Island Sanctuary

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Originally Posted by Reaver1236

People need to realize this is basically what is replacing Eureka/Bozja. This is a HUGE decrease in depth and breadth for exploratory content.

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Is that actually the case or is this just another case of assuming? I heard the new PotD/HoH will be dropping for EW so I assumed that was going to replace Bozja/Eureaka. That is if the criterion dungeons don't fill that. Why did anyone assume the IS would be anything other than a side trip you do between other content, lol? If you were expecting Harvest Moon or an MMO to not throw in another timegate then you were just setting yourself up to be upset, lol.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Is that actually the case or is this just another case of assuming? I heard the new PotD/HoH will be dropping for EW so I assumed that was going to replace Bozja/Eureaka. That is if the criterion dungeons don't fill that. Why did anyone assume the IS would be anything other than a side trip you do between other content, lol? If you were expecting Harvest Moon or an MMO to not throw in another timegate then you were just setting yourself up to be upset, lol.

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It's not a direct replacement for Eureka/Bozja, but it's taking some of it.

Technically it's the equivalent of the Ishgard Restoration, but utilising the exploration content of Eureka/Bozja. You coukd claim Diadem as the equivalent but that was recycled content, in terms of resources, it's Eureka/Bozja.

However the a Relic content will be seperate, and the levelling content will be provided via a new Deep Dungeon.
So you can say that this time round they've taken Bozja/Ishgard Restoration, broken it up and put them back together in a different arrangement.


As for what Island Sanctuary actually provides the game that's novel, I'd say that it's basically the Limited Jobs equivalent of crafter/gatherers, with a neat new animal farming and minion environment thrown over it.

At the pace you get the blue tokens, I'll forget all about Island Sant.

The timegate/big-grind wall hits you out of nowhere. The first 5-6 sanctuary levels go by smoothly, but then at 6-7 you have very little blue cowries left so you can't expand the island willy-nilly and you need rare materials to renovate your facilities, which is another timegated effort. It caught me totally off-guard. So it becomes the waiting game, or the '' go gather materials for hours and hours in a loop in one place that is the most efficient to farm, only to spend your entire day gaining one level but you aren't really rewarded with anything so why bother '' game.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

The timegate/big-grind wall hits you out of nowhere. The first 5-6 sanctuary levels go by smoothly, but then at 6-7 you have very little blue cowries left so you can't expand the island willy-nilly and you need rare materials to renovate your facilities, which is another timegated effort. It caught me totally off-guard. So it becomes the waiting game, or the '' go gather materials for hours and hours in a loop in one place that is the most efficient to farm, only to spend your entire day gaining one level but you aren't really rewarded with anything so why bother '' game.

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This is exactly it. And everyone who is begging to differ, kinda tells me they didn't run full speed into that wall last moment. God forbid they got excited over the outfits you could get too and spent their tokens buying that, not knowing you need 1k per expansion. I spent hours the other night leveling from one rank to the next, thinking "surely with how long it takes to level you'll get a decent handful of tokens once you rank up." Nope. You get diddly squat.

I would have rather the Island been a new form of the Diadem and something to actively help crafters/gatherers.

This is reminding me of the coffee labeled extremely hot which people proceed to chug down or spill on themselves. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

This is reminding me of the coffee labeled extremely hot which people proceed to chug down or spill on themselves. :rolleyes:

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I think you've finally earned a spot on my ignore list on the forums. You rarely have anything useful to say and seem to prefer sitting around tossing out thinly-veiled insults and rolling your eyes at those who aren't fangirling over everything SE.

Still waiting for that quote where SE said we shouldn't expect engaging gameplay from them. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

This is exactly it. And everyone who is begging to differ, kinda tells me they didn't run full speed into that wall last moment. God forbid they got excited over the outfits you could get too and spent their tokens buying that, not knowing you need 1k per expansion. I spent hours the other night leveling from one rank to the next, thinking "surely with how long it takes to level you'll get a decent handful of tokens once you rank up." Nope. You get diddly squat.

I would have rather the Island been a new form of the Diadem and something to actively help crafters/gatherers.

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Yeah, the game becomes unbelievably stingy with rewarding you with cowries, thus making the whole '' let me go absolutely ballistic with my grind so I can level up the sanctuary with just gathering '' feel inane because leveling up the sanctuary at a certain point just means more timegated junk you need to do and more cowries you need to have to expand. So why bother grinding when I'm not rewarded with anything? Oh, I can go gather new materials and can craft 1-2 more items, cool, neat, whatever.

