Which Job you want next?

I want a new healer, but seeing as how they are on a constant struggle with healers, I'm no longer getting my hopes up. However, if they do, I'd take Chemist over Geomancer any day. Chemist could be a fresh take, while Geomancer to me seems too similar to WHM (at least how it used to be).

I'm so excited for GEOMANCER!!!!

Geomancer for healer, using water spells to heal, earth spells to shield, fire and wind spells to dps

I like the idea of a new healer class, but I am thinking that it would interesting to make a Necromancer as a healer. The necro would be using his own life force to heal the other players, while the offensive set of skills would involve sapping energy/mana/health from the enemies to sustain the heals provided to PCs. It may even be interesting to have Life spell that brings players back quickly/cheaper than usual but adds some type of zombie effect for a limited time. Or even have a pet zombie... O.o


Also, I like the chemist job idea, but I was thinking it could be more of a DPS role that focuses on debuffs, kind of like the FF13 saboteur role. I think it would be interesting if the job gets more use out of all those damn POTs in some way, perhaps mixing certain potions will produce random effects to mobs or PCs??

Geomancer of course sounds like an interesting class. I liked the idea someone posted to make it a healer.

Time Mage. Especially now that there isn't any argument left on whether Astrologian fits that role now.

Beastmaster; uses an animal pet and a whip as weapon. A (melee) DPS class.
Trickster a mage class that uses illusions a bit like the Mesmer in GW2, weapon could be a mirror or something. Magical DPS class.
Onmyoji, a healer that uses talismans and can heal/ buff and put debuff on the enemy, like blessings and curses. Healer class.

Others could be Rune Knight, Puppetmaster and finally a class that is using the teased hammer as a weapon.

To be honest I would prefer no new jobs. They cant seem to balance the jobs we currently have very good. Adding more just makes it worse.

How about a melee healer? Heal spells are obviously ranged, but attacks are melee and taking/dealing damage increases healing potency. Something interesting like that.

Geomancer.

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Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo

I like the idea of a new healer class, but I am thinking that it would interesting to make a Necromancer as a healer. The necro would be using his own life force to heal the other players, while the offensive set of skills would involve sapping energy/mana/health from the enemies to sustain the heals provided to PCs. It may even be interesting to have Life spell that brings players back quickly/cheaper than usual but adds some type of zombie effect for a limited time. Or even have a pet zombie... O.o


Also, I like the chemist job idea, but I was thinking it could be more of a DPS role that focuses on debuffs, kind of like the FF13 saboteur role. I think it would be interesting if the job gets more use out of all those damn POTs in some way, perhaps mixing certain potions will produce random effects to mobs or PCs??

Geomancer of course sounds like an interesting class. I liked the idea someone posted to make it a healer.

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That's not a terrible idea, but it uses D&D/Pathfinder logic over Final Fantasy logic.

In other games Necromancy is used for healing and raising the dead. In Final Fantasy the "Necromancy" spells are all treated as evil and anti-life. The undead take damage from healing magic and are outright killed from raise dead spells.

Necromancy in Final Fantasy would wholly be DPS or possibly Tank. As in draining enemy health to heal themselves.

FYI - The Final Fantasy Necromancy spells are:

Demi - Reduces enemy HP by a percentage (probably too powerful for an MMO)

Drain - Deals damage and self-help for the same amount.

Doom - Percentage chance to kills target instantly - Too powerful for an mmorpg.

Sever - Appeared as various incarnations, this turns a target into a zombie that attacks mindlessly and inflicts the zombie condition that grants the same weaknesses and advantages as undead.

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I'm a lorephile - So I want to see new things added that are derived from the existant Final Fantasy lore whenever possible.

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Some people mentioned "Advanced Classes/Jobs" and I'm down with that as an idea. There was precedent for this in the original Final Fantasy. After finding the Rat's Tail artifact for the dragon Bahamut the party was empowered to new classes.

Warrior -> Knight (Paladin)
Monk -> Master
Thief -> Ninja
White/Black/Red Mage -> White/Black/Red Wizard

As these are all upgrades to base classes, I'd like to see something similar for the next expansion, but focused on the base jobs.

Warrior, Paladin, Dragoon, Monk, Ninja, Bard, Black Mage, White Mage, Summoner, Scholar

So, how I would do it, would be something like:

(All require level 80 base class and start at level 50)

Warrior -> Weapon Master
Paladin -> Holy Knight
Monk -> Master
Ninja -> Shinobi
Bard -> Spellsinger
Black/White Mage -> Black/White Wizard
Summoner -> Incarnate (basically channels summons through themselves)
Scholar -> Philosopher

(I had to invent names for some of these since they had no FF comparison.)

Each would make the base job into a hybrid. Basically base class, so the abilities of the base job to 50, then new role powers from 50-level cap

Weapon Master: Tank/Melee DPS
Holy Knight: Tank/Defensive Buffer
Master: Meele DPS/Tank
Shinobi: Ranged DPS/Debuffer
Spellsinger: Ranged DPS/Healer
White Wizard: Healer/Ranged DPS
Black Wizard: Ranged DPS/Offensive Buffer
Incarnate: Ranged DPS/Defensive Buffer
Philosopher: Healer/Offensive Buffer

Basically the "secondary role" works in a passive manner - Similar to how jobs like Dancer are Ranged DPS/Offensive Buffer.

