Information on 1.21 Next week?

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Originally Posted by BigCajonez88

/enters with popcorn and soda

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.... share!

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Oh sweet, we're going down to base insults because all your post are effin ridiculous?

OK, I counter you with: Yer face is a joke.

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I could find the post where you ask me "Are you stupid?"

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

I can't help but ask: Are you stupid?

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Considering that you are the first person to throw around insults, don't you think it's hypocritcal to call me out for "insulting" you after you have done so to me on more than one count?

hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/
Noun:
The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

Edit: you are the one whose posts are fully rediculous, you think that SE should or has some sort of obligation to cater to your every whim because you are so freakin bored of this game or because the patch information hasn't been released yet, or yet again because the patch itself isn't implemented yet. Yet you STILL cannot find any proof that SE has commited to releasing ANYTHING on ANY SPECIFIC DAY.

Even SE's Roadmap is JUST THAT: A ROADMAP. It is used to give them a sense of timing and direction, but they aren't going to fire personnel forbeing unable to release information based upon a projection of the time it MIGHT or COULD take them to complete something.

Get over your self Vackashken. You are so full of self pride and self worth it's unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

.... share!

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None for you!...You are the show :p

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Originally Posted by Matsume

I could find the post where you ask me "Are you stupid?"

Considering that you are the first person to throw around insults, don't you think it's hypocritcal to call me out for "insulting" you after you have done so to me on more than one count?

hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/
Noun:
The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

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No, that was a question based on the absurdity of your retort. I wasn't actually calling you stupid. I was simply curious. though, as this thread goes on, and the laughable justification you come up with go on, I suppose you're answering that question.

See, thats a clever way of getting my point across. If you need a more dumbed down version you'll understand: Yer face is stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8qG...eature=related

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Originally Posted by BigCajonez88

None for you!...You are the show :p

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I'm always the blasted show!

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Originally Posted by MizoreShirayuki

Patch is coming out on Thursday, March 1st... All of the non-lettered patches & non-emergency patches always come out on a Thursday.

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It's March 8th, close though!

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Oh sweet, we're going down to base insults because all your post are effin ridiculous?

OK, I counter you with: Yer face is a joke.

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Your pixels are a joke.

But seriously:

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

I’d also like to share some info on the release schedule for 1.21. We’d originally aimed for the patch to go live in the second week of February, but after looking over the amount of content and all the accompanying UI changes, localization, balancing, QA’ing, and such, we’re currently looking at a delay of about two weeks. We’re pushing really hard for an end-of-February release, but ask that you wait a bit and keep an eye on the announcements we’ll be making on the forums and in Topics regarding details. (Don’t worry, none of this will have any effect on the version 2.0 schedule!)

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Using "aimed", "about" and "pushing really hard" as a time frame aren't even remotely close to giving a definite, confirmed date. Should they be communicating a little bit more regarding the state/progress of the patch, or perhaps another preview? Sure.

Have lodestone announcements been made at earlier hours? Definitely, but they've also been made later in the day. If nothing is posted later today/early tomorrow then that could be a cause of concern, if you could even call it that much.

First off, in a setting like game development deadlines are really just guidelines. They really are a hopeful guess with, "I think we could have it done by this time." I've worked with programming, something of this scale can have countless things, can and will, go wrong or get delayed. When integrating code from multiple people, you pray nothing goes wrong. Then integrating that code into an already running system, you pray again. It is just the nature of programing. Not to mention the QA and testing of the code. I've debugged 500+ pages of code before, it is a task you want to shoot yourself over. My point being, the timeline they put out, was an educated guess at best.

Why do I bring this up? SE, since Yoshi took over FF14, has made habit of not putting out info until it is ready. We do not get anything until they have if fleshed out and working on a level they are comfortable with. The main issue with FF14 pre-Yoshi was they made promises and put out the plan too early; so when they fell behind they had to ship a bad unfinished product. You saw how well that went for the release of this game. Yoshi has shown he rather delay content than release unfit content.

