Zenos is... [big fat spoily]

I’ll certainly miss him if he really died.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

To the common person in the street, if they know the world as anything other than "the world" or "the star" it would be only "Hydaelyn", so to suddenlly go around calling it 'Etheirys" to a random person in the street would just grant odd looks.

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But we're not talking to "a random person in the street", we're talking to each other and we understand what the words mean. Everyone in the group of people our character regularly discusses such concepts with has shifted to calling it Etheirys. Why shouldn't we do the same?

Even for a newcomer to the game, if they ask why we're calling it an unfamiliar term, all you need to say is that later on in the game they introduce the term for easier distinction between the two. You don't need to explain where the term came from or why it's significant that we shift from one to the other.

Additionally the "Etheirys" jewellery set comes from the modern-day aetherial sea, not from the ancient world.

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Originally Posted by linayar

I am of the opinion that the new (or older, in this case) name is not necessary because there would be no confusion for the name Hydaelyn moving forward.

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But we're not going to stop talking about Hydaelyn in lore discussions just because she's no longer an active character in the story.

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

It's been stated by Yoshida that he didn't like the direction of Zenos and acknowledges how we felt about it, but all things considering, story wise, Zenos was simply looking for someone worthy of giving him a good death and he got it. I think he is satisfied and can rest in peace.

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Yes, because he should have been dead and gone since his time in SB. Every thing post it was silly imho. He just felt like an annoying yandere boyfriend that demanded our attention and would destroy all the to get it.
Just die already lol.

Zenos should've stayed dead when he off'd himself at the end of base 4.0. Glad he's gone. He stuck around WAY too long imo.

I posted my full thoughts on Zenos in another thread here.

TL;DR, he's served his purpose and bringing him back would undermine it.

It would be kind of cool if they made Zenos into a Trust. <3

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

^This. Zenos is finally dead and gone. It's subtle but

if you watch the scene after the final battle with him (after Zenos and the WoL beat each other up), Zenos's breathing becomes increasingly shallow, and he manages to pant out a final "I....." before cutting out mid sentence. The camera even concentrates on his chest which is subtly rising and falling... before even that stops, showing he's stopped breathing, and then becomes completely motionless from them on. And it wasn't just the injuries the WoL gave him in the battle and their final fitsticuffs either, he was consuming his own life and soul to fight there and even with his Resonant powers, it wasn't infinite, so he was basically just running on fumes by that stage (even after using the last remnants of the Mothercrystal to become Shinryu, I'm sure he was also consuming his own life while in that form as well which would not have helped).

He even outright stated just before his duel that he was going to completely "burn through the candle of his life" in order to go full-out with the WoL, so he basically consumed his entire aether and life in order to have his last glorious final battle, and with his defeat, even his Resonant power couldn't save him anymore, especially at the edge of the universe where they were, where there was no one to jump his soul to, and so he just... expired. The WoL very nearly suffered the same fate except of course they were saved by a deus ex machina (and a lot of healing from Alphinaud, Urianger and G'raha).

So yeah, he's dead, gone and left to rot at the edge of creation, forgotten, unloved and unmourned. Good riddance.

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Go to Ultima Thule and do the Quest of N-7000. And then think about it ;-)

God I hope not

there's no way he's dead. he's came back from the dead before and we all know the devs don't really like killing off characters. i'd maybe believe it if he poofed into aether, but even then we'd probably see his soul again like we did with Emet lol. there's like 3-4 ways/theories of how he can come back. we literally see the man leave his own body, on his own accord, Ascian-style early in EW. not to mention there's multiple plotholes involving him as well as cryptic hints the devs keep dropping.(i won't go into detail here) the last fight/dialogue doesn't even appear to be a fight with a villain, and the devs confirmed he wasn't the final boss at all. rival/antihero arc inc (it's already started lol) it honestly reminded me of a pokemon rival fight.

i won't even get into the voidsent thing here. it's a lot.

oh and they're obsessed with marketing him, look at Cafe Eorzea. in the recent interview they said they don't give merch of characters until they're gone for good (we're getting Emet merch soon) absolutely nothing about Zenos.

the devs also have stated they don't care about a character's popularity when keeping them alive/dead, so the crowd of people who hate him don't really matter.

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Originally Posted by Vyrion

It would be kind of cool if they made Zenos into a Trust. <3

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I honestly want to see more Trusts even for outside of MSQ or just "avatars/spirits"..

Deep down i really fancy the idea of a Zenos trust if you happen to get certain requirements/get all your trust allies to 90 etc