I don't want to transfer, so WHY are you forcing me to?

inb4 tanaka or wada pulls off their yoshida mask

Regardless of whether or not the OP made an error, it should be clear to anyone who has ever worked in software development that SE made an equal or greater one. You (should) learn very early on how to validate input and perform error checking as users CAN AND WILL make mistakes (and no, instructions do not count as error checking). Software lacking this is bad software written by bad developers. There is absolutely no reason why a user would (not in error) select his/her own world as a transfer destination, so this situation should have been checked for. Checking to see if you clicked the radio button representing your current world isn't even that much code.

Obviously developers are people too and we make mistakes like everyone else. What bothers me about this is SE's refusal to do anything about it. For the people being unnecessarily hostile to the OP, remember that something like this could easily happen to you with how SE runs things.

A case of human error or not, SE's blatant disregard for helping those who made a mistake is reminiscent of SE's poor customer support from it's XI days.

I can tell SE right now that part of why WoW felt superior to XI was that Blizzards GMs actually felt like they did their job, busted their ass to help you with problems and generally seemed to ban RMTs as well as get people their gear back when they were hacked by said RMTs.

SE's GM's hardly did any of that in XI; it was just a big bag of "We will investigate" and nothing ever happened. I want to give SE the benefit of the doubt that they can improve on this sort of poor customer support, and this is definitely a case where they should start showing the change.

If I somehow got put on a different server than my friends and linkshell, I'd QUIT your game, SE. I can only imagine most other people would feel the same way or take the same action... please understand that. And remember that players such as that are usually much louder to people not playing your game than the people who are enjoying your game. The last thing 14 needs is the blight of this sort of botched merger on its hands to stain 2.0 even further.

so, how long have your character been inactive?

Why are these threads still being made? either quit the game or stfu about the server transfer. If you don't like what they're doing then cancel the account. Otherwise stfu and stop complaining about it, go make a blog if you're so angry.

I don't want to pay taxes, so WHY are you forcing me to?

What the hell has the last post have anything to do with this thread?

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What the hell has the last post have anything to do with this thread?

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The analogies made in this forum will make your brain bleed. And everyone loves to make them too. You get used to the bleeding, but not to the bullsh*t analogies.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

The analogies made in this forum will make your brain bleed. And everyone loves to make them too. You get used to the bleeding, but not to the bullsh*t analogies.

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Everyone has bullsh*t analogies Even you and I.. that's what the forums are all about anyways :P.

PS. I think he was joking around.. because this thread is getting out of hand.. "which it is"

A bit off-topic:

Remember way back in the day when SE released a patch for FFXI (I believe it was during ToAU), and many people who tried to install it received a 'your game is corrupt, please reinstall' error? Then, when you went to uninstall and reinstall, it was not clear that you MUST uninstall the expansions first... So, many people uninstalled their MAIN game first. When you did this, it gave you the normal 'caution: some programs may not work properly when this is uninstalled' warning. Then, it proceeded to wipe files necessary to your OS. Hundreds of people wiped their HDD's as a result. The very next day, they released a patch that fixed this problem; no longer would uninstalling your main game first destroy your OS.

Moral of the story: SE makes some GREAT games, but they're not the best at making other types of software. More than likely, they hired some outside company to make the online 'survey-style' application process, and that company did not necessarily understand the mechanics of what they were doing. Or, SE did it from within and they really are that bad at error-checking.

I read the merger notes again today, and idk if it was in there before but it has this thread's problem covered in it, in english, in a very accessible and obvious place, so ya!

OP is lying, I just tryed to do the SAME thing as he/she did and if the world os full it "DOES NOT" Bring you to a a different world:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...orldisfull.png Before...

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...rldisfull2.png After...

Made sure I did it to my Mule in case something happened... what a joke :/....

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Originally Posted by Frisque

You know what the saddest part of all is? Because of that one guy who started all of this, these "OMG I'm transferring away from all of my friends, WTF, SE?!?!?" kept sprouting up. Because according to the OP later in that same thread, SE contacted the guy to try and help.

See what happens when SE does try to help? The floodgates of derp burst open and destroy everything :(

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Yeah, this.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

A bit off-topic:

Remember way back in the day when SE released a patch for FFXI (I believe it was during ToAU), and many people who tried to install it received a 'your game is corrupt, please reinstall' error? Then, when you went to uninstall and reinstall, it was not clear that you MUST uninstall the expansions first... So, many people uninstalled their MAIN game first. When you did this, it gave you the normal 'caution: some programs may not work properly when this is uninstalled' warning. Then, it proceeded to wipe files necessary to your OS. Hundreds of people wiped their HDD's as a result. The very next day, they released a patch that fixed this problem; no longer would uninstalling your main game first destroy your OS.

Moral of the story: SE makes some GREAT games, but they're not the best at making other types of software. More than likely, they hired some outside company to make the online 'survey-style' application process, and that company did not necessarily understand the mechanics of what they were doing. Or, SE did it from within and they really are that bad at error-checking.

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They consistently underestimate people's ability to screw up.

