What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

It’s growing more rampant by the week…well it’s almost as if SE has given people reasons to be upset. It’s almost like in the past couple of weeks we’ve seen their horrible development standards what with hrothgar and the job changes.

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If this has been, as you so eloquently, and many others have put it a gleaming issue for the past 6 years in some areas, then it is probably a time to take it as a stark reality that the game just doesn't have that same philosophy anymore and for people to be less offended when people propose they try other games. But like I said, people have apparent allergies.

P.S. Before someone wants to make the wild accusation that it's easy for me to say, no it isn't. I've watched for the past years to see the engagement of crafting become a husk of its former self. Whilst I don't agree with it, I certainly understand their philosophy and reason for doing so.

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Originally Posted by Ashpd

Laser Beams whm, PTSD carteneau from smn's etc etc. Dead Blm and mch in strange position. But they just need add stun-immunity for few sec after previous stun and it's fine.

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Let me get in for some secret, Laser beams whm isn't the real issue when both sides can beam each other. WHM currently has Cure II bugs that instantly reset the charges. This is the real issue players have to speak out for them to fix.

Idk if posting link is against TOS, guess I'll risk it.

https://twitter.com/DynamicTaru/stat...74863513456642

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

I can see how some of "you" in the forum just want the game to get better by pretending the game is shit at it's core. Talking down real issue like COVID to keep shitting on the company so they can keep the engine running even harder than before.

It's just sad if they use forum to listen to feedback, and they will get nothing out of it. Just misinformation and hate, nothing that makes sense or even constructive.
I hope this won't drown all those posts with legit concerns and straight arguments to be heard instead of all these non-sense.

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To re-state what I said: the amount of time for the delay is in excess with what they indicated the setback was, i.e. on the order of 3-4 months give or take, when in effect this ended being 6+ months based on their usual release cycle. If you think that's "talking down", it speaks more to a deficiency in your reading comprehension abilities, intellectual honesty, or both.

As to the rest, it is merely deluded shilling, so I think any further engagement with you would be a waste of my time. The devs are going to get feedback, whether they read it or not, whether you and others like you trying to shut it down like it or not, and if the devs don't pay heed to it? Well, they can spend the next few months scratching their heads when people eventually do begin unsubbing.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

I like this patch and I would agree that it is one of their best patches. Though I think 6.2 will be better. That being said, I don't think it is without flaws. They're spreading content out, but they're spreading it too thin, way too thin, and if Deep Dungeon and whatever the Bozja equivalent will be, if those systems aren't merged then I'll definitely say too thinly.

They've got so many systems in the game now that are distinct when in reality they should be combined/merged somehow to create a really nice flare. I always look at Heaven on High and Eureka Pyros/Hydatos and think... "Man, wouldn't it be amazing if deep dungeon had the Logos/Lost Actions systems".

I definitely think there's a bit of the melodramatic here though.

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I think 6.1 is about the same as every x.1 patch slightly worst than most. Adventurer plates are neat for all you weirdos that are obsessed with this sort of crap content and the glamour system. (Don't get my wrong glamour is the true end game but some of you get to obsessed) MSQ was pretty cool as usual pissed me off where it ended, dungeon sucked as usual. Haven't done 24 man, I have heard it is pretty fun, our 3rd or 4th pvp revamp is the best revamp so far, the housing lotto was doomed to be problems since it was announced (I had more faith in Diadem than the lotto), and pretty unusual for a patch like this, very bad job changes.

I don't think people are being melodramatic though. I think the line is being drawn for a lot of people as this game does have a lot of false promises and short comings. Not all of us can pretend to be blind of problems for ever like others, and some players are new and just haven't experiences our repetitive patch cycles. I hope they do better, but lets be honest this patch was way messier than most. So calling people melodramatic for expressing concerns, anger, or criticism over this patch is just childish.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Honestly, the WoW comparisons are strange to me because...it can easily be inferred that after seeing the decline of WoW in real time many players moved over to FFXIV who are now seeing the exact same decline here as well.

