FF15 Event -- "Monolith Warp" Mechanic is still broken

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Originally Posted by Ekimmak

That doesn't work either.

Because of Latency. The draw-in is so frequent, it registers me as "not behind the pillar" before it registers "me running behind the pillar".

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Yes it does. You can't tell me Latency when I run on a toaster that barely chugs at 15fps. Dusk Vigil, once behind a pillar, locks you against it. Even if she tugs back, you would not be tugged. you're locked behind it.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Yes it does. You can't tell me Latency when I run on a toaster that barely chugs at 15fps. Dusk Vigil, once behind a pillar, locks you against it. Even if she tugs back, you would not be tugged. you're locked behind it.

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Actually, the pillars in this fight don't lock you behind them.... which is why this is a timing thing ^.^'

When I passed I wasn't even behind the pillar... just on it from warp striking to it and out of the aoe Garuda casts with no ground marker.

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Originally Posted by WaterShield

Actually, the pillars in this fight don't lock you behind them.... which is why this is a timing thing ^.^'

When I passed I wasn't even behind the pillar... just on it from warp striking to it and out of the aoe Garuda casts with no ground marker.

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That is what I am saying.

Garuda pillars =/= lock
Dusk Vigil = lock

Unless I'm crazy and remembering it all wrong (it's an old fight after all) the Griffin Boss of DV has a draw in attack just like Garudas. You get behind a pillar, and you are safe from being pulled into the tornado the Griffin causes. Garuda does not have the safety barrier, so you have to time it or get lucky.

I've been struggling with this as well. I've managed to win thanks to powering through, but I'll be glad when I am done doing the events on my alts. It may be my system or lag or what, but half the time I die to her ult, and the other half it brings me to triple digits so I have to run around while I WoL regen and hope I have enough health to survive the next stack mechanic. I personally feel like its not a skill issue, since I don't normally have issues with fights at all, but something about the fight does not play well with that attack and my situation I guess. Even waiting and watching her bar doesn't seem to really affect if i live or die for that.

.. I don't understand. Did everyone miss the part where they TOLD you to use the warp to get out of the AOE? You can basically spam it on the pillars to avoid her big one.

The whole fight uses common mechanics and Noctis even explains them if you mess up. The only new thing is the warp strike which he demo's for you.

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Originally Posted by Ekimmak

As someone with pretty terrible latency, I can say "this is not fun".

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What's you're latency at? Mine is 180+ and I did it just fine on RDM first try. Also did it as war after, also beat it first try on that, and had no problem with the draw in effects.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

What's you're latency at? Mine is 180+ and I did it just fine on RDM first try. Also did it as war after, also beat it first try on that, and had no problem with the draw in effects.

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180 is me on a VERY good day. My latency tends to be all over the place due to distance, but I know that it wasn't enough to get out of the point blank before it decides how much damage I take.

I tank savage because everything is predictable, after all.

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Originally Posted by adalovegirls

EDIT: Oh look, I tried with my PLD another time (SAM before) and I survived the blast fine, but Noctis died 10 seconds after. This battle is just poorly designed. You can't rely on the player to heal Noctis, because not all classes can heal well if at all, and apparently the AI isn't good enough either, because he shouldn't be dying. Also, it is BS to either require using a tank, having a character level 60 or higher so you have enough HP to not be one shot by her attack there, or having sub-one second accuracy on a warp to avoid dying.

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I didn't heal him at all, I played as WAR. Shake it Off doesn't even affect him.
He lived just fine.

I don't know what you're doing differently. It's quite strange.

I did the mechanic in question incorrectly as DRG and survived with 5% hp and still won the fight. Killed Garuda and Noctis still had 30-40% hp.

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Originally Posted by Gumpy

It's not worth discussing though, it's literally just "yo relax and stop being bad".

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I am not a bad player and I did not have any problems with the fight before that or the fight itself. But I still needed three tries because seemingly the AOE still counted me in it even when I was standing behind the pillar when it hit. I did nothing different each time and yet somehow on the third try it was fine. So this is not about being bad. Its just about a timing that is not told beforehand. (And that depends on latency too)

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

.. I don't understand. Did everyone miss the part where they TOLD you to use the warp to get out of the AOE? You can basically spam it on the pillars to avoid her big one.

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You really can't, tho. That's the issue everyone has. It's on GCD (pretty sure) so you can't just use it instantly over and over; there's a few moments of waiting between use. And if you're trying to spam it but you get pulled by the last draw in immediately after you've warped, you're really not left with enough time to get away to avoid fatal or near-fatal damage. And evidently latency issues compound the problem.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

You really can't, tho. That's the issue everyone has. It's on GCD (pretty sure) so you can't just use it instantly over and over; there's a few moments of waiting between use. And if you're trying to spam it but you get pulled by the last draw in immediately after you've warped, you're really not left with enough time to get away to avoid fatal or near-fatal damage. And evidently latency issues compound the problem.

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I mean.. you can't warpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarp but I avoided it just by triggering it every time I heard the "BEEEOOOooowww" suck noise. I've always got crap ping too (I live at least 2k+ miles from any data center) , I couldn't do Titan extreme till they toned it down because by the time his AOE's showed I already got hit. In this event I've done it on 3 characters and never wiped once.