This is what happens when you CHOOSE Ragnarok:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...onfrimPage.png

If you WANT to move there, then you hit the "CONFIRM" button, but selecting the SAME world.. WON'T move you to a DIFFERENT world... We have been trolled... :/

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OP is lying, I just tryed to do the SAME thing as he/she did and if the world os full it "DOES NOT" Bring you to a a different world:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...orldisfull.png Before...

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...rldisfull2.png After...

Made sure I did it to my Mule in case something happened... what a joke :/....

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/airquotes Evidence is everything in the court of law! /airuotes

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/airquotes Evidence is everything in the court of law! /airuotes

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LOL, Indeed.. I made sure I "played" smart by selecting my to see if this was true.. what a troll LOL.

Feel free to pile up with the forum a-holes and call me an idiot for not reading the instructions properly, that's fine and expected. But don't make crap up and try to call me a liar. I selected Durandal, and was defaulted to Ragnarok. Period.

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Feel free to pile up with the forum a-holes and call me an idiot for not reading the instructions properly, that's fine and expected. But don't make crap up and try to call me a liar. I selected Durandal, and was defaulted to Ragnarok. Period.

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Make Crap up.. I have pictures for proof and did EVERYTHING LIKE YOU DID.. and Nothing happened to me.. I'm sorry but this is utter bull**** >.>

Edit: I also put my Mule on the line (which had alot of stuff on it by the way) to shed some light on this predicament :/

should make a video :P lol really.

I also experiment with a character I don't use any more. The OP made a mistake. Shouldn't blame/demand for help; Blame thy self, then please use the damn support centre, not the forum.

You need help here the link for that -> http://support.eu.square-enix.com/main.php?id=903&la=2

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say hello to Ragnarok for me

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This made me rofl! I'm so going to hell!

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I thought 1.21 would be a good time to check-in on FFXIV, what with jobs being released and all. I played FFXI for years, and was curious to see how they are progressing towards 2.0. I had been casually keeping tabs on whats going on, and I remember the server merger information being posted to twitter. Naturally, that's the first place I went when reactivating my account.. and was even present with a splash to do so.

My goal here was to make sure I remained on the SAME server with all my friends, and I figure this is the path I have to take. I try to set up a transfer to Durandal, which I now realize is the default server I would have been put on had I taken no action. Regardless, it tells me its full... which is not the problem.

The problem is: now I'm being defaulted to Ragnarok. Because apparently, since its the only server that isn't "full", you thought it would be a good idea to throw me there. On the official European server. Without my blessing. I contacted support through email, and they tell me theres no way to reverse this even though the merger hasn't taken place yet.

WHAT? I contact you a week in advance before anything has happened yet, and there's nothing you can do to stop the process? I never selected Ragnarok, and nowhere on the transfer information does it say that action is not required. Quite frankly I'm furious. I understand that technically it was my misunderstanding that put me in this predicament, but what kind of retarded system defaults a player to a server they didn't chose? Why would my default option not remain WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN? It's unacceptable, and quite frankly mind-boggling coming from a company/game attempting to rebuild it's reputation.

If this goes through, you have lost a customer for 2.0.

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I clearly read when talking about it that you do nothing if you don't want to be merged with another server. You simply must not have read what they said. Default is no action required. Doing otherwise jeopardizes your spot.

I've admitted multiple times, including in the original post, that it was my error for going by the original merger instructions and not the updated ones.

Now why can't (some of) you people realize that the merger hasn't even happened yet? And won't happen until two weeks after the mistake? Any other MMO company on the planet would have the capacity to fix this.

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I've admitted multiple times, including in the original post, that it was my error for going by the original merger instructions and not the updated ones.

Now why can't (some of) you people realize that the merger hasn't even happened yet? And won't happen until two weeks after the mistake? Any other MMO company on the planet would have the capacity to fix this.

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There is nothing to fix, unless you transferred off of the server you wanted to stay on, in which case, you should have read the instructions.

ITT: Tons of people who have never made a single mistake in their entire lives. I didn't realize the ff14 community was made up of so many perfect beings. I think those of us with flaws should be immediately ousted from this prestigious circle. I'm sure the game will do just fine with even less revenue.

Bye

/wave

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Originally Posted by Lalazura

I thought 1.21 would be a good time to check-in on FFXIV, what with jobs being released and all. I played FFXI for years, and was curious to see how they are progressing towards 2.0. I had been casually keeping tabs on whats going on, and I remember the server merger information being posted to twitter. Naturally, that's the first place I went when reactivating my account.. and was even present with a splash to do so.

My goal here was to make sure I remained on the SAME server with all my friends, and I figure this is the path I have to take. I try to set up a transfer to Durandal, which I now realize is the default server I would have been put on had I taken no action. Regardless, it tells me its full... which is not the problem.

The problem is: now I'm being defaulted to Ragnarok. Because apparently, since its the only server that isn't "full", you thought it would be a good idea to throw me there. On the official European server. Without my blessing. I contacted support through email, and they tell me theres no way to reverse this even though the merger hasn't taken place yet.