WoW didn't collapse into controversy over the course of a single expansion. It was a slow, steady process that consisted of many different problems stacking up atop one another. Even then, many players rushed to stifle feedback and pretend everything was fine.

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Absolutely!!

I am looking forward to cross DC travel so I can find you Theodric (Matthieu) for man hugs from Odin -> Cerberus as I do like your forum posts :-D

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Originally Posted by Lauront

The devs are going to get feedback, whether they read it or not, whether you and others like you trying to shut it down like it or not, and if the devs don't pay heed to it? Well, they can spend the next few months scratching their heads when people eventually do begin unsubbing.

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Yep, even I have been considering taking a long break, if this game's direction continues this downward spiral. Like waiting until the next expansion. I've always taken breaks, but never that long before, and I usually stay subbed (at least periodically) during my breaks. I've never been a person who puts my money where my mouth is. I still spent on fantasias, all the while complaining about the state of viera, and I still remain subbed (I haven't played the game much since mid-January).

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

It's because this game doesn't have legitimate competition.

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WoW failing has been one of the worst things that could have happened for this game, especially at the time it did.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

Absolutely!!

I am looking forward to cross DC travel so I can find you Theodric (Matthieu) for man hugs from Odin -> Cerberus as I do like your forum posts :-D

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That makes two of us :)

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

I think 6.1 is about the same as every 6.1 patch slightly worst than most. Adventurer plates are neat for all you weirdos that are obsessed with this sort of crap content and the glamour system. (Don't get my wrong glamour is the true end game but some of you get to obsessed) MSQ was pretty cool as usual pissed me off where it ended, dungeon sucked as usual. Haven't done 24 man, I have heard it is pretty fun, our 3rd or 4th pvp revamp is the best revamp so far, the housing lotto was doomed to be problems since it was announced (I had more faith in Diadem than the lotto), and pretty unusual for a patch like this, very bad job changes.

I don't think people are being melodramatic though. I think the line is being drawn for a lot of people as this game does have a lot of false promises and short comings. Not all of us can pretend to be blind of problems for ever like others, and some players are new and just haven't experiences our repetitive patch cycles. I hope they do better, but lets be honest this patch was way messier than most. So calling people melodramatic for expressing concerns, anger, or criticism over this patch is just childish.

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It's an each to their own taste, at this point we're just arguing tastes which is a needless debate in and of itself.

Since you didn't really take the luxury of reading my other posts. I'll give you a summary. The criticisms and issues alone are not where the melodrama stems from, it is what people do with those criticisms and issues, ultimately. Once again, this comes from a community that is notorious for having the expectancy that all criticisms must be homogenous, some even going as far to say otherwise is white knighting. I'll go on but I don't really fancy repeating myself. It's had some messy implementations, yes, and this is as per my post largely as a result of them spreading themselves too thin. Refer to the second paragraph. Barring these few messy implementations, I've personally been having a blast. But I don't think they need me telling them it is messy when they've already had to make a public statement on the Lodestone about their housing issues.

I don't think you should be the one calling out people as being childish, given your opening statement, really.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

Let me get in for some secret, Laser beams whm isn't the real issue when both sides can beam each other. WHM currently has Cure II bugs that instantly reset the charges. This is the real issue players have to speak out for them to fix.

Idk if posting link is against TOS, guess I'll risk it.

https://twitter.com/DynamicTaru/stat...74863513456642

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If you had been so kind as to read what we were talking about, you would have seen a conversation about balance, not bugs. And balance in PVP right now is worse than before. Bring back Feast, come on SE, it was fine

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

WoW failing has been one of the worst things that could have happened for this game, especially at the time it did.