Three-four full instances of doing Diadem will at least give you max skybuilder's scrips so you can buy a mount reward.
Two weeks of doing the ShB-EW daily/weekly hunts every day will net you enough kupo nuts to get the big mount reward, plus it's an excellent addition to leveling levels 70 to 90. And you get some gil as well.

Island Sanctuary on the other hand, it just feels like I'm loosing time, materials and cowries that I could've just used to buy the cute shorts and get out lol.
What Island Sanctuary needs is a daily/weekly quest system that rewards you cowries, experience and/or materials. That would be a good first step.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

The timegate/big-grind wall hits you out of nowhere. The first 5-6 sanctuary levels go by smoothly, but then at 6-7 you have very little blue cowries left so you can't expand the island willy-nilly and you need rare materials to renovate your facilities, which is another timegated effort. It caught me totally off-guard. So it becomes the waiting game, or the '' go gather materials for hours and hours in a loop in one place that is the most efficient to farm, only to spend your entire day gaining one level but you aren't really rewarded with anything so why bother '' game.

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they said from the get-go that island sanctuary would be slow progress and while you can power grind island exp by gathering materials out in the wild, ultimately you'd get the same result but with far less effort by doing the content as intended, which is harvesting materials from your animals and fields daily/weekly, sending out your mammet gatherers, and making products that sell for chunks of cowries and exp (more if you pay attention to the trends and make several items from the the categories in high demand).

Island Sanctuary is designed to be a long term super casual activity with little bearing on the outside world beyond glamours, mounts, etc.

This min-maxing mentality is what's going to end up burning you out on it because it wasn't built to function that way.

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Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford

they said from the get-go that island sanctuary would be slow progress and while you can power grind island exp by gathering materials out in the wild, ultimately you'd get the same result but with far less effort by doing the content as intended, which is harvesting materials from your animals and fields daily/weekly, sending out your mammet gatherers, and making products that sell for chunks of cowries and exp (more if you pay attention to the trends and make several items from the the categories in high demand).

Island Sanctuary is designed to be a long term super casual activity with little bearing on the outside world beyond glamours, mounts, etc.

This min-maxing mentality is what's going to end up burning you out on it because it wasn't built to function that way.

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Funnily enough, it being timegated like this, as it sounds, won't matter to a player like me. Long term super casual is fine by me. I can barely be asked to log in to games to get the daily reward, and I spend most of my day afking if I am playing this game. I might grind it a bit for the hairstyle, and if I like anything else though.

Question oh wise Islanders, how do I know when crops are done? Does an arrow show in gather mode? or is it something else?

Also, how do I get more than 3 tools? is it level related?

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

Question oh wise Islanders, how do I know when crops are done? Does an arrow show in gather mode? or is it something else?

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They'll turn all shiny and then you can use the Gather mode to collect 'em. Same with the animals....took me awhile to figure out that I needed to gather from them once they started sparkling. lol ><

Bit of a minor thing, but it'd be nice if the orchestrion didn't reset when you leave/log out, or at least let you save a playlist like normal. It also still says "play in Estate" when selecting a song which probably wasn't intended.

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

Question oh wise Islanders, how do I know when crops are done? Does an arrow show in gather mode? or is it something else?

Also, how do I get more than 3 tools? is it level related?

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it'll sparkle like the gathering spots do out in the wild and can be harvested in gathering mode. Also, be sure you are checking on your animals at least once a day because they produce materials once per day at reset (1am PDT)

And yes, tool unlocks are related to your island sanctuary level.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Funnily enough, it being timegated like this, as it sounds, won't matter to a player like me. Long term super casual is fine by me. I can barely be asked to log in to games to get the daily reward, and I spend most of my day afking if I am playing this game. I might grind it a bit for the hairstyle, and if I like anything else though.

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And that's totally fine. You aren't the one complaining about things not progressing fast enough in content that was designed to take weeks or months to finish 100%.

danka danka

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Bit of a minor thing, but it'd be nice if the orchestrion didn't reset when you leave/log out, or at least let you save a playlist like normal. It also still says "play in Estate" when selecting a song which probably wasn't intended.

