[Suggestion] Fashion/Vanity Slots.

No, not joking... I wasn't even thinking about the "slot cost limitations", that was something I didn't like ether. Who even like limitations anyway.

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Originally Posted by PSxpert2011

No, not joking... I wasn't even thinking about the "slot cost limitations", that was something I didn't like ether. Who even like limitations anyway.

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Um I would rather have the inventory space, they look the slot cost away and compensated with higher stat pieces but less pieces in total.

I think the change is well worth it.

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Originally Posted by Firon

Yes Firon needs this i must wear turbans 100% of the time on my mnk.

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I'm all about the iron-plated jackboots and iron vembraces.

Just like we have underwear for fashion and minimal bonus, fashion slots could be entirely new piece of equipment.
For example, tabard, capes, visible backpacks, face things, ... and other things that is worn OVER our gear.

My first post, and felt compelled to reply because I do support the OP. Appearance slots are indeed becoming common in MMO. They had one in EQ2, and it worked exactly the way the OP described it.

I agree with the limitation that only gears your class can wear should be allowed to be equipped in appearance slots.

I also understand the concern of someone who said that during PvP, they wouldn't want to misjudge a person's appearance. Although I don't think this is a big issue, maybe during PvP, the appearance slots can be disabled and only the armor will be displayed.

In any case, I don't really see any negative impacts. Those that don't want to alter their appearance don't have to use it, and those that do, they can use it. In PVE, you can easily just /check if you want to inspect how well-geared your teammates are.

In SWTOR this is becoming a big issue because armors with great stats cause crazy mismatch. A Trooper character can look like a rainbow. They've implemented a system where the boots, helmet, and gloves will automatically match their colors to the chestpiece. But people are still begging for appearance slots to solve the problem permanently.

Also in addition, I feel that by calling it vanity; vanity carries a negative connotation, which is why we're getting some responses saying "this is not a fashion show". Maybe call it alternate appearance slots, alternate skin, or etc. If we want support, we need some great Public Relation action, and names do make a difference. Recall : "Bailout" vs. "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act"

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

I also understand the concern of someone who said that during PvP, they wouldn't want to misjudge a person's appearance. Although I don't think this is a big issue, maybe during PvP, the appearance slots can be disabled and only the armor will be displayed.

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I don't think this risk is as significant as some make it out to be. I've PvP'd with transmog gear on and doesn't change the dynamics between who can hit you from range and so on. Doesn't really affect PvP performance in any way, really.

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In SWTOR this is becoming a big issue because armors with great stats cause crazy mismatch. A Trooper character can look like a rainbow. They've implemented a system where the boots, helmet, and gloves will automatically match their colors to the chestpiece. But people are still begging for appearance slots to solve the problem permanently.

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Well, they wouldn't need appearance slots if they had listened to the beta testers and expanded the mod system instead of mostly destroy it and roll back to an inferior version of what we had.

As far as name, I would go for Transmogrification, but WoW already took that term. Hmm....

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I don't think this risk is as significant as some make it out to be. I've PvP'd with transmog gear on and doesn't change the dynamics between who can hit you from range and so on. Doesn't really affect PvP performance in any way, really.

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I agree, it has worked fine in other games, I don't see why it wouldn't here. I mentioned it only because I feel that this is the only complain that the naysayers have. I myself don't foresee any other problems that can arise from this appearance slot/ transmogrification system. I would love to hear the position of the developers on this. Maybe they have some amazing explanation to disagree with us that we haven't thought about, we're all ears.

In the future though, I think all MMOs should have this option. Almost every MMOs runs into the same exact problem of having everyone look the same, or having everyone go around with mismatch gears. Some people that don't care about appearances don't mind, but others care about roleplaying appearance very much.

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

In the future though, I think all MMOs should have this option. Almost every MMOs runs into the same exact problem of having everyone look the same, or having everyone go around with mismatch gears. Some people that don't care about appearances don't mind, but others care about roleplaying appearance very much.

