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引用元：Rasylia

They are using the most famous classes & sexes to advertise an event... how exactly is that wrong?

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Take a look at some of FFXI's seasonal event art. It was a nice balance of every race... mind you, there was usually a story being told with the art as well.
For example
https://www.bg-wiki.com/images/f/f8/...-10-2008_0.png

So far FFXIV has focused only/mostly on Miqo'te (and gradually Au Ra) females :T

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引用元：Rasylia

They are using the most famous classes & sexes to advertise an event... how exactly is that wrong?

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It's not "wrong," it's just boring.

Miqo'te and Au Ra are almost (<---keyword: almost) always the focus on every piece of art for every event. Everyone else though? They trot Lalafells and Hyur out from time to time. Sometimes they even remember Elezen exist when it's not Valentione's Day. Femroes? F*** them I guess.

And that's just the women. At times it feels like the guys hardly get any love either. The art for this event could have easily been a couple of dudes bro-ing out in the ocean, but nooope. That would be too different.

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引用元：Nestama

Take a look at some of FFXI's seasonal event art. It was a nice balance of every race.

So far FFXIV has focused only on Miqo'te (and gradually Au Ra) females :T

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Well.....

http://i.imgur.com/zGDCOxl.png

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https://ffxivcensus.com/

It is pretty noticeable that female Miqo'te and Au Ra are seen as the best characters to front nearly every possible campaign while the other races (and all of the men) are used as decorations in the background at best. But I think we already knew that from the way glamour sets are designed.

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引用元：Serilda

It is pretty noticeable that female Miqo'te and Au Ra are seen as the best characters to front nearly every possible campaign while the other races (and all of the men) are used as decorations in the background at best. But I think we already knew that from the way glamour sets are designed.

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See picture 1 page back.

They are releasing glamour for their biggest playerbase, and they advertise events with races & sexes that are used most often.
Anything else would be a bad marketing choice. Please your biggest playerbase & make most of your customers happy this way.

I am not defending it, and i dont say that they shoulnd introduce more glamour for the less often used classes / sexes, nor they shoulnd mix up the used races for advertising, i am just trying to explain why they do it they way they do it.

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引用元：Rasylia

See picture 1 page back.

They are releasing glamour for their biggest playerbase, and they advertise events with races & sexes that are used most often.
Anything else would be a bad marketing choice. Please your biggest playerbase & make most of your customers happy this way.

I am not defending it, and i dont say that they shoulnd introduce more glamour for the less often used classes / sexes, nor they shoulnd mix up the used races for advertising, i am just trying to explain why they do it they way they do it.

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Why wouldn't they just include every race? Does it make the image too large and busy or something?

Rehashed Shisui. Remember when people were saying Stormblood will have triple budget?

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引用元：Rasylia

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I'm aware of the census, I just find it disappointing that other races aren't given the same amount of love. FFXI handled it better as they appealed to everyone and not a single demographic (did I use that word right? I don't use that word often if ever).
https://www.bg-wiki.com/images/9/92/...-18-2009_0.jpg
Buffalo Blitz / Blazing Buffalos

Well if they put female lalafell in that pose it'll be international scandal.

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引用元：SuperZay

Rehashed Shisui. Remember when people were saying Stormblood will have triple budget?

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and remember when yoshida said he want to give the team a break after SB launch?

Huge disappointment for the swimsuits lmao.
They could of easily made Shisui dyeable to begin with...not toss them in an event.
But oh well. Let's look on the bright side and say we got the dyeable ver.
*Sees that's that gloves/headpiece missing*
...Well, see them in Mog! :D

It's a shame they've chosen tank version too. Sets for other jobs are better looking.

Im disappointed that we are already getting a dyeable Shisui but they can't give us a dyable Cascadier =.=

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引用元：SuperZay

Rehashed Shisui. Remember when people were saying Stormblood will have triple budget?

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SE also took away from FF14 income for other projects like 15 KH3 and FF7R but hey we cant all have cake and eat it too :P

It's understandable that one would use the most popular races for advertising from a monetary standpoint. If I were trying to sell FFXIV to a group of individuals, I would most definitely put Miqo'te and Au Ra on a stand.