My guess is, if they haven't put anything out yet, they are still making it worth our time. I rather have a quality product myself. I know we, the FF14 player base, feel entitled to faster updates and patches. We are paying them after all, this doesn't stop development time.

This next patch is huge and is adding a lot of well... just stuff. This 1.21 will determined if players stay or leave. If the job system fails... this game fails. I imagine they want the release of jobs and first two raid made with jobs in mind to be amazing. The job system is meant to bring life and interest back into this game. There is a lot of hype about the job system coming out and SE knows it. I can see why they are being quiet and might delay this patch, lots is riding on this patch.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

No, that was a question based on the absurdity of your retort. I wasn't actually calling you stupid. I was simply curious. though, as this thread goes on, and the laughable justification you come up with go on, I suppose you're answering that question.

See, thats a clever way of getting my point across. If you need a more dumbed down version you'll understand: Yer face is stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8qG...eature=related

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Are you really trying to hide your insult by masking it with a question mark?

Just because it's a question does not mean it isn' an insult, and there you go again continuously insulting me. As if I care.

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Originally Posted by Impulse

Your pixels are a joke.

But seriously:



Using "aimed", "about" and "pushing really hard" as a time frame aren't even remotely close to giving a definite, confirmed date. Should they be communicating a little bit more regarding the state/progress of the patch, or perhaps another preview? Sure.

Have lodestone announcements been made at earlier hours? Definitely, but they've also been made later in the day. If nothing is posted later today/early tomorrow then that could be a cause of concern, if you could even call it that much.

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Proof positive that you are indeed wrong Vack, there is no doubt about it. Less QQ more PewPew.

And oh em gee, you are sooooo clever and sooo kewl, my wit will nevar compare to thee. I pity you.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Are you really trying to hide your insult by masking it with a question mark?

Just because it's a question does not mean it isn' an insult, and there you go again continuously insulting me. As if I care.

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Seemed like a question worth asking. Because in that post you gave me the most bone-headed answer you could. So I was wondering if you were that dumb or were you trying to be dumb.

Seemed warranted.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Edit: you are the one whose posts are fully rediculous, you think that SE should or has some sort of obligation to cater to your every whim because you are so freakin bored of this game or because the patch information hasn't been released yet, or yet again because the patch itself isn't implemented yet. Yet you STILL cannot find any proof that SE has commited to releasing ANYTHING on ANY SPECIFIC DAY.

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My wants for updates and pointing out their terrible track record in this farce is whimsical? Thats strange. I had no idea it was ridiculous for us to want more ferquient updates that so many other games have down pat. I mean 1.21 is suppose to be thier saving grace at this point - wouldn't they want to showcase it more? Wouldn't they want to filter out to their dying community "Hey guys look at this cool stuff"

Instead you're like SE is under no obligation to blah blah blah.

Actually, they do have an obligation to me if they want my money. Just like everyone else.

Their marketing strategy has been abysmal from day 1.

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Get over your self Vackashken. You are so full of self pride and self worth it's unbelievable.

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Wow, you must be a psychologist or something. I had no idea that myself and so many others who thinks they've screwed up again are self absorbed.

Oh wait I'm not at all. I'm just a paying costumer.

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Originally Posted by Klive

First off, in a setting like game development deadlines are really just guidelines. They really are a hopeful guess with, "I think we could have it done by this time." I've worked with programming, something of this scale can have countless things, can and will, go wrong or get delayed. When integrating code from multiple people, you pray nothing goes wrong. Then integrating that code into an already running system, you pray again. It is just the nature of programing. Not to mention the QA and testing of the code. I've debugged 500+ pages of code before, it is a task you want to shoot yourself over. My point being, the timeline they put out, was an educated guess at best.

Why do I bring this up? SE, since Yoshi took over FF14, has made habit of not putting out info until it is ready. We do not get anything until they have if fleshed out and working on a level they are comfortable with. The main issue with FF14 pre-Yoshi was they made promises and put out the plan too early; so when they fell behind they had to ship a bad unfinished product. You saw how well that went for the release of this game. Yoshi has shown he rather delay content than release unfit content.