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I personally want to see an MMO that takes the step Bioware never did with the mod system for TOR. A system where gear has slots where you can allocate things with stats to decide the level and stats of that piece of gear. Sure, the grind becomes less about gear and more about these components with stats, but people would still compete to gear with unique appearances, and people like me can build their personal set and save the world while wearing it. *nod*

I don't want this, I don't want everyone wearing a dress in my part. If you wanna wear fancy cloths wear it around town, but when you go out for adventure or party or event, you shouldn't be wearing those fancy cloths.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I don't want this, I don't want everyone wearing a dress in my part. If you wanna wear fancy cloths wear it around town, but when you go out for adventure or party or event, you shouldn't be wearing those fancy cloths.

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Tell that to the guys who designed every character between Final Fantasy IV through XII.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I don't want this, I don't want everyone wearing a dress in my part. If you wanna wear fancy cloths wear it around town, but when you go out for adventure or party or event, you shouldn't be wearing those fancy cloths.

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It's not about wearing fancy clothes, it about wearing what you want without having to look like a mismatched goon/copy of everyone else. And why does it matter to you what they look like if they're wearing the real gear?

Now that golden week is over, let's hope this gets some attention. ^_^/

I 100% support this and I hope we can keep this thread alive long enough to get a developer response.

I know it is too much to put into the current game. I feel however this is a must have in 2.0. While it is hard to program into 1.0, it would be easy to implement in 2.0.

One thing Final Fantasy players love in general is their fashion sense. You strive for people to be unique among everyone else. The Wardrobe system here is the perfect solution for this. We make our own distinct look and gain stat benefits from other armors.

WoW and Rift do this with ease, I don't see why this would be an issue for 2.0. I would love to be in my full DRG AF while having stat benefits from other gear. Same with Paladin.

Please take this into consideration SE! :)

EDIT: I would also like to mention that older content in WoW became vastly popular for a long time after they added a wardrobe system. Everyone wanted the looks from armor in previous expansions. Wardrobe just gives us another reason to explore past dungeons again.

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Originally Posted by Buttons

Now that golden week is over, let's hope this gets some attention. ^_^/

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I vote they work on content and game design over things like this (aside from the fact I just don't like this idea)

This is an amazing idea, I've always loved vanity slots. There is a reason why it is standard in every successful MMORPG these days. It's easy to implement, fun for players, and there is 0 downside for people that don't like it. Don't like the idea of the feature? Just don't use it. Simple as that. It doesn't hurt anyone, and actually adds a lot for players to do in the game. There may be old dungeons that people don't do anymore because the gear stats are obsolete, well with a vanity feature people may want to go back and do those dungeons to attain that gear.

I support this idea. It even makes old content somewhat viable, if you want that old awesome looking level 30 piece of gear for cosmetic reasons. It also allows players some indivuduality. They would just have to create outfits that fit FF.

Most modern games do this, and it has been well received in those games. Lotro's system is a good example. Guild wars 2 and Tera are both newer mmos that have systems like this.

Please add this SE! It will make the game much funner !

Yay, more support. Thanks everyone. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Velhart

One thing Final Fantasy players love in general is their fashion sense. You strive for people to be unique among everyone else. The Wardrobe system here is the perfect solution for this. We make our own distinct look and gain stat benefits from other armors.

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Indeed. Not to mention that as I said earlier, characters in the console FF games are all designed around looking a certain way while saving the world. So it even fits that ideology.

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WoW and Rift do this with ease, I don't see why this would be an issue for 2.0. I would love to be in my full DRG AF while having stat benefits from other gear. Same with Paladin.

Please take this into consideration SE! :)

EDIT: I would also like to mention that older content in WoW became vastly popular for a long time after they added a wardrobe system. Everyone wanted the looks from armor in previous expansions. Wardrobe just gives us another reason to explore past dungeons again.

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I can attest to this. WoW saw a massive surge of people doing older content when transmogrification was added. It was fun because the people who never saw the content got to see it for achievements and gear. Even now people still run stuff like Karazhan and Black Temple for the gear drops.