The fact of the matter is, though, that we're talking about an in-game event that requires no real money transaction (outside of an active subscription) to participate in. Giving some screen time to some of the less popular races will not make players opt out of the event, nor would it make people not want to play/purchase the game itself.

Furthermore, in a game with so much focus on lore, especially with the many different races and how they interact with one another, it almost feels self-defeating to give focus on just a handful of races due to their popularity among players. Hell, one could even argue that the popularity among races could actually fluctuate if more attention was given to lesser-played races.

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引用元：Bishington

Furthermore, in a game with so much focus on lore, especially with the many different races and how they interact with one another, it almost feels self-defeating to give focus on just a handful of races due to their popularity among players. Hell, one could even argue that the popularity among races could actually fluctuate if more attention was given to lesser-played races.

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I really enjoy art a lot, and I don't really like the style of the faces in this art at all...but it does feel a little sad when less loved, races
such as the Roe's are almost no where to be seen. Fem Roes are very beautiful (your character for example)
so I wish they change up the art a bit. :/
I can't remember a Fem Roe in any art.
The Neko's and Lizard Ladies are most popular but the whole "My cute waifu" thing is annoying to see in so much
promotionals lol.

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引用元：Jybril

I really enjoy art a lot, and I don't really like the style of the faces in this art at all...but it does feel a little sad when less loved, races
such as the Roe's are almost no where to be seen. Fem Roes are very beautiful (your character for example)
so I wish they change up the art a bit. :/
I can't remember a Fem Roe in any art.
The Neko's and Lizard Ladies are most popular but the whole "My cute waifu" thing is annoying to see in so much
promotionals lol.

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People (and especially in such huge numbers) play races and genders for various different reasons. Please don't generalize.
Also, art is subjective. Not everyone will / has to enjoy specific things.

Also, the events are not "just" for people who allready play the game. They will be promoted in- and outside of it, on wbesites, facebook, twitter [...] which means a lot of people will get to see it. Good / nice Art with popular races (female Miqo'te) can bring in more customers. So, again, it is a good marketing choice.

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引用元：Jybril

Fem Roes are very beautiful (your character for example)

I can't remember a Fem Roe in any art.

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First off, I appreciate your comment. I enjoy playing a Femroe and finding glamours that suit her.

Secondly, in recent memory, the only Femroes I can recall seeing, and having a prominent place, in official art are Merlwyb and a single generic (and somewhat brutish) Femroe in a countdown image.

It's really no wonder that Femroes are the least played of all the races, especially when they're typically portrayed as ugly, or at best, brutish. Part of me finds this ironic because (and correct me if I'm wrong here), Miqo'te are ruthless hunters as far as the lore is concerned, yet they're typically portrayed as cute, mischievous cat people.

The more I think about this, the more annoyed I get. Why even bother giving us a dyable set of Shisui gear if you're only going to give us 60% of the set?

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引用元：SuperZay

Rehashed Shisui. Remember when people were saying Stormblood will have triple budget?

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Indeed, people that weren't SE were saying Stormblood will have triple budget.

A statement that was "rumoured" to have been said in a JP version of a quarterly report, which never actually showed up in any translated versions of said quarterly report (IE: it was never stated by SE to begin with).

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引用元：Rasylia

People (and especially in such huge numbers) play races and genders for various different reasons. Please don't generalize.
Also, art is subjective. Not everyone will / has to enjoy specific things.

Also, the events are not "just" for people who allready play the game. They will be promoted in- and outside of it, on wbesites, facebook, twitter [...] which means a lot of people will get to see it. Good / nice Art with popular races (female Miqo'te) can bring in more customers. So, again, it is a good marketing choice.

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I didn't say that "Cute waifu" thing towards the players...I'm saying it towards the artist who continue to choose the same races to display as.
The Nekos and petite little female types are obviously popular in Japan...so it's no wonder.
Maybe I should of clarified that since you thought otherwise.

Secondly, I also didn't say it was "only for people who are already playing the game." All I am saying is, it would be nice to dip and give other races
some love. I just like if they were more fair to it. That's all I'm saying. :/
I understand why they do it, but you can still hope. Most fanart are consistently
Miqote and Aura women. Where's everyone else!? Just a little dishearten is all.