My guess is, if they haven't put anything out yet, they are still making it worth our time. I rather have a quality product myself. I know we, the FF14 player base, feel entitled to faster updates and patches. We are paying them after all, this doesn't stop development time.

This next patch is huge and is adding a lot of well... just stuff. This 1.21 will determined if players stay or leave. If the job system fails... this game fails. I imagine they want the release of jobs and first two raid made with jobs in mind to be amazing. The job system is meant to bring life and interest back into this game. There is a lot of hype about the job system coming out and SE knows it. I can see why they are being quiet and might delay this patch, lots is riding on this patch.

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Wow, Vack, look at that, another Forum Poster that agrees with me? You might as well call them a White Knight in order to discredit anything and everything they have to say. While you are at it why don't you ask them if they are stupid too?

So SE delayed the notes of delaying the delayed patch?

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Wow, Vack, look at that, another Forum Poster that agrees with me? You might as well call them a White Knight in order to discredit anything and everything they have to say. While you are at it why don't you ask them if they are stupid too?

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Why would I ask if he is stupid? He hasn't quoted me and if he did I would imagine he wouldn't give me one of your meaninglessly droning answers that had nothing to do with what I was saying.

OMG!? he agrees with you? Wow, thats bizarre because I thought forums were all uniform instead of a collage of yes men. You've yet again blown my mind. Maybe I should point out people who agree with me and after that we could meet behind K-Mart and have a bought of fisticuffs.

You are outstanding.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Seemed like a question worth asking. Because in that post you gave me the most bone-headed answer you could. So I was wondering if you were that dumb or were you trying to be dumb.

My wants for updates and pointing out their terrible track record in this farce is whimsical? Thats strange. I had no idea it was ridiculous for us to want more ferquient updates that so many other games have down pat. I mean 1.21 is suppose to be thier saving grace at this point - wouldn't they want to showcase it more? Wouldn't they want to filter out to their dying community "Hey guys look at this cool stuff"

Actually, they do have an obligation to me if they want my money. Just like everyone else.

Their marketing strategy has been abysmal from day 1.

Oh wait I'm not at all. I'm just a paying costumer.

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100% Subjective and oppinionated.

Honestly Vack, you are getting what you pay for. You aren't paying for the promise of a future patch. You pay for the game in it's current stage. If you are not happy with it, end your subscription and come back when the game contains the content you so wish to pay for. No where is is said that in exchange for 10 dollars a month, you will be deliviered a patch in time. This is your warped way of looking at it. Stop with the nonesense already.

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Originally Posted by Laf

So SE delayed the notes of delaying the delayed patch?

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Yup, but they also delayed the announcement of delaying the notes of the delayed patch.

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Originally Posted by Klive

First off, in a setting like game development deadlines are really just guidelines. They really are a hopeful guess with, "I think we could have it done by this time." I've worked with programming, something of this scale can have countless things, can and will, go wrong or get delayed. When integrating code from multiple people, you pray nothing goes wrong. Then integrating that code into an already running system, you pray again. It is just the nature of programing. Not to mention the QA and testing of the code. I've debugged 500+ pages of code before, it is a task you want to shoot yourself over. My point being, the timeline they put out, was an educated guess at best.
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Wish people would understand that...

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Originally Posted by Matsume

100% Subjective and oppinionated.

Honestly Vack, you are getting what you pay for. You aren't paying for the promise of a future patch. You pay for the game in it's current stage. If you are not happy with it, end your subscription and come back when the game contains the content you so wish to pay for. No where is is said that in exchange for 10 dollars a month, you will be deliviered a patch in time. This is your warped way of looking at it. Stop with the nonesense already.

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Actually, we're ALL playing for a future patch. Are you seriously implying the state of the game is anything less then sad? Correct, it doesn't say for 10 bucks a month you will be delivered, blah blah blah, crapola. However, this is the real world we're dealing with. If your product is lacking and you (as in SE) keeps saying give us more time we promise it will be good - sadly I am going to see what I am investing in.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Actually, we're ALL playing for a future patch. Are you seriously implying the state of the game is anything less then sad? Correct, it doesn't say for 10 bucks a month you will be delivered, blah blah blah, crapola. However, this is the real world we're dealing with. If your product is lacking and you (as in SE) keeps saying give us more time we promise it will be good - sadly I am going to see what I am investing in.

