Dear Yoshi P: What is your vision?

Maybe there is a big picture, but SE are yet to articulate it. And if it's to be deduced from the myriad of quotes all over the place, then the direction seems really shallow and hardly attractive at all.

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Originally Posted by User201109011315

http://www.mmoculture.com/2011/07/ch...ew-on-mmo.html
http://www.betacake.net/2011/08/arch...-songs_03.html

He actually gives a "big picture" for what the MMO should be like. Rather than just saying "we might add this thing here" and "cut this feature here" "just because".

GW2 devs are the same. If you just go to their main site, they release huge articles about their features and why they decide to implement features in that specific way and how it will make their game a success.

Yoshi's just like "yeah let's just implement this because someone complained". There's just no big picture. sorry.

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Well golly it's not Yoshi's fault that he has to go through and fix the previous producer's problems.

Hey looky here, here's an interview that talks about Yoshi's plans for the future (vision) for this game.

Hell there's another another interview that Reinheart translated from that FFXIV gaming book. You should go read it, also Azury should too because all the info you guys want is out there in the interviews.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

Great leaders are often great visionaries, working towards an idealistic goal.

Right now many people have taken a break, or are playing less, waiting to see if the game becomes something that appeals to them. Currently, the future of this game is somewhat unknown.

Thus, I think it is appropriate to ask you to answer a simple question:
What is your vision for this games future, be it 1 year or 2 years, or even further down the road?
If you could magically re-design the game the way you want overnight, how would it look and feel? Would there be lots of dungeons? lots of giant roaming monsters? what would the average journey be like? etc.

Please just tell us what direction you would like to see the game go in, so that some of us can decide whether to start playing again and prepare, or wait a bit longer and see what changes come.

You don't have to commit to anything. It would just be nice to see how you envision the game in the future, even if it ends up being nothing like that. Just so we can have -some- idea as to what to expect.

Thank you.

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1st, from my own experience (Figaro server) i see more and more people playing lately, but it might be different for other worlds.

2nd, as for Yoshi-P's vision, as he said before he wants FFXIV to become the FF7 of mmos. I'm glad we have him in charge as not only is he a great developper with a great career ahead of himself, he's also a big gamer and mmo player. He said it himself, he does play or used to play a lot of mmo out there... IMO only a person who has experienced MMOs first hand can understand what needs to be done and how to go about making a good mmorpg.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Well golly it's not Yoshi's fault that he has to go through and fix the previous producer's problems.

Hey looky here, here's an interview that talks about Yoshi's plans for the future (vision) for this game.

Hell there's another another interview that Reinheart translated from that FFXIV gaming book. You should go read it, also Azury should too because all the info you guys want is out there in the interviews.

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Fixing the previous producer's problems how? and which ones? and why? People perceive different things as problems and have different solutions. This requires vision to filter perceived problems, and I simply don't see any vision in the recent decisions, sorry to say.

As for all those interview, they don't say anything worthwhile other than "let's add some content and dumb down the game" and then some vague allusion to a "conductor approach" and something about "making the game less grindy" without specifying how.

And saying "you can do whatever and there'll be heaps of content" doesn't inspire confidence when I see them destroying more than they are creating.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Well it sucks that you can't read and comprehend the information that's given to you. Anyway I'm done with you, later! (at least in this thread)

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I told you! You can poke him with informative sticks all day long and he's still as dumb as a rock!

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

1st, from my own experience (Figaro server) i see more and more people playing lately, but it might be different for other worlds.

2nd, as for Yoshi-P's vision, as he said before he wants FFXIV to become the FF7 of mmos. I'm glad we have him in charge as not only is he a great developper with a great career ahead of himself, he's also a big gamer and mmo player. He said it himself, he does play or used to play a lot of mmo out there... IMO only a person who has experienced MMOs first hand can understand what needs to be done and how to go about making a good mmorpg.

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Most people have played an MMO, not all are cut out to be directors.

Yoshi's philosophy of adding lots and lots of content might come back to haunt him considering their current production rate. I mean, he says there'll be lots to do, but I don't see much to do in the upcoming patches unless you count boring sidequests and a dumbed down standard-bash crafting system with no depth. I don't know... such is life I guess.

I mean, everything we've got so far is expected content anyway. Like, this is what any producer would be giving us as MMO players. But Yoshi is a special case because not every director would also ruin crafting and the armory system and have no vision beyond that. Which is what stimulates discussions like this. People want to be able to see the master plan, but can't.

