July 4th 24 hr Maintenance

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Its a Japanese game. Why would they work their patch schedule around an American holiday?

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As an American I agree with this sentiment 100%. Why would an international company cater to our holidays? Makes no sense for them to do it.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

A.) Not true. Active US players are estimated at about 279k. Japan is 242k and Europe 125k. The USA is the largest single group, but not really close to "all other regions combined."

B.) Not everyone in the US has July 4th off, anyway. Most government jobs are off, but many local and private businesses are still open, and even public jobs like police, fire, etc. are on the job.

C.) Nothing lasts forever. But FFXIV right now is at one of its peaks, and hundreds of thousands of people are enjoying it :)

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A) Please cite your source. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

I'm going to be pulling a long shift on July 4th, because people need their buns and cupcakes for the holiday here. So not having to worry about not logging in is a bit of stress relief.

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In my nursing days, Cincierta, we used to say "Public holiday..whats that"?

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Originally Posted by Doc_Seraph

Kupo its not too bad don't stress my friend. It is time to enjoy life with a cold one and some good food! The game will be there when we get back ^_^ enjoy some good times kupo <3

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I love you. thank you for the laugh, Kupo.

Yea they should just delay the patch by a week for the americans, I'm sure nobody would mind.

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Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing

I love you. thank you for the laugh, Kupo.

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<3 kupo anytime!

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Originally Posted by Katalyn

Come on SE, why haven't you figured this out yet? Bringing down the servers on a holiday for a major portion of your subscriber base is very uncool. :(

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Ah yes cause the US and their holidays are the only ones that matter!

And maybe you try to celebrate your independence on that day rather than your dependence on the game. xD

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Originally Posted by Katalyn

I'm sure there are others, but the only American studio game I can think of that can compare to my point would be Blizzard/WOW. And yes, I would advocate it would be better customer service if they didn't do a 24 hour maintenance on a day corresponding to a major holiday in the regions they provide service. To be clear, I'm not saying every holiday, but the big ones, if you are providing a service in a region, would be best to avoid.

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You know, I believe we can petition Square Enix about this. How about this for everyone to sign?

"We, the undersigned, demand that any maintenance to the North American servers be delayed if they are scheduled to occur on a Major US Holiday. We are more than willing to allow the Rest of the World to have a new patch a week before we do in order to accommodate the small number of players in North America who are upset about holiday patch cycles."

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Originally Posted by AmpelioB

i dare you to eat a scorpion

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Funny enough I've not even seen one in the time I've lived here. I'm sure if I hit up a hiking trail or something I'd find one quickly enough...but only crazy people go on hikes in this heat.

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Originally Posted by Bringer-of-Omens

A) Please cite your source. Thanks.

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https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/all-...er-populations

You're welcome :)

Oh, and that's ignoring what other people have brought up about how the "USA" servers include a sizable number of people from Canada and the entirety of South America, meaning the actual "American" population is even significantly smaller in comparison.

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Originally Posted by Katalyn

Come on SE, why haven't you figured this out yet? Bringing down the servers on a holiday for a major portion of your subscriber base is very uncool. :(

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Everyone seems to forget that this isn't a JP holiday, and they don't give a flying rat fk about the West.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/all-...er-populations

You're welcome :)

Oh, and that's ignoring what other people have brought up about how the "USA" servers include a sizable number of people from Canada and the entirety of South America, meaning the actual "American" population is even significantly smaller in comparison.

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Wonder how they are getting those numbers. They aren't citing any ways to obtain them and if they are just relying upon something like Steam, the numbers are way, way off.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

Everyone seems to forget that this isn't a JP holiday, and they don't give a flying rat fk about the West.

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And western mmo's companies dont give a F about them so their all equal.

[Puts on Morpheus glasses]

WHAT IF I TOLD YOU, Yoshi-P was trying to do Americans a favour by specifically scheduling the maintenance on a day where they'd be out celebrating and doing other things anyway?

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

[Puts on Morpheus glasses]

WHAT IF I TOLD YOU, Yoshi-P was trying to do Americans a favour by specifically scheduling the maintenance on a day where they'd be out celebrating and doing other things anyway?

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That would be some 4D Chess right there, and make me respect the man even more.
Plus it reinforces the Narrative: Its ok to take breaks, we encourage you to takes breaks.

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Originally Posted by Tylandria

Not a major holiday. 1 Country celebrates it. One. Not a major holiday. Not even close. Also, I suggest you check the numbers on the majority of where this game is played in a single country. It isn't the US. Surprise!

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The American data servers have 12,701,623 of the 26,182,117 total characters in the game. That is nearly half the characters (48.512589719158% to be exact). While this is not an indicator of which country in the data center's region has the most players it still shows that it is the larges population for the game.

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Originally Posted by Xulcan

The American data servers have 12,701,623 of the 26,182,117 total characters in the game. That is nearly half the characters (48.512589719158% to be exact). While this is not an indicator of which country in the data center's region has the most players it still shows that it is the larges population for the game.