I have said I supported this, but I'm really curious to hear the arguments from those that don't support this. If you disagree, can you state why? Because you might know a downside to this that we haven't thought about, and we'd love to be enlightened.

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

I have said I supported this, but I'm really curious to hear the arguments from those that don't support this. If you disagree, can you state why? Because you might know a downside to this that we haven't thought about, and we'd love to be enlightened.

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I would assume it would be for convoluting the gear slot window even more than it is now. Clutter and all that stuff. no fun. I wouldn't mind if they added it honestly, the monk af is something I'm seriously tired of looking at, but I'd like to see them focus on actual content over this, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

I would assume it would be for convoluting the gear slot window even more than it is now. Clutter and all that stuff. no fun. I wouldn't mind if they added it honestly, the monk af is something I'm seriously tired of looking at, but I'd like to see them focus on actual content over this, honestly.

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Chances are we have loads of content waiting to be released for 2.0, they are just keeping us ticking along on the bare minimum at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Chances are we have loads of content waiting to be released for 2.0, they are just keeping us ticking along on the bare minimum at the moment.

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I really hope so. Everyone here is banking on the promise of 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Zaaku

TAIL WAIST SLOT FOR THE LOVE OF ROAGRIMM!

I DON'T EVEN CARE WHAT THE STATS ARE. I'LL REPLACE MY -ENMITY AND MP BELT JUST GIVE IT TO ME!!

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You would wear a fake tail? you are a sick man! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Chances are we have loads of content waiting to be released for 2.0, they are just keeping us ticking along on the bare minimum at the moment.

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I'd like to think that, but I'm not expecting 10 various dunegons and 4 new primals at launch of 2.0, honestly. That seems a bit unrealistic. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

I'd like to think that, but I'm not expecting 10 various dunegons and 4 new primals at launch of 2.0, honestly. That seems a bit unrealistic. Lol.

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Yea I wouldn't expect too much but going by the PDF we have the following planned for 2.0

Odin (Primal?)
Ixal dungeon
Ruins dungeon
Crystal Tower
Leviathan Primal (its pictured in the PDF)
Garlean Fortress
Frontlines

Not to mention possible new area's and 100's of new quests.

Well... I've been seeing this thread here for a long while and haven't posted, might as well throw my opinion since work is slow atm.

I am... Partially in favor of this. I mean, I have a certain thing against you NOT looking like what you wear. I really think that if you're going for optimum stats and end up looking like your catgirl works in a steampunk red light district, heavens you're going to have to pay that price of looking ridiculous for your stats.
However, I really would love to have a way to change my appearance without impacting my stats so actual vanity slots, as in added gear akin to undergarments that is worn both under and over your actual equipment that serve exclusively as appearance is something I would love to see

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

I would assume it would be for convoluting the gear slot window even more than it is now. Clutter and all that stuff. no fun.

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There's multiple approaches to the UI for such a system. The important thing is getting the developers to consider the system rather than worry about the UI.

Bumpity bump. *puts out cookies again for the community reps* <(^_^)>

Anyone else feel like commenting on this? Or maybe help us push the OP to 150 Likes? >.>

Let's hope the community reps see this thread this week. ^_^/

As of right now if you wearing a piece of head gear and you really detest how it looks your only option is /display head off which sucks so I support this thread. Id like to wear my paragon's crown when I get it and have it look like my bard hat.

Whoever is against this can suck my big, fat miqote tail.

This is an awesome feature that should be included in every mmo.

I will reiterate that letting people get away with looking different from what they truly wear is a very, very strong pet peeve of mine, I think it's very silly and if you are so focused on stats, you truly deserve to look stupid.
However, added slots what only alter your appearance and can pretty much cover/make up for your other gear

How about we just have more gear that looks and performs good instead of one or the other instead?

go play tera

Let's keep this on-topic please, thanks. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How about we just have more gear that looks and performs good instead of one or the other instead?

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There will always be gear that some people don't like the look of, and people have their favorite looks

The people who don't like this idea either didn't play XI, or forgot about the many instances of hideous-but-best-slot-piece-for-many-jobs equipment.


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I never want to see things like this again...