"So like, we want to add lots of content so everyone will have something to do, and like, we probably won't have as much quests as SW:ToR and it won't be voiced either like SW:ToR or Guild Wars2 or TERA or Blade&Soul, and like, players will be able to play with eachother, even though we will deemphasise community by downplaying the player-run economy, and like, the quests won't be dynamic like GW2 or Secret World, and your character won't speak during cutscenes like in SW:ToR, but like, hopefully it will all work out in the end, even though we intend to undermine the armory system which is our flagship feature... oh and maybe you can like swim too? But we will see about it, even though Aion, GW2, ArcheAge, TERA and B&S all already have swimming too. So like... our game will be better than everything else because it's just like everything else but without voiceovers and stuff... and we are kind of slow at releasing content too... so we hope everyone enjoys the game even though it might not release the contents very fast."

*popcorn*

"No one is less ready for tomorrow than the person who holds the most rigid beliefs about what tomorrow will contain."
— Watts Wacker

that's right, i used a quote to seem intelligent :p....:cool:

I wouldn't get comfy with that popcorn, I've had him on ignore for hours now with no intention whatsoever to ever remove him from ignore. This way I cannot see his posts and so will not reply to them :P

However should you want a response for your quote:

I hold a rigid belief that FFXIV is only going to get better
Userhalfamillionstupidnumbers has a rigid belief that the game will only become more and more broken
I would win however, and I also have the rigid belief that he is 1: wrong in his belief and 2: too stupid to realise it

This is how religion works 9 times out of 10.

This was just posted by Yoshi-P, maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the next letter.

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このポストを皮切りに、数日かけて幾つかのポストを行いますが、
FFXIVと現世代MMORPGについて、吉田の考える根本的な方向性を
次回レターにて記載させて頂く予定です。レター公開後は、そちらも併せてお読みください。
……とはいえ、現状の作業状況を考えるとレターはパッチ1.19公開直前になりそうです。
その間、パッチ1.19の進捗は、ご要望頂いている、動画にて公開予定です！
Starting this post I will make several posts in the next few days, but I would like to post in the next letter about how I see overall direction of FFXIV and current generation MMORPG. Please read through that also once the letter is released.
....but saying that, with current work load the letter most likely going to be right before patch 1.19 release. Up til then, we are planning to release the requested video which shows the progress of 1.19

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

This was just posted by Yoshi-P, maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the next letter.

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Yay! I will anticipate this.

Edit: it's so funny he posted that today of all days. Coincidence I think not.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

However should you want a response for your quote:

I hold a rigid belief that FFXIV is only going to get better
Userhalfamillionstupidnumbers has a rigid belief that the game will only become more and more broken
I would win however, and I also have the rigid belief that he is 1: wrong in his belief and 2: too stupid to realise it

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actually my quote was pertaining to the position of the producer and the idea that having vision is a necessity.

the first producer HAD vision. his long-term ideals were over-complicated and unrealistic.

Yoshi-P is less of a visionary and more of a doer. He is responsive to current situations and adapts his ideas to fit current situations, which seems to be getting a better outcome.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

This was just posted by Yoshi-P, maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the next letter.

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Post this on every thread on the 1st page of this forum (b'.')b

That'll shut those whiners up.

Perhaps Yoshi really was listening?

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

that isn't a vision so much as saying "you can do everything any way you want". And further the game said that @ release even when it wasn't true. I'm hoping for an actual description of Eorzea. Not just a vague statement. Vague statements will not get people interested in the game. A description of a besieged-type constant-war between Ishgard + Dravania might. Or even saying "A year from now I see Ishgard open, and a new mission-line being implemented to go with it" might make people interested.

Put in simple terms, if people will look at this game, SW KOR, GW, etc, what about this games future will make them think "that sounds awesome". As opposed to the way people think now which is "hmm.. i hope they fix that"

What makes a game special isn't the same as a vision.

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Because you decide what constitutes a valid vision.

No. Simple as that.

It takes a lot of imagination to play Final Fantasy XIV.

very happy this post may have played a part in getting some answers this month.it is well needed and looking forward to all the things we learn. .

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

This was just posted by Yoshi-P, maybe you'll find what you're looking for in the next letter.

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It sounds like I will, really can't wait.

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Originally Posted by User201109011315

Yay! I will anticipate this.

Edit: it's so funny he posted that today of all days. Coincidence I think not.

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Somehow I think you hold your opinion in too high regard. This whole thread has just been bickering for the sake of it.

These forums are all about bickering.

Thanks for this. Can't wait for the worthless fluff.

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Originally Posted by pwnguin

Somehow I think you hold your opinion in too high regard. This whole thread has just been bickering for the sake of it.

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I don't and it hasn't.

Yoshi-P: I'm looking into it...

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

Yoshi-P: I'm looking into it...

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good post (b'.')b