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It hasn't failed, it's still insanely popular and has just as many players. For a failed game, it's probably still joint biggest MMO with FFXIV rather than having a clear lead. New expansion announcement on Tuesday anyway so unless they're going to be majorly out of touch again, there could easily be an exodus the other way.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

Absolutely!!

I am looking forward to cross DC travel so I can find you Theodric (Matthieu) for man hugs from Odin -> Cerberus as I do like your forum posts :-D

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I'm glad someone likes my posts! ;)

But, yes, if and when DC travel is added I'm all for some sort of in-game meet and greet! :)

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Originally Posted by Ashpd

If you had been so kind as to read what we were talking about, you would have seen a conversation about balance, not bugs.

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That bug seems to throw the WHM balance even further. What?

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

That makes two of us :)

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Me too. Quite a few nice people on these forums that remind me the ff14 community isn't completely lost and insane

I didn't think I'd be wishing for the days back when my only concerns were jellybean hrothgar yet here we are.
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Originally Posted by Swad

Its not Worlo yet but the Worlo players know what its like to be burned by garbage developers and will recognize decline super fast. All my buddies quit FFXI when Adoulin came out and our relic weapons were made useless and they all quit WoW in 6.1 with the trash patch that came out. Im pissed cause my lotto was off by 1 on the large house and I already have a good house.

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relic weapons are still good, you can further your relic weapons in FFXI now

also seekers of Adoulin story was so good, I really enjoyed it alot




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ah and she's so adorable

Agree with OP.
I play since 2016. This game is dear to my heart, because it’s my first MMO, and because I met my husband in Eorzea in 2016 as well, we moved together and are still happy to this day.
This game is quite like a second home for me, at least I feel at home in the so familiar places of Eorzea.
BF and I were prising this game very high. Beautiful mmo, great community in general and NO BUGS. (This is why what is happening now is quite a choc to me honestly.)
The team laughing when showing Hrothgar’s new haircuts, knowing it’s bad (I’m not speaking of Viera and the 150€ ish I spent in Fantasias because of them) the statement about the ultimates… Yoshida wasn’t like this before.
I’m sad, that’s all.

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

I mean, do they though? We keep hearing about issues and problems that have been around for literal years. The game going down the toilet for years. The developers ignoring the players for years. And yet, those same players with those same complaints are still playing (and paying).

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It's most likely going to be the good old rousing round of complaints and then people proceed to do absolutely nothing about it. Can't stop paying (even though they most likely avoid actually playing the game to the best of their abilities since they're bored out of their minds) after such a heavy investment of money and time. Or whatever...

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

It's an each to their own taste, at this point we're just arguing tastes which is a needless debate in and of itself.

Since you didn't really take the luxury of reading my other posts. I'll give you a summary. The criticisms and issues alone are not where the melodrama stems from, it is what people do with those criticisms and issues, ultimately. Once again, this comes from a community that is notorious for having the expectancy that all criticisms must be homogenous, some even going as far to say otherwise is white knighting. I'll go on but I don't really fancy repeating myself. It's had some messy implementations, yes, and this is as per my post largely as a result of them spreading themselves too thin. Refer to the second paragraph. Barring these few messy implementations, I've personally been having a blast. But I don't think they need me telling them it is messy when they've already had to make a public statement on the Lodestone about their housing issues.

I don't think you should be the one calling out people as being childish, given your opening statement, really.

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For saying adventurer plates are neat for weirdos that are obsessed with this crap? I don't know man, who even asked for this and where does this even fit into the game. It is interesting don't get me wrong but it feels like we are getting to an extent where this game is become less of an MMORPG game and more of a fashion show at times. And people praise it which makes them go more into this direction while other aspects of the game suffer. I wonder if they didn't spend time on adventurers plates, if they would have tested the lotto system 2 or 3 more times before releasing and getting themselves in this crappy situation altogether.

And I don't think it is true that all criticism must be homogenous, I have seen good criticism, I have seen bad criticism. Is what I personally get sick of on these forums is when some one gives criticism, and players want to give an excuse for the criticism, or tells others to just quit the game.