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yea, a lot of people payed 6 months in advance using SE's time frame as a guideline. I don't care about the delay as much as the lack of info explaining the delay.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

yea, a lot of people payed 6 months in advance using SE's time frame as a guideline. I don't care about the delay as much as the lack of info explaining the delay.

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Thats my biggest gripe in all reality. Delays happen. Its understandable. What isn't is the total lack of thought they put into their marketing.

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Originally Posted by shane239

I'm not missing the point in any way Velhart! I understand that people want info on when the patch is coming out! You think I dont. I'm just saying that I'm sure Yoshi has his reasons for not telling us. People would rage a whole lot more if Yoshi released something like "Patch in 5 days!" then half a day later "Sorry guys had another fatal error and have to push the patch back another 2 weeks!"

My point was people need to relax! Chill! Good things come to those who wait!

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Then he needs to come out and say something. I cannot find a good reason the developers can't come out and say we are delaying the patch, or at least acknowledge us. We pay monthly for this game now, and in doing so, I expect better service, and so far it has been pretty bad in terms of communication. They don't even need to give us a date, just say "something".

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Then he needs to come out and say something. I cannot find a good reason the developers can't come out and say we are delaying the patch, or at least acknowledge us. We pay monthly for this game now, and in doing so, I expect better service, and so far it has been pretty bad in terms of communication. They don't even need to give us a date, just say "something".

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we pay monthly doesnt mean they are required to give you guys daily updates though

we have had 6 updates this month so far, thats 6 in 21 days, thats an update on average every 3-4 days

and thats slow?




the entitlement in this thread is getting out of control, no game will ever give you what you want yet you obviously expect them too, several other games woulda probly banned you people from the forums by now for the sheer retardedness of your whiny demanding posts

You know what Vack? You are right, I am wrong. SE has totally left us in the dark, with barely an update once every two weeks. Would you ever be so kind as to accept my sincerest apologies:

Hamlet defense update. 02-17-2012

We were able to get a few more questions answered about the upcoming inns! 02-17-2012

Inns 02-15-2012

Food and Medicines Revamp 02-15-2012

World Mergers 02-15-2012

World Mergers 02-14-2012

Private Player Residences 02-14-2012

World Mergers 02-14-2012

World Mergers 02-13-2012

Videos of New Raids 02-11-2012

World Mergers and Character Transfers 02-10-2012

World Mergers and Character Transfers 02-09-2012

Exp Bonus 02-09-2012

Leve Adjustments 02-09-2012

HQ Craft Changes 02-09-2012

Random Horse Lore 02-09-2012

Revamping HQ 02-08-2012

Voice Chat 02-08-2012

Guild LEve Plate Lore 02-07-2012

AF Underwear 02-07-2012

Accessory Reforms 02-07-2012

Test Servers 02-07-2012

Updating old content 02-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Matsume

You know what Vack? You are right, I am wrong. SE has totally left us in the dark, with barely an update once every two weeks. Would you ever be so kind as to accept my sincerest apologies:

Hamlet defense update. 02-17-2012

We were able to get a few more questions answered about the upcoming inns! 02-17-2012

Inns 02-15-2012

Food and Medicines Revamp 02-15-2012

World Mergers 02-15-2012

World Mergers 02-14-2012

Private Player Residences 02-14-2012

World Mergers 02-14-2012

World Mergers 02-13-2012

Videos of New Raids 02-11-2012

World Mergers and Character Transfers 02-10-2012

World Mergers and Character Transfers 02-09-2012

Exp Bonus 02-09-2012

Leve Adjustments 02-09-2012

HQ Craft Changes 02-09-2012

Random Horse Lore 02-09-2012

Revamping HQ 02-08-2012

Voice Chat 02-08-2012

Guild LEve Plate Lore 02-07-2012

AF Underwear 02-07-2012

Accessory Reforms 02-07-2012

Test Servers 02-07-2012

Updating old content 02-03-2012

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i only thought of lodestone posts themselves but yeah, they give us lots of info

