Actually OP, they are not dealing with everything as well as a company can.

To have these easily avoidable server issues at relaunch is a joke. Such basic things too like having decent log in queues and log out timers on AFKers.

As for respect, well that is earnt.

You keep believing mate but for me well... Square Enix and Yoshi can kiss my ass. I'm uninstalling and taking my money elsewhere.

I'm sorry, but this kind of error is just unacceptable. This isn't because there is an issue with the servers, this is because there isn't enough capacity to handle the load. There is no limit to idle characters, so people are just leaving their toons logged in whenever they leave so there is no wait. That a major company would make this kind of misjudgement shows a complete lack of perspective towards the popularity of their own title. I work for a living. I do not have much spare time, and that my money has now been wasted on something I cannot use is ridiculous. Adding server capacity will not solve this issue if a limit on idleness is not imposed. I've never experienced this in an online game before. I expect to log on and get kicked off. I expect massive bugs that take over a month to fix. I expect servers to crash for hours on end. I do not expect that the product for which I paid will only take up space because no one at square had the foresight to secure a larger quantity of servers. I almost never post complaints on forums, but there has got to be a place to vent for this type of an issue. That they had so many server issued weeks ago into the early access but haven't solve it might as well be them spitting in their customers' faces. "Yeah, yeah. We will get to it. For now, just sit there and waste your precious spare time clicking. Alternatively, don't click. Don't even play. Cancel your membership and don't come back. If you do that, there will be less traffic and this will solve the server issue." This is the response that it seems we are getting. Why am I wasting my weekend clicking on a menu? If I can't play on my days off, why would I pay for this? You may be content to wait for these issue to be resolved, but this is not how a business should be run. If they cannot fix this within the next couple of days, a full refund should be offered to anyone who wants it. That won't happen though. I am either out my money that I spent, cancel my account, and never play; or I keep clicking and never play. Neither option is appealing. I really am upset at the lack of faith Square has shown in their own franchise that they weren't prepared for this kind of traffic. Until the servers can be opened up, I cannot even complain about any ingame issues. I don't even know what it is like to play the game beyond what I was able to during pre-release. I'd gladly trade not being able to play for a thousand and one in game issues.

I agree Rev.

I understand the server capacity issues. I get that SE is "working on it". But the AFK issue is simply incompetent.

And no, fanbois and fangurlz, SE has not addressed the AFK question, other than to say they are "considering" it but have assigned it a lower priority behind the server upgrades.

That's no answer at all. Who made the decision to not implement this at launch, and why?

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Originally Posted by promethean

Honestly, I get it-- You love FF XIV, and you love SE for bringing you such a great game. So do I! However, in your case not only has that love blinded you from admitting that SE has made preventable mistakes, it is causing you to view those of use talking about those mistakes as somehow responsible for our poor experience thus far. It strikes me as an extremely mild form of the mindset that people have in abusive relationships, wherein they say "No, it's my fault I'm abused. I shouldn't make that person angry, and I don't deserve not to get abused. Friends telling me I should get out of this situation just don't understand." But really, it's okay Xiraiya! You're in a safe place! SE can't hurt you here-- their login server has no power over you! ;)

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Interesting, it's a good game, certainly not the best one I've played in the FF franchise, but you know it's that simple, they put a lot of work into it for an MMO, I bought the Collector's edition, I've been playing it, it's pretty good. The login issues are annoying yes, and it's unfortunate that it happens, but you know there are other things one can do to pass time, all I know is that Square are sorry, and have been letting us know with as much detail as they can about what's going on and how they are going about fixing it.

I can't ask any more than that, I don't see a need to get upset because well it just came out, I played in the Beta, I played in Early Access and I have enjoyed what I played, the issues will resolve themselves and soon enough they'll be a thing of the past, the game isn't going anywhere, my character will be there to be played once the server issues have been worked out.

It's that simple.

So you can be a smartass if you really want to, I can't stop you, but I personally don't understand why everyone who isn't yelling, screaming and/or Bitching and moaning, are labled as Fanboys and blind, just because they don't feel the need to act like they were cheated because they lost a few hours of game play, it's just not that important, I just understand that these things happen, not much we can do about it, I do know however that once the dust clears, I'll enjoy the game I bought, unless server issues somehow break the story and game play.

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Originally Posted by Xiraiya

So you can be a smartass if you really want to, I can't stop you, but I personally don't understand why everyone who isn't yelling, screaming and/or Bitching and moaning, are labled as Fanboys and blind, just because they don't feel the need to act like they were cheated because they lost a few hours of game play, it's just not that important, I just understand that these things happen, not much we can do about it, I do know however that once the dust clears, I'll enjoy the game I bought, unless server issues somehow break the story and game play.

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But you see, I didn't label you as a fanboy. However, you are doing more than simply not complaining/yelling/screaming-- you are denying that players who are frustrated & angry have a right to that anger, that it is an incorrect response to making a purchase and being denied the use of that purchase according to the terms set forth by the vendor. I did say you seemed blind to-- or at least very reluctant to admit that SE made preventable mistakes. I stand by that, not as an insult to you, but as an observation.

Fundamentally though, your posts convey a sense that you just don't think it's alright, or reasonable, for people to feel differently than you do about all of this. That your approach to it is the one correct way. I simply disagree with you on this point. And note that I have done so without screaming, or raging with ALL CAPS, etc., despite your implicit characterizations of those that disagree with you as all kinds of irrational raging trolls lacking in basic human decency.

