Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

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Originally Posted by Nestama

None of them have been Second Lieutenants and leaders of an entire Squadron, though (and no adult would be pleased to have a child being their leader/boss. It'd be humiliating).
That's one of my lore issues with children being playable. Another is that it breaks immersion when you see hundreds/thousands of kids running about completely unphased by war, death, corruption and betrayal.

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FF6 had Relm and Gau, ff9 had vivi and eiko, 12 had vaan, penello, larsa, half of the party in 13 were underage ... then there is the older teens like rikku, yuffi, zidane, garnet, ramza...
I'm not advocating for children as playable characters just pointing out how the series has no problems throwing child protagonists on the frontlines... as for children as leaders or fighting in wars look back at some of the child emperors and kings, look at Viking children who would start raiding as soon as their balls dropped... again not advocating...

I mean, I imagine, they brought in the XII bangaa, I can only hope that they would bring in Viera in the same manner. I never saw Viera as some moe-blob-waifus, even back in the FFTA games, soooo all we can do is wait, hope and keep letting SE know what we want.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Unphased? What about the Dark Knight story?

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I'm talking about playable children. Not NPC children.
There's so much stuff in this game that just makes it very difficult, if not, impossible for children to ever be playable.

For example, being drugged in 3.2.

The fact that all the other ff12 races are officially in this world makes me believe we’ll definitely be getting Viera

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Originally Posted by JamiaHaab

The fact that all the other ff12 races are officially in this world makes me believe we’ll definitely be getting Viera

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I thought we'd only seen two so far

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Originally Posted by Alacran

I do hope the male option for Viera height maxes out to that of a female midlander, while female Viera stay more akin to female Roegadyn. Given what they did with AuRa, i say the reverse would be welcome.

An old piece of art i have seen around. I would hope the digitigrade leges/ feet could be added to something like this, aswell as a few more bestial features. (possibly thicker hair on forearms and shins, ect...)
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tekitou_m...a/3a9a1475.jpg

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Where's the tail?

I hope they don’t have tails like in 12. You’d think with most players having tails SE would account for that but nope. The clipping ruins so many gear sets.

the tail is more visible in the middle image! i think the third one is to show the entire back without the coat and without the tail. personally i feel i can take either a tail or no tail... leaning more towards no tail bc we already have 2 races that have them :v

Honestly tail or no tail could be a clan thing.

Right now the two clans introduced with Revenant Wings had differences so minor that SE would need to add some other extraneous detail besides the current ear lengths. (Feol Viera had light skin and blond hair, too, but that would amount to little in a game like FFXIV were hair and skin color is freely selected.)

Although, I would like them to play with the known lore of original Viera finding their Feol cousins revolting and the men and women building completely seperate tribes and avoiding interaction beyond breeding needs.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I'm talking about playable children. Not NPC children.
There's so much stuff in this game that just makes it very difficult, if not, impossible for children to ever be playable.

For example, being drugged in 3.2.

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No I meant the protagonist is clearly not unphased as the whole Dark Knight story is about you having enough of all the crap you have to go through.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

I do hope the male option for Viera height maxes out to that of a female midlander, while female Viera stay more akin to female Roegadyn. [snip]
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tekitou_m...a/3a9a1475.jpg

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As someone who likes it when my character is shorter than other player’s characters. (Without being a Lalafell) I think I’d play one if they did this.

Fun fact: in many rabbit species the females are larger (though not by a large margin) so it would make sense for Viera males to be shorter. But I'd rather the difference be somewhere around 2-4 inches at most, IMO wouldn't make sense for, say a height difference like with male and female Au Ra.

That's my 2 cents on the height discussion.

I would prefer if they end up the same height. I know people want revenge on what happened to au ra but that's au ra's problem.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

I would prefer if they end up the same height. I know people want revenge on what happened to au ra but that's au ra's problem.

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Well we never saw a male Viera so they can look whatever the devs want them to look. Maybe they don't even have rabbit features. Who knows?

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Originally Posted by Alacran

I do hope the male option for Viera height maxes out to that of a female midlander, while female Viera stay more akin to female Roegadyn. Given what they did with AuRa, i say the reverse would be welcome.

An old piece of art i have seen around. I would hope the digitigrade leges/ feet could be added to something like this, aswell as a few more bestial features. (possibly thicker hair on forearms and shins, ect...)
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tekitou_m...a/3a9a1475.jpg

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This is interesting

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Originally Posted by Balipu

No I meant the protagonist is clearly not unphased as the whole Dark Knight story is about you having enough of all the crap you have to go through.

