The arrogance of some people

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Originally Posted by RuleofThree

The point? You aren't going to win. This game has a community in which there is no roles anymore - everyone is dps...everyone. Some people agree with this, some don't. Either way, you are going to get bitched at, just do what you are comfortable with, and move on.

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If you are needing to constantly heal the tank to keep him alive most normal people wont mind that you aren't dpsing. What people have a problem with are the ones you see heal, then proceed to jump around the group until the next heal is needed.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Support takes precedence over DPS on Bard, but some people can't understand that.

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Oh so you can raise your parser numbers and then complain that bards don't do enough damage here on the forum, is that it?

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Originally Posted by Andrea

I can confirm tanks do not always need cures. People in this game do not need to be at 100% health, Sounds like you are overhealing which is bad in itself.

No other class in the game gets to stand around afk for 10-20 seconds between spells. Theres a reason healers get so many dps skills.

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Yeah for killing stuff for story or relic, or just if we are by ourselves. We have 2 dps in a dungeon for a reason

I normally don't comment on this subject, but I will this time just to get a point across. Don't ask others too use their full tool kit if you are not willing too do the same. If you have healing abilities use them cause I don't care how much they suck, if you have tank capability then use it if the tanks are down or adds are loose. Cause once again I don't care how fast you will die. There is no excuse for every class not to be using their full tool kit, if your making excuses then you are just as bad as the people you call out NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

As a career tank, let me say something here. Tanks aren't made of glass. We don't just break the second our HP drop below 100%. Tanks are actually damn hard to kill in this game as long as they are using their skills effectively. If your tank is bad or poorly geared then no, you probably will not have time to DPS. But if you have a tank that's actively mitigating damage (to the extent that you can in this game, anyway) why not use that time to do something besides stand there waiting for them to get a scrape?



Wrong. Good healers are prepared for many eventualities, and thus carry items to recoup mana. I make Max-Ethers for my static's WHM. Having the item and not needing it is better than needing the item and only having an empty inventory slot.

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Ethers aren't needed maybe for 8man stuff but 4man just throw it away

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Originally Posted by Venom

when I am bard it bugs me when WHM empties their MP pool with stone 2 or 3 or something then asks for Ballad which lowers my dps by 20%.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Isn't helping healers to do dmg the job of bards?

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brd doesnt have infinite mp if u help the healer with foe, u are draining MP , after both are empty , the healer procced to ask for MP....

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Originally Posted by LazyMemories

Yeah for killing stuff for story or relic, or just if we are by ourselves. We have 2 dps in a dungeon for a reason

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Its got to the stage where I don't know if you're trolling or not.

If you're ok with healers jumping around between heals and being lazy that is fine by me, but I will just continue to deem them as lazy.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

I normally don't comment on this subject, but I will this time just to get a point across. Don't ask others too use their full tool kit if you are not willing too do the same. If you have healing abilities use them cause I don't care how much they suck, if you have tank capability then use it if the tanks are down or adds are loose. Cause once again I don't care how fast you will die. There is no excuse for every class not to be using their full tool kit, if your making excuses then you are just as bad as the people you call out NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

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You seem to be forgetting, I'm a healer if I'm healing I'm doing my job.
If a Dps is slacking which I know they were because hense 40mins in that dungeon don't expect a healer to go all out when dps clealy isn't

You should always carry medicine for whatever job you're on, just in case something goes down and you need them.

Too many people have already stated it, but you seem to wave it off. If you NEED to continuously heal a tank that is dying quickly, then by all means, do so, but not if you're spam healing them at around 80% or above. Don't just stand around and do nothing either, it doesn't take much to switch stance, throw up some DoTs, maybe cast a few spike damage spells. Need to heal quickly but in cast? Just move and change stance as you do and quickly throw up a heal. We don't expect healers to waste all their MP on damage, but enough to actually assist instead of just scratching their asses when they don't have a heal to cast. You may not add that much damage to the entire thing, but you would still make the runs that little bit faster.

I don't need a bard to support me with MP assistance except on really long boss fights, and even then, I can go all-out DPS and heal indefinitely. I would rather they focus on other things. The only time I might run into MP issues - might - is if I keep needing to ress, and if that happens, usually I'm fine just backing off DPS for a little bit.