I applaud the persons who don't mind waiting. I also agree that the game is amazing. What little I've been able to play has already surpass my expectations for the ingame experience. I don't care about the lost free days, nor do I think that Square's apologies aren't sincere. However, everyone has a good point. The fact that we can't experience the amazing content is a problem. The AFK issue can be fixed in one update which could be implemented in less than a day. If they don't know how to do that, then Square has a lot bigger issues than the server problems, like finding a decent programming engineer. I mean, if every other MMO has that, how come this one doesn't? I've already requested a refund for this game. If I get it then I will laud Square for their good business sense. If not, then I know I won't play beyond my subscription (if I ever log in) and I won't support square in the future either. You all have really good points. Like I said, I think it is great that there are people willing to wait. I am not one of those, nor am I going to be compensated in actual time. That would just be impossible. Since time is the only thing I really value, there is no benefit for me to wait. I have another game coming out Tuesday that I would rather be playing; and without the bonding time of this weekend towards this game, I won't give it a second thought in the coming months.

I don't think that people who are angry are wrong. I can't log either and I really wanna play.

Still, what we're basically saying is that square ARE working on it right now, so there's no use to talk about it over and over again. They know it, they are working on it. They know we are not satisfied. THEY KNOW. So I think we can just chill out and either ask for a refund, or wait for around wednesday-ish to see if they fix it and eat a sandwish.

Were all on the outside looking in and DUH we know how to fix the problem. At launch in beta, before beta no one I new thought this game would do this good now.

Fed up? Lol been playing mmo's for sometime now and all have problems here and there. I play on 2 servers JP and NA and have been playing every day.

Hey I understand you dont want to wait so quit and come back in a week or two. HAHA its a game man I think I can handle a wait for hours or days..

It actually angered me more that there were (predictably) people here on the forums ready to tell me that I should not be angry or frustrated at SE. I also felt insulted that some people had the gall to tell me that I should be GRATEFUL to SE for working on the issues...that they are responsible for in the first place.

I honestly just came on here to get some technical support, but this thread really kind of pissed me off.

As I just said, I know those thread usually get sidetracked and start to get personnal. But in the first place, I don't think anyone wants to tell you (or anyone else) that you shouldn't be mad. Actually, we're all a little bit mad inside of us. We just try to chill down.

What we are basically saying, is that there is no need to start hundred of topics about that all the time. This post was basically saying to thread starters that yes it's frustrating, but its getting fixed, so they know it's wrong, so please stop starting new threads about that.

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Originally Posted by Bimkoblerutso

It actually angered me more that there were (predictably) people here on the forums ready to tell me that I should not be angry or frustrated at SE. I also felt insulted that some people had the gall to tell me that I should be GRATEFUL to SE for working on the issues...that they are responsible for in the first place.

I honestly just came on here to get some technical support, but this thread really kind of pissed me off.

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no offence but that is on you if you get mad at post here

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Originally Posted by Fafarian

As I just said, I know those thread usually get sidetracked and start to get personnal. But in the first place, I don't think anyone wants to tell you (or anyone else) that you shouldn't be mad. Actually, we're all a little bit mad inside of us. We just try to chill down.

What we are basically saying, is that there is no need to start hundred of topics about that all the time. This post was basically saying to thread starters that yes it's frustrating, but its getting fixed, so they know it's wrong, so please stop starting new threads about that.

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Naw, I'm with you. I was really just responding to the OP and the handful of individuals that rallied behind him to begin with.

Honestly, I've been through this so many times that there's no reason for me NOT to expect issues like these. They still anger me though, and forums are always the best place to vent with everyone else that's angry.

Do I like the game? Yes.

Do I understand that many MMO launches have such problems? Very much so.

Will I be playing this game when possible? Absolutely.

Will I thank Square Enix for fixing all these problems so I can actually do said third thing?

Ha. No.

I paid for a service. I cannot use that service. They still have my money. I still don't have that service. I'll be happy when things are sorted; but I still have every right to reach across the table and slap them across the face when things simply don't work.

I appreciate the support I received last night through chat with the mistake I made with my Service Account. Collectors Edition at that. That was thanks well-deserved for helping me out of my idiocy.

This? This is just irritating and everyone has the right to complain about it.

Lol great post, I can't help but feel bad for SE. With the amount of people complaining they must be under a lot of stress. I myself have been through many MMO's and their open betas. The problems are all the same, some more so then others. In the end all you have to have is a little patience. I want to badly play myself, only having to play a few hours since actual full release kind of sucks. Every time i actually manage to get passed 1017 and get to the queue, I get booted out with another 1017 (lol). But you know what? I'll continue to wait it out because I think it is worth it. I've already considered paying past my free trial. Just think, when this is all over, how much more happy will you be when you actually get to play without problems :)

how many years does it take to properly prepare for a game release?

PPPPPP Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

current error for me now is 2002....

before i was fine , except servers were full and i was redirected to server list(s) , without being put into a queue.

has nothing to do with my isp or firewall or anything else, cause i've been online consistently in another mmorpg i play, without ANY dc's.

hoping these issues are fixed soon, would like to actually get to play today , meh

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Originally Posted by Pawneeskidi

how many years does it take to properly prepare for a game release?

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Apparently X+1 years, X being the number of years SE prepared for this game release. :p