So Weaponmaster would be not quite as tanky as a tank (but still tanky) but with more damage.

Holy Knight would be not quite as Tanky, but have spells that up their, and their party's defenses.

The Master would gain some tanky abilities. Etc etc

Some kind of barbarian/berserker type job that uses axes/a warhammer.

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Originally Posted by Cojika

Some kind of barbarian/berserker type job that uses axes/a warhammer.

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That would be the warrior my dude.

A Harlequin/Juggler job class

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Garlean Heavy Gunblade user, melee DPS.

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Gunbreaker job quest trainer is clearly very bias, how could you honestly describe that weapon or the fighting style used as "just a gun with a blade attached"? :confused:

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I honestly still see the Garlean Gunblade Job more towards Lightning's play style thus it would fit into being the 2nd Job that shares gears with Ninja being a melee DEX based job.

less focus on being the Heavy hitter like Regula and more towards fast slash attacks with fast gunshots from the Gunblade in quick combos.


Gunbreaker follows more on Squall's play style which is being the more mid-speed slash attacks to build up for the Mid-speed explosive attacks due to the nature of the Gunbreaker's gunblade.

Geomancer healer. Its totally coming. Especially after the Astro 80 quests hints again this expansion ;D

Transforming job, iirc some ancient lore in FFXIV talked about people who grafted monster parts onto themselves, there is a certain character that sort of morphs, but talking of inspiration outside of FFXIV- Harmonixer (Shadow Hearts), Vincent (FF7), Dante (DMC), Terra (FFVI, Esperkin), etc- I'd like to shift forms :3. Sort of a internal summoner. Made vague desires in a thread, but honestly I'd probably take whatever lol.

Sort of want to see a job or at least an armor option inspired by Ex Death and Golbez, a tank mage job could be quite fun but we just got a tank.. so maybe a mage using dragoon armor? Could just be a glamour option for mages but I feel there could be a lot of fun there, like a geomancer knight sort of concept (with mixes of gravity and other elements). On the of subject of armors, Judge armors when? :D? <3

I don't really play healers but I can just hear the servers imploding if there is no healer next expansion lol.

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Originally Posted by AlliciaCapulet

There is already 4 melee dps and they used the argument that a ranged dps was needed to balance things. So, don't expect any melee DPS. So far we have:
4 tanks
3 healers
4 melee DPS
3 ranged DPS
3 casters
1 limited job/caster

They have to release a healer, at the time of the 6.0, this will make 6 years since the last healer job, so it's the most in need role for a new job.
After that, I'd guess another caster. Or maybe another ranged DPS but I doubt it since they just released one, but to balance everything, that's what they have to release.

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I guess the next 2 jobs will be limited jobs then to bring everything up to 3 lol.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I honestly still see the Garlean Gunblade Job more towards Lightning's play style thus it would fit into being the 2nd Job that shares gears with Ninja being a melee DEX based job.

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Someone needs to share that heavy melee gear with Dragoon though.

Personally I don't tend to factor in main stat or gear, the primary stats and the maiming and scouting sets all seem to exist for primarily cosmetic reasons anyway.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

less focus on being the Heavy hitter like Regula and more towards fast slash attacks with fast gunshots from the Gunblade in quick combos.

Gunbreaker follows more on Squall's play style which is being the more mid-speed slash attacks to build up for the Mid-speed explosive attacks due to the nature of the Gunbreaker's gunblade.

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I think the heavy option is cooler, and I think the melees are more lacking for another heavy option than another fast one, but mostly I was going for maximum differentiation from Gunbreaker gunblades tbh.
The odds of getting a second gunblade class are already incredibly slim.

I think a new healer even though I do not play them very often it would be nice for the healers amongst us.

I think maybe Puppetmaster would be good but not as a limited job or beastmaster.

Geomancer would be nice, could be DPS or healer depending on what game they work it off of (FFT vs FF11 geo is very different).

They did state 3 jobs at once was too much but they also released Rogue/Ninja on 2.4 and then 3 jobs on 3.0. We only got 2 jobs in 4.0 but got the limited job BLU on 4.5 just before 2 jobs on 5.0.

I think the real issue was how close nin was to ast/drk/mch. With how close blu was to dnc/gnb, especially with how massively they overhauled the combat system details I don't think 3 jobs would be too much. Especially if they don't change gears halfway through development like they did chemist. I mean Machinist.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Someone needs to share that heavy melee gear with Dragoon though.

Personally I don't tend to factor in main stat or gear, the primary stats and the maiming and scouting sets all seem to exist for primarily cosmetic reasons anyway.



I think the heavy option is cooler, and I think the melees are more lacking for another heavy option than another fast one, but mostly I was going for maximum differentiation from Gunbreaker gunblades tbh.
The odds of getting a second gunblade class are already incredibly slim.