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That's one minor story compared to the rest of the game. I don't think our character even reacted to Thancred saying they had to execute the people tempered by Ifrit.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

I would prefer if they end up the same height. I know people want revenge on what happened to au ra but that's au ra's problem.

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Yeah... though if they can make the males still look like an adult (or at least over 18) while also being short, then I guess that can be alright. Making the males short and childlike while the females are tall and quite clearly adults is just jarring. While female Au Ra's were indeed short, they still looked over 17-18 and taller than Lalafells.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

I would prefer if they end up the same height. I know people want revenge on what happened to au ra but that's au ra's problem.

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This.

My primary preference is for no new playable races to be added to the game until the current batch of playable races receive some much needed updates to their character creation options. As far as the differences between male and female Au Ra are concerned...that is entirely based on Yoshi-P's decision to move away from the concept art for the sake of going with something 'cuter'.

If we do get another playable race then I want the men to be big, beefy and masculine. Not necessarily an outright brute but not overly feminine, short or androgynous either.

I'm on the fence with short Viera guys.
On one hand, it's not something we currently have in race variety, on the other, guys would end up in the same boat girls are with female Miqo'te and Au Ra being similarly built, only with male Miqo'te and Viera.

Thing is, if not Viera men then who? I myself want Viera females to be statuesque and fierce, something i feel is conveyed very well in FFXII. With the fact males have yet to be seen in an FF title (to my knowledge), more room for interpretation exist with their design. The irony of the argument is not lost on me, however the question still needs be asked. If not the Viera males, then who or what would be the acceptable race to have Androgynous or Effeminate males in it?

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Originally Posted by Alacran

If not the Viera males, then who or what would be the acceptable race to have Androgynous or Effeminate males in it?

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Anything original. Seriously, any race that you could possibly come up with can have androgynous males. Plant people? Robot people? hell even something more unique in the same way Au ra was.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

I do hope the male option for Viera height maxes out to that of a female midlander, while female Viera stay more akin to female Roegadyn. Given what they did with AuRa, i say the reverse would be welcome.

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tekitou_m...a/3a9a1475.jpg

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my eb and I would fanta the first day ;w;

Why not have both short and cute Viera AND tall and statuesque Viera? I recognize its alot of work but this race has been highly demanded for years now so it would be in the best interest of everyone to get it right. Choosing between short/cute viera and tall viera should be tied to clan. Like Raen and Xaela of the au'ra except instead of color its body type. I think this is better than keeping the females as dainty little things only and males as big buff strongmen. this way people can have a cute viera boy or a handsome one, or a dainty viera girl or a tall and strong one

edit;; I now realize this very idea is right on the first page, thats what i get for not reading and just looking at the pretty pictures

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Anything original. Seriously, any race that you could possibly come up with can have androgynous males. Plant people? Robot people? hell even something more unique in the same way Au ra was.

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I'd advocate for a playable bird-like race then, since beauty is regularly seen as a trait of many, if not most, bird species' males.

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Originally Posted by Kukajoo

edit;; I now realize this very idea is right on the first page, thats what i get for not reading and just looking at the pretty pictures

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Yeah, I think that would be best. I feel there are some gaps that could be filled by just making the clans very different. You can have the tall, thicc, strong Viera fill that role and the short ones fill the role of cute small people for those that want petite toons.

Would be like 2 races in one. Which means it likely aint gonna happen...

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

I'd advocate for a playable bird-like race then, since beauty is regularly seen as a trait of many, if not most, bird species' males.

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I'd be okay with that, even though I already know feathers will be treated exactly the same way as scales (not that much of).

My support! I want Viera. I love their lore and would love to see what XIV does with them. I'd like to see other races, too, but this is my primary focus.

I show my Support. New races always good. The FF14 World must get bigger!

i summon this thread back from the depths of tartarus to say one thing

after much thought i would pay for the small humming way bunnies, lalafell size or bigger with fur normal feet (i guess) and cute puffball tail, i have grown to like this idea.

Why. Why must you keep raising this double weakness thread.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Why. Why must you keep raising this double weakness thread.

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Well why not?
We are already connected to FF12 and FFT world, viera seems to make sense.
If they didnt connect FF14 to above two worlds I would against the idea.
Since we are now connected, they should exist somewhere in FF14 world

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Why. Why must you keep raising this double weakness thread.