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And how many of those players are actually in other countries around the world (not the US) but call the NA data centres their home? Population is just a number without all the additional data behind it.

although it seems US people are the most offended, it has obviously escaped notice that this affects 100% of the player base, this includes everyone with a day off, who is taking a vacation, who is home sick etc...

surely a multinational company such as SE should poll their ENTIRE data base to make sure no one is off and might be adversely affected by this patch. /s

honestly, the lengths some will go to try and show how they deserve special attention is pretty amazing.

My only thing with Mondays is that a lot of US National Holidays (i.e. when banks are closed) are on Mondays no matter what.
Martin Luther King Jr Day - Always Monday
George Washington's Birthday - Always Monday
Memorial Day - Always Monday
Labor Day - Always Monday

Then the ones that fall on either a Sunday or Monday are observed on Monday. This year that'd be Independence Day, Juneteenth, and Christmas. There's not a single one on Tuesday this year. Next year again, there are 7 holidays observed on Mondays, and only one on a Tuesday. And there's not one on a Wednesday either this year or next... It's not entitlement, it's "I get these certain days where I don't have to work when I normally would, I would like to do something I enjoy while having that day off and this is what I currently enjoy -- and it's planned such that has the most opportunity to not allow that to happen"

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

although it seems US people are the most offended, it has obviously escaped notice that this affects 100% of the player base, this includes everyone with a day off, who is taking a vacation, who is home sick etc...

surely a multinational company such as SE should poll their ENTIRE data base to make sure no one is off and might be adversely affected by this patch. /s

honestly, the lengths some will go to try and show how they deserve special attention is pretty amazing.

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It's not even being offended. It's more like disappointment, I think. I'd find your post more offensive assuming that I'm being offended out of disappointment.

i see why people are upset but think of it as a good time to try a different game, unfortunately i still have to work so i guess it doesn't even effect me lol

The world does not revolve around the USA, and I say this as an American.
Square usually seems to do 24H patches on Mondays since Tuesday's are the weekly reset.

They are just following the schedule they always have.

This is a Japanese game my dude.

They don't care about our dumb holidays.

Putting aside the matter of 24h hours maintenance and when we should have it. I'd prefer if they tried to have a shorter maintenance schedule in general.

I prefer longer and less often over shorter and more frequent.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

How many patches, in the history of the game, have been on holidays for other countries? And how many of those people have actually complained about it?

A day away from the game wont kill you.

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For the past two years, my area (and I mean my town, neighborhood, community) does most of our Independence Day celebrations NOT on the day proper. In 2021, July 4th was a Sunday. Some people have work on Monday. Parties, fireworks, etc were all done on Saturday. This year, people go to work tomorrow. Saturday and Sunday were better days. No need to stay up late and wake up early the next day if we celebrate on the 2nd or 3rd.

The town did their celebration on Sunday night. Neighborhood did their block parties and all that on Saturday night. If it is anything like last year, some people will light off fireworks from their backyard at dusk (and probably throughout the night). But, the big things are already done here. Today is essentially "my day off." I'll just go do something else. I've already "peopled" and I'm "peopled out." I wouldn't have minded spending some of my day off in-game. I've already "peopled" and I'm "peopled out."

I'm celebrating 4th of July with Mexican Pizza and Coca-Cola. Discuss.

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Originally Posted by rance-sama

I'm celebrating 4th of July with Mexican Pizza and Coca-Cola. Discuss.

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what is mexican pizza exactly

bc i'm thinking taco bell chalupas dumped on cornflower base crust

4th is over. It's the 5th now.

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I went out and had fun once.
It was terrible.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

4th is over. It's the 5th now.

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it's been the 4th since the 2nd here
honestly it may stay the 4th until well into the 10th lol

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Originally Posted by Kyu-Momo

The world does not revolve around the USA, and I say this as an American.
Square usually seems to do 24H patches on Mondays since Tuesday's are the weekly reset.

They are just following the schedule they always have.

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Yeah I don't understand why people are acting like they actively chose a holiday to perform maintenance on. The holiday just happened to land on a day that's already typically used for long maintenance. It's unfortunate, but it certainly wasn't malicious or careless.

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Originally Posted by Ilisidi

I prefer longer and less often over shorter and more frequent.

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That's what she said.

"we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause"


"look forward to it!"

"Pray return to the Waking Sands at your earliest convenience"

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Originally Posted by Wanzzo

"Pray return to the Waking Sands at your earliest convenience"

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you guys are awesome xDD

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Originally Posted by Shibi

4th is over. It's the 5th now.

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Its the 4th here in the US.

I seriously ass-u-me'd that maintenance would start tomorrow because of the holiday. Then I tried to log in. I've been playing MMO's since 1995 and I've never come across this before.

Keep in mind that, if they don't change this policy, it will happen next year as well, as the 4th will be on a Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by Shirala

I seriously ass-u-me'd that maintenance would start tomorrow because of the holiday. Then I tried to log in. I've been playing MMO's since 1995 and I've never come across this before.

Keep in mind that, if they don't change this policy, it will happen next year as well, as the 4th will be on a Tuesday.

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if the patch happens to coincide with it then sure.
it could come earlier -- or it could come later. it just happened to occur today by total coincidence.