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引用元：Bishington

First off, I appreciate your comment. I enjoy playing a Femroe and finding glamours that suit her.

Secondly, in recent memory, the only Femroes I can recall seeing, and having a prominent place, in official art are Merlwyb and a single generic (and somewhat brutish) Femroe in a countdown image.

It's really no wonder that Femroes are the least played of all the races, especially when they're typically portrayed as ugly, or at best, brutish. Part of me finds this ironic because (and correct me if I'm wrong here), Miqo'te are ruthless hunters as far as the lore is concerned, yet they're typically portrayed as cute, mischievous cat people.

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You think that's bad? Xaela are warmongers (More info in MSQ/Azim Steppe) and meanwhile
the meanest person there looks like a tiny, petite anime character that's about 5'2 lol.
She doesn't seem all that intimidating, maybe because of her skin colour?

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引用元：Jybril

I didn't say that "Cute waifu" thing towards the players...I'm saying it towards the artist who continue to choose the same races to display as.
Maybe I should of clarified that since you thought otherwise.

Secondly, I also didn't say it was "only for people who are already playing the game." All I am saying is, it would be nice to dip and give other races
some love. I just like if they were more fair to it. That's all I'm saying. :/
I understand why they do it, but you can still hope. Most fanart are consistently
Miqote and Aura women. Where's everyone else!? Just a little dishearten is all.

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It is a JPN thing it is in there anime aswell, Neko's, cat girls etc.

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引用元：NorthernLadMSP

The more I think about this, the more annoyed I get. Why even bother giving us a dyable set of Shisui gear if you're only going to give us 60% of the set?

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The head piece is my favourite part of the shisui sets, a dyeable one would have been lovely. :(

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引用元：Rasylia

Also, the events are not "just" for people who allready play the game. They will be promoted in- and outside of it, on wbesites, facebook, twitter [...] which means a lot of people will get to see it. Good / nice Art with popular races (female Miqo'te) can bring in more customers. So, again, it is a good marketing choice.

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Events are promoted outside of the game in a fashion that informs current players that they're upcoming, or ongoing. Perhaps I'm wrong, and I'll rightfully admit to being so if that's the case, but I've personally never seen FFXIV marketed directly through a seasonal event. Sure, there could very well be a group of people that would be willing to try FFXIV because they saw some Miqo'te butt on the front page of the website, but I'm fairly certain that those numbers are on the dismal side and could very well be considered negligible.

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引用元：Bishington

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Shockingly, the very first Seasonal Event of FFXIV has a female Roe in it... and every other (female) race.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/m...fire_Faire.png

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引用元：AmalahRose

The head piece is my favourite part of the shisui sets, a dyeable one would have been lovely. :(

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Agreed. I'm big on complete sets and this idea of leaving out two pieces of the set makes me sort of not even want to bother with it.

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引用元：Faeon

It is a JPN thing it is in there anime aswell, Neko's, cat girls etc.

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Exactly. So no surprise that the Neko's are poster girls for everything.
Kinda reminds me of TERA, but the Loli's rule the world in that game...

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引用元：Nestama

Shockingly, the very first Seasonal Event of FFXIV has a female Roe in it... and every other (female) race.

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This art is lovely. It's been so long ago that I've seen this lol.
They should do this again, and add male characters of all races
for a real beach party. :)

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引用元：Nestama

Shockingly, the very first Seasonal Event of FFXIV has a female Roe in it... and every other (female) race.

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Man, it's been a long time since I've seen that image. I had completely forgotten about it. The Femroe there also looks great in the sense that she's not portrayed as a brute. It's too bad that she's not in a more prominent position in that image, but for what it's worth, I would love to see more portrayal like that.

If they want to expand their userbase they should mix things up a little to lure in more demographics. With Heavensward, Elezen went from basically extinct on my server to a (niche) option more people tried out. With MMOs, seeing a cool portrayal of a particular race/gender combo increases interest in it whereas when people are showered with imagery of sexy catgirls in underwear all of the time, that becomes their idea of what's normal. I have nothing against sexy catgirls in underwear in particular, but I do like a bit of visual diversity in the artwork from time to time. The most recent calendar did a good job of this. The Maelstrom Roegadyn beach party artwork made the purchase worthwhile all on its own.

