MSQ cutscenes - Allow vote to skip if there are no first time/new players

I wouldn't mind this on two conditions:

1. The vote to skip needs to be anonymous
2. The vote to skip needs to be unanimous to pass

My only worry is that when the vote fails, some players would whine even harder than they already do in there. Frankly, I'd rather have a "Report Whiner" feature because those whining players are even more annoying than the cut scenes.

Sure--but then would you also accept if this scenario put a big cut in the amount of exp/poetics you gain? Because you have to realize that part of the reason you get so much exp/poetics, especially from Prae, is to balance it with the amount of time you're investing.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Actually the large incentive was put in because no one was doing it.

And this community really dislikes vets, they should name the game FF14 - Fuck vets.

This game is not just for new players or rubbish players.

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... you do realize that literally proves my point, yes? Without the buffed rewards people wouldn't touch MSQ, thus said rewards are compensation for your time. Therefore, if you could skip all the cut scenes, you no longer need an incentive.

If you meant no one was doing it before, when cut scenes were skippable. That's just flat wrong.

With skippable cut scenes, they take about as long as any other ARR dungeon (well, maybe not Aurum Vale) for less effort, and used to give about the same reward as leveling roulette. So people would do them, but they'd get pissy at new people trying to actually watch the story.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

... you do realize that literally proves my point, yes? Without the buffed rewards people wouldn't touch MSQ, thus said rewards are compensation for your time. Therefore, if you could skip all the cut scenes, you no longer need an incentive.

If you meant no one was doing it before, when cut scenes were skippable. That's just flat wrong.

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Of course no one was doing it before the cut scenes were skippable, it was the most under used DF roulette.

But this community just hates Vets getting nice things.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Of course no one was doing it before the cut scenes were skippable, it was the most under used DF roulette.

But this community just hates Vets getting nice things.

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Uhh, most of us saying why and not wanting it to change ARE vets.

What are you even on about.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Uhh, most of us saying why and not wanting it to change ARE vets.

What are you even on about.

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Also the people complaining now about non skippable CS in these duties are the ones with that "I want all the stuff without doing the work" mentality. They only want the roulette rewards however they do not want to actually do what is required to get said rewards.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Uhh, most of us saying why and not wanting it to change ARE vets.

What are you even on about.

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I never said the ones complaining are new players, I said this community always try to fuck Vets in general.

Read this thread from posters, its a rather specific demographic of people, this playerbase really hates Vets that do well in the game in PVE.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

I never said the ones complaining are new players, I said this community always try to fuck Vets in general.

Read this thread from posters, its a rather specific demographic of people, this playerbase really hates Vets that do well in the game in PVE.

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That is simply a lie. Either that or you have no clue whatsoever about what you speak.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Yoshida has literally said the present buffed rewards are compensation for players watching a marathon of cut scenes they've already seen. The whole reason MSQ Roulette rewards such a staggering amount is due to the sheer length. If people had the option to skip them if there weren't new players, they'll absolutely start kicking them or setting up PFs that refuse to take new players. Both of which defeats the very purpose of those added incentives.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Actually the large incentive was put in because no one was doing it.
And this community really dislikes vets, they should name the game FF14 - Fuck vets.

This game is not just for new players or rubbish players.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

... you do realize that literally proves my point, yes? Without the buffed rewards people wouldn't touch MSQ, thus said rewards are compensation for your time. Therefore, if you could skip all the cut scenes, you no longer need an incentive.

If you meant no one was doing it before, when cut scenes were skippable. That's just flat wrong.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Of course no one was doing it before the cut scenes were skippable, it was the most under used DF roulette.

But this community just hates Vets getting nice things.

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I'm not sure if this is argument for the sake of arguing... Fortnightshade is correct here;
Every change to these two instances has been for the benefit of new players:
-The buff in XP was to compensate for time used
-The purpose of enticing vets to do this is to give new players a low queue time.
-The inability to skip cutscenes is a direct result of players not waiting for new players.

Also, vet from 2.0 launch and I fully support this change. For me, this is a "nice thing". How is chillaxing in a 30-45 minute instance watching youtube because it's insanely easy and getting a fat reward at the end NOT a nice thing?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Skip cutscenes and reduce rewards by 90%.

The rewards exist because of the cutscenes.

Just don't run the roulette if you don't want to spend the time...

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First answer best answer :o