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i'd also like it if the music didn't stop when you leave the hideaway and switch back to the island music. what's the point of having it if you have to sit at your base to hear it?

if they combined that with the music playlist, it'd be a massive QoL improvement.

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

Yeah, the game becomes unbelievably stingy with rewarding you with cowries, thus making the whole '' let me go absolutely ballistic with my grind so I can level up the sanctuary with just gathering '' feel inane because leveling up the sanctuary at a certain point just means more timegated junk you need to do and more cowries you need to have to expand. So why bother grinding when I'm not rewarded with anything? Oh, I can go gather new materials and can craft 1-2 more items, cool, neat, whatever.

Three-four full instances of doing Diadem will at least give you max skybuilder's scrips so you can buy a mount reward.
Two weeks of doing the ShB-EW daily/weekly hunts every day will net you enough kupo nuts to get the big mount reward, plus it's an excellent addition to leveling levels 70 to 90. And you get some gil as well.

Island Sanctuary on the other hand, it just feels like I'm loosing time, materials and cowries that I could've just used to buy the cute shorts and get out lol.
What Island Sanctuary needs is a daily/weekly quest system that rewards you cowries, experience and/or materials. That would be a good first step.

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I bought the shorts on a male alt because it's about time guys get cute shorts LOL. Little did I know I was gonna stunt myself from being able to get a third workshop, pasture expansion, or windmill lol

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

I bought the shorts on a male alt because it's about time guys get cute shorts LOL. Little did I know I was gonna stunt myself from being able to get a third workshop, pasture expansion, or windmill lol

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IS Savage unlocks by trying to look cute too soon. ;)

has anybody figured out the best way to maintain joy in the animals?

Do I need to feed them with tier 2 and tier 3 food CONSTANTLY, or just once per day?

20 animals, 40 crops per day?

Takes 2 days to grow things, so I'd need 80 spaces worth of crops?

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

has anybody figured out the best way to maintain joy in the animals?

Do I need to feed them with tier 2 and tier 3 food CONSTANTLY, or just once per day?

20 animals, 40 crops per day?

Takes 2 days to grow things, so I'd need 80 spaces worth of crops?

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Best food for 20 animals: At 3 food per craft, that's 14 x 2 veggies needed total to make 21 Premium Island Greenfood. You get 5 veggies yielded per crop, so 6 crops are required total per day. At rank 7 you have 20 crops available. As far as the optimal feeding rotation to keep them max happy I'm not sure.

BTW, don't be like me and spend all your blue tokens on the mammet minion for the lulz. Those need to be saved for expansions.

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Originally Posted by AmamiyaSakura

I've only been playing this for half an hour, but I just needed to tell someone that I love this content so, so much!! The music, the title cards, the dialogue, the gameplay! It's amazing and I love it, thank you so, so much for making this for us!

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I love it, it's very relaxing; i'm trying to take my time with it because i know this is just supposed to be the introduction, and there's more content to be added to it in the future.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Surprised that everybody seems to like it... I probably played about a couple of hours and don't see myself continuing much longer...

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It was a conveniently mindless and easy to interrupt activity I could do while trying to sort out a missing delivery yesterday.

Once I have my island maxed out (at least until the next content update) I only see myself visiting once or twice a week if there are cosmetics I decide I want. Or I'll visit if I've got another occasion to want mindless activity that can be easily interrupted.

It serves the intended purpose - something low stress to do when you need a break.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Bit of a minor thing, but it'd be nice if the orchestrion didn't reset when you leave/log out, or at least let you save a playlist like normal. It also still says "play in Estate" when selecting a song which probably wasn't intended.

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I agree here. Also would be nice if it had a bigger range. As it is right now, you can't even hear your selected track through all of your settlement.

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Finally got back on the game tonight, I must be in a good mood lately, but I find it fairly enjoyable so far, for what it is. Also, I love the Island Explorer boots. The gloves can probably go well with certain themed glams too! Like machinist. Hat doesn't work. I like how they made pants AND shorts available. The minion will be mine, but first thing for me will be the hair.

Yes, I really am just in it for the rewards. :p

I just collected almost all rare animals on my pasture, only twinkly and other missing rare animal left :)

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Best food for 20 animals: At 3 food per craft, that's 14 x 2 veggies needed total to make 21 Premium Island Greenfood. You get 5 veggies yielded per crop, so 6 crops are required total per day. At rank 7 you have 20 crops available. As far as the optimal feeding rotation to keep them max happy I'm not sure.