I mean look at the samurai community, they are all going as far as to say the class was nerfed. Sure it lost kaiten which is less fun to some, but the aDPS of samurai has not changed significantly enough to say this class was nerfed to the ground. Personally I think if Yoshi P had plans to remove kaiten it should have waited until the next expansion, or at least given detailed explanations as to what the goal is with these class changes this expansion as from this patch a lot of things felt like half ass decision making. Minuet turns to pitch perfect that is just stupid. So I think these changes warrant some criticism on poor changes to classes. Sure call this the best patch, but in my opinion this patch doesn't feel much different than any x.1 patch, and if anything it really outlines some issues that should be addressed in there development process.

Know what I want for glamour, I want a poop emote. So when DC traveling comes out I can come poop in your yard assuming you have a house, if not then I guess I won't do that.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

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Yes, you're in no state nor position to say what people should be invested in within this game. Equally, I could call some people freaks who are overly obsessed and clung to the idea of difficulty creeps, or whatever content you may be interested in - Just doesn't really make for constructive debate, not to mention it's fairly counterproductive.. I think the very fact that adventurer plates have been so well received by the general community pretty much renders your point moot. Doesn't matter if the community asked for it or not. It was well-received, you didn't like it, and as per your own words stop being a child and calling other peoples weirdos for getting a piece of content they enjoy and you haven't. Once again involving in needless 'what if'.

Thank you for agreeing with my point. Criticisms shouldn't be homogenous, no. My point is that people take it a step further and wallow away in insults at disagreements. This is generally speaking at this point, much as you have already done so by calling peoples weirdos for enjoying the content you don't.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

Know what I want for glamour, I want a poop emote. So when DC traveling comes out I can come poop in your yard assuming you have a house, if not then I guess I won't do that.

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Are you even reading what you write at this point? You see, this is a prime example of being childish. But by all means LOL.

Honestly, at this point, I'm starting to miss MPK.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Yes, you're in no state nor position to say what people should be invested in within this game. Equally, I could call some people freaks who are overly obsessed and clung to the idea of difficulty creeps, or whatever content you may be interested in. I think the very fact that adventurer plates have been so well received by the general community pretty much renders your point moot. Doesn't matter if the community asked for it or not. It was well-received, you didn't like it, and as per your own words stop being a child and calling other peoples weirdos for getting a piece of content they enjoy and you haven't. Once again involving in needless 'what if'.

Thank you for agreeing with my point. Criticisms shouldn't be homogenous, no. My point is that people take it a step further and wallow away in insults at disagreements. This is generally speaking at this point, much as you have already done so by calling peoples weirdos for enjoying the content you don't.



Are you even reading what you write at this point? You see, this is a prime example of being childish. But by all means LOL.

Honestly, at this point, I'm starting to miss MPK.

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Yup definitely want that poop emote. I am coming to poop in your yard, in 3 months in patch 6.18, if we get the poop emote I am requesting.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

Yup definitely want that poop emote. I am coming to poop in your yard, in 3 months in patch 6.18, if we get the poop emote I am requesting.

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Don't worry, I'll have some repellent and sanitizers ready!

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Originally Posted by Mapleine

The official forums are just the venting grounds, I was venting a bit too until 6.1 rebuilt confidence. They used to be a bit better though, like people were still whiny messes in ARR (me too) but the WoW exodus had a highly obvious effect and some people just found that type of miasma to stew in due to it.

Consider that this is the largest x.1 we've had by a fair clip, and we have the handful of denizens on this forum complaining about the exact opposite right in its wake. Just the roadmap listing for 6.2 makes 5.2 look like anemic by comparison. COVID ran a spike through Shadowbringers, as they stressed about 3 times, and we're barely now recovering. That much is obvious.