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Depends on the creativity of the Developers though.

Squall and Lightning's Gunblade gameplay style are very different to a point they can create Two Gunblade Jobs but name the weapons differently due to their design with Squall being more of Explosive heavy mid-speed hits with Magic ammo as the Squall gunbalde tend to focus on transfering Magic energy from Magic ammo into the Blade while Lightning's gunblade combat style has been about high speed slash and gunshot combo as her Gunblade is deisgned with a functional Gun as part of its design thus the Lightning Gunblade is more towards a different design focusing on getting in and out fast.

Naming the weapon something else isn't hard since they only need Gun.... Weapon that should be related to a sword in some way such as GunEdge Weapon

Necromancer as a melee healer job. Have them rip out aether from the targets to heal others with their scythe weapon. Since pets got reworked, have their “pet” be a skeleton warrior that prioritize damage and mitigation and/or a ghost of some kind that uses the aether ripped out to aoe heal.

I just want scholar back tbh. Other than that, I'd live to see a time mage that could stop time, just for the massive amount of Jojo memes it would inspire. (Though, I'm aware, that would be impossible to balance.)

I'd also be down to have a straight up poison mage. Like summoner, but no pets. Just 5-6 dots and an entire rotation/kit based around those dots and maximizing their damage.

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Originally Posted by Billythepancake

I'd also be down to have a straight up poison mage. Like summoner, but no pets. Just 5-6 dots and an entire rotation/kit based around those dots and maximizing their damage.

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sounds like maximum engaging gameplay

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

if they do do rune knight I'd honestly hope it was a healer sorry dps people but healers are taking this. the idea of a healer that can absorb magic to keep going would be kinda cool.

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A plate-mail-wearing, two-handed sword user who absorbs magic attacks made against them... as a healer?

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

A plate-mail-wearing, two-handed sword user who absorbs magic attacks made against them... as a healer?

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They could use the Rune concept without 2-h sword and add a "twist" to it, in letting the Rune Knight also have runic spells (similar to FF5's Mystic Knight) where he imbues himself with healing magic and a class-specific passive that makes each of his attack heal the party by whatever amount is reasonable, or has the option to apply rune skills to a party member/the whole party. Give them a mace and off-hand books and call it "Rune Priest". Sorry I'm as creative as a potato. Making it something like an offensive healer. But I dunno how to add enough skills/spells to conform to XIV's "button bloat" or how it could transate usefully to high-end endgame content as I don't care about this type of content.

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

sounds like maximum engaging gameplay

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Heh, not sure if that's sarcasm or not. I just like dots, man, so an entire class focused around dots sounds like fun to me.

For the next jobs I'd like:

• A whip-wielding Beastmaster (Not limited!)
• and a concoction mixing Chemist.

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Originally Posted by Tanama

For the next jobs I'd like:

• A whip-wielding Beastmaster (Not limited!)
• and a concoction mixing Chemist.

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Just playing the devil's advocate, but I really think that BST if ever gets implemented will inevitably fall into the limited category, due to the whole "minigame" aspect that combat pets can potentially represent. : /

a mage tank job suggest crystal mage an avoid tank the can create weapon or summon weapon to wield a magic weapon can duel weild them

beastmaster limit puppetmaster limit

make limit jobs able to do dungeon with each other,

upgrade to summoner,

Hmmm... well, we know 6.0 is happening (which bring us to 90) and following that, 7.0 will take us to 99/100, whichever they decided to cap at. Which means that's about four new jobs, not counting limited. Yoshi-P said they want everything as balanced between the five roles as possible.

A healer and either a caster or melee DPS (maiming or scouting, probably maiming) for 6.0, and then for 7.0 a Ranged and either caster/melee, whichever we didn't get in 6.

Healer- Green Mage, basically the Healing version of Red Mage, wielding a magic hammer or mace. Have like, 'white cures' that buff the party and 'black cures' that heal the party and damage the enemy.

Melee- Rune Knight, drawing inspiration from Zidane's Dyne techniques and using Dual Blades. I'd like to see it using the heavier Maiming armor, but scouting could work too.

Ranged- Corsair. How'd I'd like to see it would be basically the opposite of red mage, staying up close until it's ranged burst phase.

Caster- Geomancer. I just think it'd work better as a caster than a healer, personally. Outside of that... a caster that has chain bonuses for spells like melee do for their weapon skills. The instant casts would cut down on initial potency, but adding bonuses would make it worth it. And the combos would fill their gauge to allow them to use bigger spells that did have cast times.

Or a Time Mage that was basically the buffing DPS mage. Actually, combined that last idea with Time Mage, and it might work. High utility, low personal DPS

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Originally Posted by dynus

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If 6.0 ends up being the Finale for the Zodiark vs Hydaelyn Arc (aka Season 1 storyline) it will certianly open up a wider option for job lore with Season 2 storyline due to completely new characters (potentially to replace the Scions for Season 2), new lands, and new antagonists (now that the Ascians and Zodiark are gone). Not to mention potential unknown grounds with lore for those new Jobs in these new unknown lands.