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

we pay monthly doesnt mean they are required to give you guys daily updates though

we have had 6 updates this month so far, thats 6 in 21 days, thats an update on average every 3-4 days

and thats slow?




the entitlement in this thread is getting out of control, no game will ever give you what you want yet you obviously expect them too, several other games woulda probly banned you people from the forums by now for the sheer retardedness of your whiny demanding posts

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your right, people are outta control

Most of those links have nothing to do with 1.21 and some of those are just "wait for 2.0!"

But good job wasting your time collaborating all that for nothing.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

your right, people are outta control

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they also already explained we had roughtly a 2 week delay
yet its been barely a week after mid feb is over and poeple assume the worst cuz you havent been catered to with daily updates on its progress

as i said, massive entitlement

1 week > 2 weeks therefore its been delayed more am i right?

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Originally Posted by Matsume

You know what Vack? You are right, I am wrong. SE has totally left us in the dark, with barely an update once every two weeks. Would you ever be so kind as to accept my sincerest apologies:

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Boy, thats an exciting list you got up there. I feel totally pumped! In particular the link you put about new videos that were promised... oh wait they're not here yet. No new videos. No new pictures. No new anything about things that are actually relevant and would make the player base hyped to keep playing and actually come back.

Hey, quick question! Where can I get some of those rose tinted glasses you're wearing?

Way to put up another wall of crap.

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Originally Posted by Vexerus

Most of those links have nothing to do with 1.21 and some of those are just "wait for 2.0!"

But good job wasting your time collaborating all that for nothing.

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Its his shtick.

Christ people are whiny. It's not like anyone should be even expecting the patch until next week at the earliest. And we have been getting information, maybe not a deluge, but it's hardly been a dry spell. If we see nothing at all by the end of the week I could see getting antsy, but this is utterly stupid. It's like a bus full of children crying "Are we there yet?" every 2 minutes.

I pay to play this game in its current state and love it. If the patch were to be delayed another month I would still play it. People are too concerned about things like patch notes to sit back and enjoy the work SE has put in the game the last 8 months. It's sad that the majority of the player base accepts the game and it's schedule, but the minority is always louder, right?

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Originally Posted by Matsume

You know what Vack? You are right, I am wrong. SE has totally left us in the dark, with barely an update once every two weeks. Would you ever be so kind as to accept my sincerest apologies:

Hamlet defense update. 02-17-2012

We were able to get a few more questions answered about the upcoming inns! 02-17-2012

Inns 02-15-2012

Food and Medicines Revamp 02-15-2012

World Mergers 02-15-2012

World Mergers 02-14-2012

Private Player Residences 02-14-2012

World Mergers 02-14-2012

World Mergers 02-13-2012

Videos of New Raids 02-11-2012

World Mergers and Character Transfers 02-10-2012

World Mergers and Character Transfers 02-09-2012

Exp Bonus 02-09-2012

Leve Adjustments 02-09-2012

HQ Craft Changes 02-09-2012

Random Horse Lore 02-09-2012

Revamping HQ 02-08-2012

Voice Chat 02-08-2012

Guild LEve Plate Lore 02-07-2012

AF Underwear 02-07-2012

Accessory Reforms 02-07-2012

Test Servers 02-07-2012

Updating old content 02-03-2012

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Yup, thats alot of info, anyone crying that we are not well informed is a complete idiot.

As a matter of fact, I pay a monthly fee, therfore my demand should be obeyed.

I demand the idiots crying and making false claims that we are not being informed, get a 3 day ban.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Yup, thats alot of info, anyone crying that we are not well informed is a complete idiot.

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most of that info has nothing to do with 1.21, just sayin

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Originally Posted by Naelle

It's sad that the majority of the player base accepts the game and it's schedule, but the minority is always louder, right?

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You're gunna have to justify that statement from the droves and droves of people who have left the game. Seems as though the majority did speak - and didn't accept the answer they got, so to speak.