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So each individual plot is only 1 vegetable? Seriously? That's ridiculous considering how long they take to grow.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Finally got back on the game tonight, I must be in a good mood lately, but I find it fairly enjoyable so far, for what it is. Also, I love the Island Explorer boots. The gloves can probably go well with certain themed glams too! Like machinist. Hat doesn't work. I like how they made pants AND shorts available. The minion will be mine, but first thing for me will be the hair.

Yes, I really am just in it for the rewards. :p

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Juuuust in case you may have missed the warnings, you may not want to jump right into buying the glam/minions/etc right away as those same points are used to expand your island in the next several levels.

I haven't done the math personally, but the cowrie grind could be potentially harder without those first couple of upgrades (which also help you bring in cowries..)

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

So each individual plot is only 1 vegetable? Seriously? That's ridiculous considering how long they take to grow.

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Each of the double mounds of dirt you plant the seeds in and water is what I'm referred to as a crop. Those yield 5 items each even though they show at least twice that many plants growing.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

So each individual plot is only 1 vegetable? Seriously? That's ridiculous considering how long they take to grow.

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5 per plantable/waterable plot, so by the first upgrade of your field you'll be able to plant 10, and get 50 per harvest, which seems to take roughly 2 days to grow?

honestly seems pretty reasonably sustainable, my only real qualm is how without knowing the weather in advance i can't really plan out whether i actually need to go check up on my plants often or not.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Juuuust in case you may have missed the warnings, you may not want to jump right into buying the glam/minions/etc right away as those same points are used to expand your island in the few several levels.

I haven't done the math personally, but the cowrie grind could be potentially harder without those first couple of upgrades (which also help you bring in cowries..)

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I was kind of hoping I could just dump all my money on the hair, but the initial earnings suck. So I have to take the plunge and dump 500 for the first clearing? I gathered my way to the next level so I have the granary building right now as well.

So, I use a produce based food to take the mood up to max for that, and then 6 hours latter, feed again with regular food before the mood shifts, and this lets me maintain top mood without spending produce.

Course this also means 24 apples per day to feed them twice to keep the mood from falling

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Originally Posted by DezereDawn

5 per plantable/waterable plot, so by the first upgrade of your field you'll be able to plant 10, and get 50 per harvest, which seems to take roughly 2 days to grow?

honestly seems pretty reasonably sustainable, my only real qualm is how without knowing the weather in advance i can't really plan out whether i actually need to go check up on my plants often or not.

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crops are very low maintenance. the drying timer is very lenient and it always rains at some point during the day. I haven't touched my crops in at least 24 hours and they're still at 2/3.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Juuuust in case you may have missed the warnings, you may not want to jump right into buying the glam/minions/etc right away as those same points are used to expand your island in the next several levels.

I haven't done the math personally, but the cowrie grind could be potentially harder without those first couple of upgrades (which also help you bring in cowries..)

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Re: people worried about spending cowries

You can get 2,000/week doing challenge log, and several hundred per day via the workshops.
The panic “oh noes I can’t progress” is only a problem if you are in a rush to get it done.

Level 6 now, I should be able to power to level 7 today. At least I can sell crafts that will presumably be worth more with each level up. Really I should keep trying to get through these levels asap, but I need to take breaks inbetween. I think a second monitor or something to listen to like an audiobook or podcast is necessary.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I think a second monitor or something to listen to like an audiobook or podcast is necessary.

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Why would you need a second monitor to listen to something?

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Level 6 now, I should be able to power to level 7 today. At least I can sell crafts that will presumably be worth more with each level up. Really I should keep trying to get through these levels asap, but I need to take breaks inbetween. I think a second monitor or something to listen to like an audiobook or podcast is necessary.

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Don't power through. Get your workshop running, line up those efficiency bonuses and make some currency. 7 unlocks more expansion options for the pasture and cropland, which each cost 1500. More space opens up as well.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Why would you need a second monitor to listen to something?

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Second monitor to watch something on the side.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Don't power through. Get your workshop running, line up those efficiency bonuses and make some currency. 7 unlocks more expansion options for the pasture and cropland, which each cost 1500. More space opens up as well.

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Yeah, but I want the hair, and the pasture upgrade costs 1000, the cropland upgrade costs 1000, demolishing the rocks or whatever to get the next landmark (I presume) costs 1000. I'd be cleaned out!