WHAT? I contact you a week in advance before anything has happened yet, and there's nothing you can do to stop the process? I never selected Ragnarok, and nowhere on the transfer information does it say that action is not required. Quite frankly I'm furious. I understand that technically it was my misunderstanding that put me in this predicament, but what kind of retarded system defaults a player to a server they didn't chose? Why would my default option not remain WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN? It's unacceptable, and quite frankly mind-boggling coming from a company/game attempting to rebuild it's reputation.

If this goes through, you have lost a customer for 2.0.

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You had months in advance to update your account, now you are flaming SE because you didnt care at that time, so why would they care about your account?

The rules were set a month in advance giving priority to US WHO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME, make a new character and choose the server that you wanted to stay or wait until 2.0

And i read that if you didnt do anything you will be moved to your same server by default, but in any case i stated my points.

Enjoy your new server!

i just dont get it why must QQ in forums when they can just spam the damn support centre.

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i just dont get it why must QQ in forums when they can just spam the damn support centre.

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In general discussion no less.

OP, what response were you expecting? General discussion is the forum the trolls hang out in, FYI.

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In general discussion no less.

OP, what response were you expecting? General discussion is the forum the trolls hang out in, FYI.

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its obvious, they want pity, they want to see if they can use us to get a bigger voice so that they can reverse their miustake

The OP knows s/he fucked up can we let s/he be?

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Feel free to pile up with the forum a-holes and call me an idiot for not reading the instructions properly, that's fine and expected. But don't make crap up and try to call me a liar. I selected Durandal, and was defaulted to Ragnarok. Period.

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I don't believe you were lying.
SE stated somewhere that if you try to transfer to a server and it becomes full, and your default server is already full they will put you somewhere else. This is the risk one takes for a transfer.
This was just a mistake that happened. You tried to transfer to a place you already were and gave up your spot because you were uninformed (for whatever reason.)
Doesn't make you a liar though. :x

Im moving to rag.I just came back after being away for a while,read that rag was for mainly eu,sounded good to me and so i selected it.then an hour later i make some nice friends,in a lovely ls and really enjoying myself.so thought i wud try and undo my selection but the time was up and im havin to move.my thing though,rag will be my third server,on each one ive met some lovely people and accepted into nice linkshells.i will do the same on this server.i was also the only one who left ffxi,so started ffxiv alone so to speak.sorry if ur not happy about whats happened,bt it seems nothing is goin to be done,so chin up,make some new friends and play the game.its not too difficult to type hi when you see another char.

This is the only issue that could make my friends and I quit. I joined FFXIV with a half dozen people, whom I directed to my server If these stupid merges force us to a different server, we will all be quitting. Our subs are yours to lose.

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Im moving to rag.I just came back after being away for a while,read that rag was for mainly eu,sounded good to me and so i selected it.then an hour later i make some nice friends,in a lovely ls and really enjoying myself.so thought i wud try and undo my selection but the time was up and im havin to move.my thing though,rag will be my third server,on each one ive met some lovely people and accepted into nice linkshells.i will do the same on this server.i was also the only one who left ffxi,so started ffxiv alone so to speak.sorry if ur not happy about whats happened,bt it seems nothing is goin to be done,so chin up,make some new friends and play the game.its not too difficult to type hi when you see another char.

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i just dont get it why must QQ in forums when they can just spam the damn support centre.

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If you read the OP, that was already done. And they didn't so squat because Square Enix has the worst customer support in gaming history.

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If you read the OP, that was already done. And they didn't so squat because Square Enix has the worst customer support in gaming history.

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that y i say why dont just spam the support centre.

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Originally Posted by Lalazura

I thought 1.21 would be a good time to check-in on FFXIV, what with jobs being released and all. I played FFXI for years, and was curious to see how they are progressing towards 2.0. I had been casually keeping tabs on whats going on, and I remember the server merger information being posted to twitter. Naturally, that's the first place I went when reactivating my account.. and was even present with a splash to do so.

My goal here was to make sure I remained on the SAME server with all my friends, and I figure this is the path I have to take. I try to set up a transfer to Durandal, which I now realize is the default server I would have been put on had I taken no action. Regardless, it tells me its full... which is not the problem.

The problem is: now I'm being defaulted to Ragnarok. Because apparently, since its the only server that isn't "full", you thought it would be a good idea to throw me there. On the official European server. Without my blessing. I contacted support through email, and they tell me theres no way to reverse this even though the merger hasn't taken place yet.

WHAT? I contact you a week in advance before anything has happened yet, and there's nothing you can do to stop the process? I never selected Ragnarok, and nowhere on the transfer information does it say that action is not required. Quite frankly I'm furious. I understand that technically it was my misunderstanding that put me in this predicament, but what kind of retarded system defaults a player to a server they didn't chose? Why would my default option not remain WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN? It's unacceptable, and quite frankly mind-boggling coming from a company/game attempting to rebuild it's reputation.

If this goes through, you have lost a customer for 2.0.

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http://youtu.be/_O1hM-k3aUY

shoulda read how it worked first. player error-all of you guys complaining about this fucked up and you can't reverse it...just like me deleting a whole retainer-shit, i lost everything i've worked towards since i started playing and i got over it in a couple hours; just really wish i could have my luminary and crown back >.>

oh and thanks for clearing that up, Starlord.