I do think people are in the right about job design though. It's not "ruined" or anything but it's on a worrying trend. Healing has always been a confused mess, from ARR to now, it isn't a recent occurance. I really wish they'd just give up on it and make the PvP WHM a reality. XIV is a game about puzzles and patterns, it's scripted and its rough to make exciting healing for that.

So gimmie my damn lily beam and seraph strike.

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This right here, is the most sensible post Ive seen yet.

"What is going on with Square Enix"
A lot, 3 new AAA games with devs allocated to meaningless tasks.
"What is going on with 14 team"
Most likely a mash of new hires, new direction and the title of "End of the Saga".
I'm expecting Endwalker patches to be somewhat of a buggy mess since they decided to update the spaghetti code in the middle of the expansion.
It's a big fuck up on their end, people will unsubscribe, they will fix it and that's the end of the story.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

Yup definitely want that poop emote. I am coming to poop in your yard, in 3 months in patch 6.18, if we get the poop emote I am requesting.

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Don't worry about Kaurhz, She works for SE and HAS to lick their boots to earn her measly salary. It's the same whenever she comes across even the slightest critiscism.

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Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold

Don't worry about Kaurhz, She works for SE and HAS to lick their boots to earn her measly salary. It's the same whenever she comes across even the slightest critiscism.

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You should probably my other posts, but of course, you don't where I've openly stated in this very thread that their content is too thinly spread, or when I openly stated I didn't like (but understood) their direction for the oversimplification for crafting.

As I said, criticisms are not homogenous, I have different criticisms from other people. Similarly, they have different criticisms from me. But thank you for proving my point for the second time today, it really makes that measly salary worth it! :)

The Hrothgar stuff is pretty inexcusable and the housing issue that happened is just salt to the wound.. and honestly I’m seeing more problems in the future just because it seems they are tip toeing around the problem with their old game engine.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'm glad someone likes my posts! ;)

But, yes, if and when DC travel is added I'm all for some sort of in-game meet and greet! :)

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why even bother? You should actually do something sensible and vote with your wallet by unsubbing this game, right now. There's no value here anymore.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Between the healer problems for 6 years being ignored, the recent Hrothgar problems where they waited patiently for 3 years and got literal shit, to the horrid job design in 6.1, the pretty controversial story of EW, to now the housing system just imploding on itself. Do the devs just not care anymore? The game is seeing it’s peak, the game is bringing in more money than ever, and yet we’re somehow getting more broken systems. I guess this is what happens when they let the popularity get to their head? They start thinking they can half ass everything and people will continue to stay and kiss up to them.

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I've felt this way since SHB. I was an AST main back in StB and ended up switching to WHM because I hated the AST changes. Then I got tired of Glare spam and started playing more dps. I think I was distracted by the story in SHB and it wasn't until a little while after I finished the story that I started realizing the game just felt different. I'm not sure how to explain it but I could feel that the game was headed in a different direction.

And now I'm just wondering what are they thinking? I'm not sure if they've gotten a little arrogant now or just "comfortable" because they know a lot of players will stick with the game no matter what decisions they make because Yoshi P is their lord and savior, but whatever it is they need a reality check. I was kind of surprised at Yoshi P's reaction to the Hrothgar criticism though. That response was just weird and felt kind of snarky. We literally have screenshots of him telling the players what he would do in 2019 and now all of a sudden it's "well if you guys are gonna complain so much then we MIGHT consider doing this..."

Like what?

I miss the halcyon days of Stormblood and gameplay driven content. Now all we have is people going "....but muh story good!". You have to have a gameplay loop in an videogame, but SE has been making that worse and worse with each expansion. All flash and frivolous features over meaty gameplay. Now they can't seem to even QA a simple system. Shameful.