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-Because people like Viera a whole bunch.
-It's better than making a new thread every month.
-Yoshi-P and team aren't opposed, but have had other priorities and told us fans to keep interest going if we want a Viera-like race.

I can only hope Viera are referenced the next arc of the Ivalice raid. Seeing as Ba'Gamnan and his crew are around, we could very well see them soon.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/__fr...a8e33057aa.jpg

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Why. Why must you keep raising this double weakness thread.

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if i have lernt anything as the red mage, if i dont raise it noone will

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

We are already connected to FF12 and FFT world, viera seems to make sense.

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Not connected. We just have an Ivalice that just so happens to be similar to the one in those two games.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Well why not?
We are already connected to FF12 and FFT world, viera seems to make sense.
If they didnt connect FF14 to above two worlds I would against the idea.
Since we are now connected, they should exist somewhere in FF14 world

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We're not and it doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

-Because people like Viera a whole bunch.
-It's better than making a new thread every month.
-Yoshi-P and team aren't opposed, but have had other priorities and told us fans to keep interest going if we want a Viera-like race.

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-You're still a minority
-It's still like seeing a bad rash come back that won't go away
-And last I checked Yoshi-P wasn't really keen on the idea. It originally started as a part of a poll a LONG time ago where Viera was cited as an example of a new type of race players might want. Neither Yoshi-P or the devs ever said anything about adding Vieras.

There wouldn't even really be any point. The only way they would look remotely unique is if they were added exactly as the concept art depicted, as was the case with Au'Ra, you would NOT be getting what they showed us with the concept art. That race already proved they're not willing to redesign every piece of gear in the game to fit a race with a different frame (their feet is the only thing unique about them). At the end of the day you'd get another Miqote race with slightly larger ears and no tail. Even the large ears I'm having doubts over them implementing correctly for the same reason they won't give us any actual long hairstyles.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Why. Why must you keep raising this double weakness thread.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

-You're still a minority

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Because we want viera. If you would like a different race then maybe post about it on one of those threads?

Everyone I know personally in game is pro viera. I don't know how you got the idea of minority. Sounds pretty subjective to me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Didn't realize SE did an official poll! Link please <3

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

-You're still a minority

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So? Just because you're satisfied with playing the most popular race doesn't mean those of us left should put up and shut up. It's fine if you don't personally like Viera, no one will force you to play one or any original race resembling them.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

-And last I checked Yoshi-P wasn't really keen on the idea..... Neither Yoshi-P or the devs ever said anything about adding Vieras.

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https://www.finder.com.au/final-fant...ormblood-viera

You also miss the very first post and most conversation; Viera designs were drafted as an Au Ra possible design in Heavensward's early docs. It's all in Scale and Steel's last chapter, which lists a whole slew of Viera and our demonic Au Ra..

Basically is was nearly a Mithra/Miqo'te sort of situation, but the devs opted to instead make the first new race of FFXIV be original to the game verses a lifted remake as all other races we have are.

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

Because we want viera. If you would like a different race then maybe post about it on one of those threads?

Everyone I know personally in game is pro viera. I don't know how you got the idea of minority. Sounds pretty subjective to me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Didn't realize SE did an official poll! Link please <3

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/46936

It's really old, though, but this is the poll being referred to.

The poll thread also has this line,

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Ours being a Japanese game, the result seems to tell us that players are prioritizing cuteness, something which I noted with great interest.

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Which should always be something to be wary about, especially when it comes to an apparently beloved race like the Viera (and it doesn't help that there is a "cute child-like" concept of them, which even has Viera fans arguing/disagreeing amongst each other).
If Viera were to be playable at some point, then I'm hoping the next playable race will at least be something like the Lupin. Throw in something different and original into the basket SE, come on.

Male Lupins and female Viera? Have we seen any female Lupin yet; I don't recall unless I missed them somehow. :( Anyways, I wouldn't mind if things turned out this way so long as Viera look as similar as possible to their FFXII counterparts; elegant and beautiful. I wouldn't mind if Yoshida used the cute little bunny Viera concept art as a second clan like how the mid and highlanders are displayed. It would give some really unique diversity in another race's clan that we desperetly need for the others due to the lack diversity between them all besides a few minor differences. Keepers of the Moon Miqo'te could have been one of our more beastial clan races while Seekers of the Sun could have been their opposite, as an example.