Could yesterday being President's Day have anything to do with no new info on the Lodestone? Either way, I can wait for new info.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

most of that info has nothing to do with 1.21, just sayin

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what do you want them to tell us? we already know all of the content to expect from the update.

Just sayin.

My God, are you two still arguing?

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Actually, we're ALL playing for a future patch. Are you seriously implying the state of the game is anything less then sad? Correct, it doesn't say for 10 bucks a month you will be delivered, blah blah blah, crapola. However, this is the real world we're dealing with. If your product is lacking and you (as in SE) keeps saying give us more time we promise it will be good - sadly I am going to see what I am investing in.

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In the real world, if you go to a store and buy a bag of chips for 5 bucks and once you get home and open the bag of chips you see that it was half full of air, there is no way in hell the store manager is going to refund you because "it was lacking". SE is not telling you to buy a futures stock option trade. You are paying for the game in it's current state ether you choose to admit it or not. The patch will come, but that is not what you are paying for. You can convince yourself that the only reason you have payed for these last two months is because you expect the patch to come out in a week, but those are your assumptions and your expectations and not SE's empty promises. At the end of the day, if you don't like the half empty bag of chips, don't buy them again. But you better not think that the company owes you a bag of chips with 10% more just because you are a "paying customer".

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

yea, a lot of people payed 6 months in advance using SE's time frame as a guideline. I don't care about the delay as much as the lack of info explaining the delay.

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Honestly, what difference would an explanation make? None. You should understand that these patches require a lot of hard work and time to implement, look over and over and over again, test for bus, fix and repeat. There is no need for an explanation, and many questions have been answered already.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Then he needs to come out and say something. I cannot find a good reason the developers can't come out and say we are delaying the patch, or at least acknowledge us. We pay monthly for this game now, and in doing so, I expect better service, and so far it has been pretty bad in terms of communication. They don't even need to give us a date, just say "something".

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Yet again, SE announced that the patch would be pushed back from Mid February by two months and that they were aiming for End of February as a goal. This is another moot point. You cannot say that SE should do something they already have done. This is rediculous. Should SE get down on their knees and grovel for your 10 dollars a month while they are at it?

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

we pay monthly doesnt mean they are required to give you guys daily updates though

we have had 6 updates this month so far, thats 6 in 21 days, thats an update on average every 3-4 days

and thats slow?




the entitlement in this thread is getting out of control, no game will ever give you what you want yet you obviously expect them too, several other games woulda probly banned you people from the forums by now for the sheer retardedness of your whiny demanding posts

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This. So many people here seem entitled to some slavish response for their 10 dollars a month, this is just sickening. To the point where certain people are willingly insulting others and labeling anyone who disagrees with their self deception and disapointed as White Knights and the like.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

what do you want them to tell us? we already know all of the content to expect from the update.

Just sayin.

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people seem to forget we already got a basic 1.21 patch outline

now we dont have official notes yet, but they recently updated us with everything thats planned to be in it, but i guess that doesnt count either


i want more info as much as the next person, but instead of pining over it im actualy in game playing and preparing, cuz you know, i like to actualy be constructive

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

people seem to forget we already got a basic 1.21 patch outline

now we dont have official notes yet, but they recently updated us with everything thats planned to be in it, but i guess that doesnt count either

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Stop using common sense and logic you fool, you will confuse the whinners.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

You're gunna have to justify that statement from the droves and droves of people who have left the game. Seems as though the majority did speak - and didn't accept the answer they got, so to speak.

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How many people are in this thread whining about patch notes? Lindblum itself has 400-ish people on nearly everyday. There are NOT 400 people in this thread acting like a spoiled kid. There are 18 servers, thus making the whining in this thread minority. Have a nice day, go outside and stop complaining on the Internet.

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Originally Posted by Vexerus

Most of those links have nothing to do with 1.21 and some of those are just "wait for 2.0!"

But good job wasting your time collaborating all that for nothing.

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Most of those links are examples of updates, I don't seem to think it was a waste of time, but you are entitled to your own opinion.