XIV's loot system is so alt-unfriendly it's absurd.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

The real problem isn't that people would leave, it's that people would stay subbed and complain here for months because they played for 10 or so hours a day to get their BiS in one week and now have nothing to do.

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Imagine the situation if there was no unofficial ladder via that site that gives funny color rankings. The need to even have BiS is partially due this site existing, as without parses nobody would care about numbers to get gear and extra runs to improve them.

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Originally Posted by Somnolence

Imagine the situation if there was no unofficial ladder via that site that gives funny color rankings. The need to even have BiS is partially due this site existing, as without parses nobody would care about numbers to get gear and extra runs to improve them.

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I like-uh to press-a da buttons, animation-woosh, see big number, big smile desu-ka honto-ni dattebayo anime stuff *big nod*. That's all I want BiS for... well that and doing roulettes, farming Extremes and Fates faster if I cared to do those. Unfortunately this feels more hollow then ever due to Job simplifications making reaching big number easier and shallow and implementation of Auto-Crits that for some reason isn't' applied to all jobs just selectively a few. No more random big Crits because of some non-issue Issue that never was a Balance issue to clear content? I can go in-depth with how dumb it was on my Job but that's a dead beaten chocobo rant I should not repeat. Hyosho enjoyers... I want my big random Crit to D:< !! *table flips*

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

And then people can rush through gearing everything and spend even more time complaining that they have nothing to do and the game is too casual.

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needless time gates are not content.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

needless time gates are not content.

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true, but this is a sub MMO. the devs have no incentive to make things easier for people to unsub.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

true, but this is a sub MMO. the devs have no incentive to make things easier for people to unsub.

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I'm pretty sure they say they dont care if we have content and should un-sub in between parches.. good try tho...

The issue with time gating in XIV is that it's not done in fun ways. Like you make an event and every 3 days new stuff opens up and things open earlier based on participation, a cool and reasonable way of time gating. A lot of people thought this would have been how they did stuff in Eureka early on back in stormblood. But this would lead to issues for servers where people leave to go to aether for content instead.

XIV also doesnt create enough contentfor time gating to be worth while. Imo, the tier 3 unlock should be done earlier instead of later.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

I'm pretty sure they say they dont care if we have content and should un-sub in between parches.. good try tho...

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Or the devs could just, you know, talk nonsense.

There is often a clear difference between what they say and what they do, housing being the prime example.
But technically they also never said to un-sub in-between patches, they just encouraged you to take a break from XIV and play other games, nowhere in that quote does it say that they don't want your money while you're taking said break.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

I'm pretty sure they say they dont care if we have content and should un-sub in between parches.. good try tho...

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Yoshi P, as a person, may want us to unsub if we're not happy and come back later. SE and their stockholders, on the other hand, want to make profit. Guess who signs the paychecks.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Guess who signs the paychecks.

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the players that are subed because they hope for content, not predatory time gates as bad a wow shadowlands.

its the tax dollar fallacy, you forget the people pay the taxes, whether the goverment extorts it and spends it wastefully is a different question.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

the players that are subed because they hope for content, not predatory time gates as bad a wow shadowlands.

its the tax dollar fallacy, you forget the people pay the taxes, whether the goverment extorts it and spends it wastefully is a different question.

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But unlike taxes, you can just....not pay the sub. (I mean, you can also not pay your taxes, but the IRS (or your country's equivalent) will have something to say about that.) It's a luxury product, not the government. So this comparison doesn't work.