Well, I don't really mind. My room has enough pictures of the goddess Merlwyb in it to dilute the cutesy promotional art poster furnishings nicely.

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引用元：Krotoan

http://i.imgur.com/wkH95h1.png

alright.. it's in the picture. Miqo'te butts are coming back. Yeah!

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I'm probably setting myself up for disappointment here, but does this imply we are also getting a dyeable version of the Summer Morning swimset?

There's no dyeable swimsuit mentioned. Which is weird in itself; I'm genuinely astounded no dyeable Cascadier-style swimsuit exists in the game yet, especially on release for the water-themed expansion (Shisui sets notwithstanding). Friends who started after the old swimsuit events often remark on how mean the game's swimsuit options seem to be.

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引用元：SokiYagami

While I agree with the part where SE (and some players) should accept criticism, but to be fair, there's quite a bit of work going into creating the new skills and re-balancing of class/pvp in SB too. Whether those effort pay off is another topic though. At the end of the day, the seasonal events usually alternate between "good" and "bad" rewards. If you find this one "bad", just hope the next one is better I guess?

On a side note, was there ever any seasonal event that received so much backslash before it even launch? (Well there's the youkai event but that's a cross-over event instead.)

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I just question why we need so many "events" if its so taxing to create good unique items for them? Why not make it four events per year (each for a season) with a nice small quest line with a bit of story but otherwise lots of stuff to farm for. You know Rift is a F2P game thus you have lots of stuff in their cash shop but still their summer event is truly a event unlike most of our events in FF14. (It is my first one in Rift so not sure how the others are going to be) You can still earn quite a lot of prices through ingame methods and you have them back next year thus new people can try this too.

In the end SE focused on story again when they do their events and often forget the gameplay after that. All the work that they have put into the cutscenes could have been put into ingame items. And if they on top of that put the old rewards back to the NPCs so that new people could get them ingame too, you would have way "bigger" events with more stuff to do. My first summer event in FF14 was the one with the many many swimsuites..If you wanted them all you had to deliver quite the items but it was fun. The same with stuff like the crime scene in the gold saucer event which was less prices but the journey to it. Compare the last gold saucer event to that.

Or just the halloween one with the spooky mansion. That was so funny.

(Also they create more and more housing items for these events...while most people dont even own houses..>_>)

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引用元：Skivvy

I'm probably setting myself up for disappointment here, but does this imply we are also getting a dyeable version of the Summer Morning swimset?

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I would assume you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Think it's just going to be Zoni, Rolanberry Shaved Ice and/or the fireworks/cracker thingies.

If the really wanted to be lazy about making costumes for the event, they'd have better luck making past costumes obtainable again. But of course SE's priority is the mogstation, not the game itself.

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引用元：Twinsoul

If the really wanted to be lazy about making costumes for the event, they'd have better luck making past costumes obtainable again. But of course SE's priority is the mogstation, not the game itself.

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They sort of did...this is below the Event Items on the page dedicated to the faire:

* Certain items available during previous iterations of the event can be purchased via Moonfire Faire vendors.

Based on where it is located under the current event items, it quite possibly could just be for the non-gear items being available.

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引用元：YISUG

if its colourable then thats good in a way , will save them from receiving requests for a colourable ver of it

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It won't save them from me. This is one version (and IMO the ugliest one) of the Shisui gear. It does not excuse them from making dungeon gear dyeable.

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引用元：YISUG

and remember when yoshida said he want to give the team a break after SB launch?

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You're kidding yourself if you think this wasn't all completed before SB launch.

I saw the costumes and they are horrendously ugly, just like when they first came out. I always hated the Shisui set.

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引用元：Avatre

* Certain items available during previous iterations of the event can be purchased via Moonfire Faire vendors.

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It's probably just the fireworks.

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引用元：amihavingfunyet

I would assume you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Think it's just going to be Zoni, Rolanberry Shaved Ice and/or the fireworks/cracker thingies.

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I will keep only the tiniest shred of hope ;)

Dyeable Shisui gear. Really, SE? That's the best you got? They probably don't go to the beach much. >.>