My of love of this game aside. Yes, its time for issues to get fixed. I was one of many who said a lotto system was bad idea. Happy its recieving such negative feedback, my sympathy to those hit by the bug. But glad that happened as well I really hope its gets the dev's attention. Its time for

-Instanced housing
-Complete review and overhaul of Healers
-Dungeons seeing more complexity,
+Trash being more mechanical.
+Less hallway feel
-Better balance between casual and hardcore crafting.
-Avoiding of the rollercoaster feeling pacing of EW story. Ya, like the story but its pacing felt like a rollercoaster.
-veira and hoth getting proper attention.
-More effort put into curving botting and rmt..

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Originally Posted by OhNooo

I've felt this way since SHB. I was an AST main back in StB and ended up switching to WHM because I hated the AST changes. Then I got tired of Glare spam and started playing more dps. I think I was distracted by the story in SHB and it wasn't until a little while after I finished the story that I started realizing the game just felt different. I'm not sure how to explain it but I could feel that the game was headed in a different direction.

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Coincidentally, ShB seems to be around the time when "journalists" reached a fever pitch of praising the game for being perfect and amazing and there was more shilling and advertising than ever more. The streamer shill boom, too. StB was getting there (they even had a... wrestling promo? ads in NY Times Square, fast food promos with the holy Zenos chalice, etc.)

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Originally Posted by Skyborne

Coincidentally, ShB seems to be around the time when "journalists" reached a fever pitch of praising the game for being perfect and amazing and there was more shilling and advertising than ever more. StB was getting there (they even had a... wrestling promo? ads in NY Times Square, fast food promos with the holy Zenos chalice, etc.)

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Yes, with a new article about how he "saved" the game every few months or so. Like they really had to hammer the point over and over.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

I miss the halcyon days of Stormblood and gameplay driven content. Now all we have is people going "....but muh story good!". You have to have a gameplay loop in an videogame, but SE has been making that worse and worse with each expansion. All flash and frivolous features over meaty gameplay. Now they can't seem to even QA a simple system. Shameful.

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I was literally thinking something similar to this the other day when I was running through Orbonne for fun. I just love the mechanics. And look at Ridorana too - Construct 7 is my favorite boss in that raid. It's funny how so many people complain about the math, but I think it's genius. It seems like all the mechanics people complain about are my favorite. StB had the most fun gameplay for me in this game. Back then the story didn't matter much because I was having so much fun actually playing the game. In SHB my focus shifted a little more towards the story because of that trailer. But by the time the story hype was over, I realized there wasn't much I was excited about as far as gameplay.

I think my gameplay style is more...unconventional? Like running content without a healer or any type of non traditional party makeup, or soloing things. I want more content with prenerfed TG Cid type mechanics or just anything where you have to pay attention - some type of harder midcore content. But it looks like this game is going to be 2 extremes - easy msq level content or savage/ultimate and no in between.

I do have some hope for the newest alliance raid and I'm interested in seeing the other 2 raids in the trilogy. But other than that the only thing I'm remotely interested in is dragging myself through solo potd until I either clear it or rage quit again.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

why even bother? You should actually do something sensible and vote with your wallet by unsubbing this game, right now. There's no value here anymore.

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You morons are genuinely incapable of understanding that someone can have significant criticisms with a game and still enjoy it for what it is. From what I've seen, it seems like most people don't think the game is in a bad place RIGHT NOW, but that the game is trending towards a bad place. Don't think that means they need to unsubscribe to stick to their convictions or something like you seem to think, not until the devs have finally shown they don't care at all, which I don't think most people believe, and I don't think is true.

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Originally Posted by OhNooo

I was literally thinking something similar to this the other day when I was running through Orbonne for fun. I just love the mechanics. And look at Ridorana too - Construct 7 is my favorite boss in that raid. It's funny how so many people complain about the math, but I think it's genius. It seems like all the mechanics people complain about are my favorite. StB had the most fun gameplay for me in this game. Back then the story didn't matter much because I was having so much fun actually playing the game. In SHB my focus shifted a little more towards the story because of that trailer. But by the time the story hype was over, I realized there wasn't much I was excited about as far as gameplay.

