Is anyone annoyed by the HUGE number of people using bots on this game?

I'm tired of the LalaRMT. They're everywhere, Camp Horizon, Camp Skull Valley, and more. They just sit in one spot for hours so one person can get the party buff.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

would be kinda like getting arrested for wreckless driving while sitting on your living room couch and the police using the excuse "well you were not speeding, driving drunk, or even in your car, be we are going to arrest you anyways"

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And if me getting arrested for DUI while sitting on my couch got rid of all the drunk driving in my state I would gladly be the collateral damage

i think i hate the bots less then SE way of fighting them/not fighting them. Instead of activly fighting them (they are very obvious) they create one barrier after the other affecting mainly the few remaining players.
And they still hold on to their strategy even though its more then obvious that it failed so hard that its not even funny anymore. They game (if it will ever recover) will have a huge bot/rmt problem. But perhaps well get more restrictions then, perhaps "logging on for 1hr/day only" lol that would be a very SE way of implementing that anti rmt feature...

Yes, I hate bots and I hate the leve exploits. The exploits have ruined the game more then the bots have.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Yea play for more than a week and the puzzle pieces will start slotting themselves in for you. You want proof? why the heck would the OP be lying exactly? think for a second what could he possibly benefit from a lie like this?

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an rmt in this game would focus on materials and not on gear, theres not much gear available and materials and crystals sell very good. Stupid idea to think they would bother with gear mainly... they control a lot of the crystal market already i bet and a lot of the material section. The additional "mass-lalafell" money increases the money every day as well.

Honestly I hope once they have fixed the game and release the ps3 version, they also open a new server. They will have more time to focus on botting and everyone can start again if they wish.

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Originally Posted by viion

And where does the rare item come from? You're complaining that you dont want to put effort in yet you're complaining about those who dont want to put effort in. There wasnt a single item in XI I couldnt really get unless it was like Novio because my friends just were not skilled or never tried the NM, I even got a kraken which was mega rare, how did I get it? BCNM. Just keep trying and everytime I didnt get it, I would stockpile the gil go farm and try again. It took a long time yes but I got it and didnt need to cheat but I knew people who rmt'd to get it, and what did I do? Nothing, we went n killed bunch of shit n had fun cuse im not jealous nore do I care!

Yes they did make mistakes in XI, such as stupid spawn times, stupid item obtain rules, and their solution was Abyssea where you can solo to get most of everything and gil is absolute useless and XIV is doing the same exact thing, small spawn timers and everything being rare/ex

SE are not going to follow the same path and even if they did, you can still go get it. If you want to complain that it takes long to get something, then cheat lol otherwise you're playing the wrong game! This is a long time game.

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Gotta know...

Are you just playing devil's advocate here?

Or are you seriously defending and/or justifying botting?

If so... well... in light of what rampant botting did in FFXI.. it's pretty ridiculous that you're actually arguing for it... or, at the least, dismissing it as "no big deal".

But I see where your argument comes from "If it doesn't affect me, then it doesn't affect anyone else and everyone should mind their own business".

You keep challenging people's reasons for not wanting it in the game, as though they have to justify it to you, or it's bogus. Hate to break it to you, friend, but you're on the wrong side of the argument here, however you try to spin it.

The rules support those against botting, not for it. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here by defending it.

Do you, perhaps, partake in a bit of botting yourself and that's why you're so adamant about defending it? I mean, you're making some of the same classic arguments for it that admitted botters make, all essentially boiling down to "the game forces me to!", or "It doesn't affect anyone else, so it's none of your business!". You have the same sort of offensive/defensive response, challenging others to justify to you why they should care...

I always find it curious when people, like yourself, seem so determined to defend something that you - supposedly - "don't care about". Yet, you have posted several retorts here, essentially defending it, arguing that people should "mind their own business" and let it happen. Seems like an awful lot of personal investment for something you care so little about to post several times on the topic.

And here's another take on it.. If it means so little to you, fine. But then why should you care if other people would prefer not to see it happening around them? Why do you care what they think? What has you all hot and bothered about it that you feel compelled to argue against the people who would like to see the botters removed? What personal investment do you have in it?

If it doesn't matter to you either way, then why do you care if it does to others?

On Lindblum there are two lalafell alchemist bots.

While I do not have difinitive proof that they are bots, I can say they have been there for over 2 months in the same spot ranking up the same craft using rank 1 gear.

One is on the left side of a shop, the other on the right.

Besides those two obvious ones I haven't seen THAT many people doing what I would call obvious botting.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

Gotta know...

Are you just playing devil's advocate here?

Or are you seriously defending and/or justifying botting?

If so... well... in light of what rampant botting did in FFXI.. it's pretty ridiculous that you're actually arguing for it... or, at the least, dismissing it as "no big deal".

But I see where your argument comes from "If it doesn't affect me, then it doesn't affect anyone else and everyone should mind their own business".

You keep challenging people's reasons for not wanting it in the game, as though they have to justify it to you, or it's bogus. Hate to break it to you, friend, but you're on the wrong side of the argument here, however you try to spin it.

The rules support those against botting, not for it. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here by defending it.

Do you, perhaps, partake in a bit of botting yourself and that's why you're so adamant about defending it? I mean, you're making some of the same classic arguments for it that admitted botters make, all essentially boiling down to "the game forces me to!", or "It doesn't affect anyone else, so it's none of your business!". You have the same sort of offensive/defensive response, challenging others to justify to you why they should care...

I always find it curious when people, like yourself, seem so determined to defend something that you - supposedly - "don't care about". Yet, you have posted several retorts here, essentially defending it, arguing that people should "mind their own business" and let it happen. Seems like an awful lot of personal investment for something you care so little about to post several times on the topic.

And here's another take on it.. If it means so little to you, fine. But then why should you care if other people would prefer not to see it happening around them? Why do you care what they think? What has you all hot and bothered about it that you feel compelled to argue against the people who would like to see the botters removed? What personal investment do you have in it?

If it doesn't matter to you either way, then why do you care if it does to others?

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You should reread my posts. I'm metely saying peoples reasoning is flawed and im sick of the innocent people getting banned out of other peoples bullshit reasons and reports.

I'll be against botters when you provide a valid reason

Who needs proof that someone bots when you can just make blind accusations. Just cause someone has a lot of 50s doesn't mean they bot. This seems to be the forums mentality on bots - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g