I think my gameplay style is more...unconventional? Like running content without a healer or any type of non traditional party makeup, or soloing things. I want more content with prenerfed TG Cid type mechanics or just anything where you have to pay attention - some type of harder midcore content. But it looks like this game is going to be 2 extremes - easy msq level content or savage/ultimate and no in between.

I do have some hope for the newest alliance raid and I'm interested in seeing the other 2 raids in the trilogy. But other than that the only thing I'm remotely interested in is dragging myself through solo potd until I either clear it or rage quit again.

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TG Cid and the High Seraph, especially with that phase where she spits all those mechanics to you at once, are probably my fave 24 man raid fights to date (alongside Nald'Thal.) I can't really fault the 24 man design, as although the Nier stuff wasn't to my tastes, I've enjoyed the 24 man raid content every expansion between HW and EW. It's so much better than the design of their normal content in every other area. At least as far as the 24 man stuff is concerned, and especially after the Nald'thal fight, I have few concerns for that line of content.

Yoshi and the team have been stuck in this shell of theirs for too long time to crack it open!!! * Pulls out massive hammer*

Dragonsong Ultimate has to go off without a hitch and PvP needs to be frequently updated as those are the only two things SE has going atm.

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Originally Posted by OhNooo

I was literally thinking something similar to this the other day when I was running through Orbonne for fun. I just love the mechanics. And look at Ridorana too - Construct 7 is my favorite boss in that raid. It's funny how so many people complain about the math, but I think it's genius. It seems like all the mechanics people complain about are my favorite. StB had the most fun gameplay for me in this game. Back then the story didn't matter much because I was having so much fun actually playing the game. In SHB my focus shifted a little more towards the story because of that trailer. But by the time the story hype was over, I realized there wasn't much I was excited about as far as gameplay.

I think my gameplay style is more...unconventional? Like running content without a healer or any type of non traditional party makeup, or soloing things. I want more content with prenerfed TG Cid type mechanics or just anything where you have to pay attention - some type of harder midcore content. But it looks like this game is going to be 2 extremes - easy msq level content or savage/ultimate and no in between.

I do have some hope for the newest alliance raid and I'm interested in seeing the other 2 raids in the trilogy. But other than that the only thing I'm remotely interested in is dragging myself through solo potd until I either clear it or rage quit again.

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Aglaia is so much more fun to run then Nier riads, Rhaglr and Nald'Thal fights are really fun and fresh feeling. Pandæmonium is solid 7/10 although I wish the first wing was a little bit more mechanically heavier. It seems like they are trying to recreate SB feel in post patches now that the big bad is done and gone.

Roadmap looks promising so I pray that they won't repeat ShB and cut some content out for the sake of steadier patch releases.
There are glaring issues with new PvP system but it is a step up from what we had, class have their own identity, they don't feel homogenized.
PvE balances on the other hand are understandable but also head scratching, seems like they are a band-aid solution until they can come up with something better in x.2.

The only major issue I saw people talk about outside the forum is housing and hroth ears, which yeah SE should be crucified for but I really doubt they will risk their cashcow and not fix it.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you don't "need" a house to play. anyone whining about it just leave.

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Can we please stop saying this "Just Leave" stuff? It doesn't make anything better all it is an attempt to invalidate someone else's opinion. And frankly, I think the turning of blind eye is what leads to more discontent.

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Originally Posted by Elucesta

Can we please stop saying this "Just Leave" stuff? It doesn't make anything better all it is an attempt to invalidate someone else's opinion. And frankly, I think the turning of blind eye is what leads to more discontent.

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Yep. The same thing happened with WoW. "Just leave!" they said. "Can I have your stuff?" they commented sarcastically. Eventually they did leave and in increasingly larger numbers, most never planning to return, resulting in dying or dead servers like mine. Rip Turalyon.