The wait-until-just-before-cast-completes method worked best for me; but I think the encounter may just be a little bit buggy, period.

I first ran it on my Warrior, to learn the order of the mechanics. Screwed up quite a bit figuring things out, but just plowed through it. I then ran it on six other toons, all of varying jobs and roles, with no trouble at all.

When I got to my eighth and final character, my little Ninja? Died four times, all of them to the draw-in. Tried the usual timing: Splat. Tried the "pulse" version of the timing, described above: Splat. Tried leading the cast completion a bit, to allow for any latency problem I wasn't seeing: Splat. Clearly escaped the cast and draws, and was in fact standing fully behind the pillar when it completed: Splat.

I only finished it on the 5th try, when I got lucky and managed to live through the blast damage with a sliver of health remaining. YMMV, folks, and it may vary a great deal.

The problem is all solo fights are made for the highest SB stuff. With regular 50 stuff... the fights last but last... it is so loooong boring.

Seriously SE the two fight are long and boring, don't give so many HP to so boring bosses. We don't wipe because fights are hard but of the ridiculous high HP of bosses and ridiculous Noctis DPS. We fall asleep of routine. Shorter, maybe easier, but funnier! fight would have been better.

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Originally Posted by Eldevern

The problem is all solo fights are made for the highest SB stuff. With regular 50 stuff... the fights last but last... it is so loooong boring.

Seriously SE the two fight are long and boring, don't give so many HP to so boring bosses. We don't wipe because fights are hard but of the ridiculous high HP of bosses and ridiculous Noctis DPS. We fall asleep of routine. Shorter, maybe easier, but funnier! fight would have been better.

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I thought the two fights were short already.

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Originally Posted by linay

I thought the two fights were short already.

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Did you tried with an alt at level 50 with its regular gear (I mean a ilvl around 50/70)? It is what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by Eldevern

Did you tried with an alt at level 50 with its regular gear (I mean a ilvl around 50/70)? It is what I'm talking about.

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In that case, if they make it shorter for 50, it will be even shorter for 70 synced when it's already short.

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Originally Posted by Eldevern

The problem is all solo fights are made for the highest SB stuff. With regular 50 stuff... the fights last but last... it is so loooong boring.

Seriously SE the two fight are long and boring, don't give so many HP to so boring bosses. We don't wipe because fights are hard but of the ridiculous high HP of bosses and ridiculous Noctis DPS. We fall asleep of routine. Shorter, maybe easier, but funnier! fight would have been better.

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If you continue to 'link-strike' Garuda with Noctis, her HP melts away. Don't just use it to get away from her AoEs. Use it every time he does.

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Originally Posted by Eldevern

Did you tried with an alt at level 50 with its regular gear (I mean a ilvl around 50/70)? It is what I'm talking about.

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Don't the quests at that level award you with the i90 artifact gear at this point?

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

Don't the quests at that level award you with the i90 artifact gear at this point?

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One could also buy i115 gear from vendors these days. It's not HQ but it's significantly better than i70 stuff.

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Originally Posted by ElianaGoldstein

Failing wouldn't be so bad if not for that fact that Garuda has WAAAAAAAY too much HP... I near fell asleep chipping away at her with a teaspoon until she does the AoE. Will try again later I guess, going to do something that isn't irritating for now.

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That's because you have to time your attacks with Noctis in order to deal a lot of dmg to Garuda. Doing link strikes speeds up the battle a lot.

As for the OP problem, have you tried going to the monolith opposite to the one that Noctis jumps to? It seems that's the one you have to jump to, also stay behind the monoloth before the AoE goes off. That's how I survived and I also had a lot of trouble with the fight till I tried that.

If you still have problems after that, try posting in the bugs forum.

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

Don't the quests at that level award you with the i90 artifact gear at this point?

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It's a bit later, you have access to the event immediatly after Meridianum and Praetorium. The i90 stuff is to prepare HW and so, then we get them later (we still get i70 and higher pieces step by step following the ARR MSQ after Prae).

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Originally Posted by Eldevern

It's a bit later, you have access to the event immediatly after Meridianum and Praetorium. The i90 stuff is to prepare HW and so, then we get them later (we still get i70 and higher pieces step by step following the ARR MSQ after Prae).

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That's not quite true - you get the ilvl 90 left side from your level 50 job quest, which you should be able to do as soon as you hit level 50. It's in the coffer that is part of the job quest rewards. Right side and weapon, you either have to purchase or do quests to get them.

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Originally Posted by Brynne

That's not quite true - you get the ilvl 90 left side from your level 50 job quest, which you should be able to do as soon as you hit level 50. It's in the coffer that is part of the job quest rewards. Right side and weapon, you either have to purchase or do quests to get them.

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To be fair, I kinda rush my alts. I suppose I'm confusing with the right side and 110 we can get through MSQ before HW. I solved the problem buying NM or HQ gear sold for cheap on the market. A ilvl around 90 is pretty enough, 70 is a bit short, especially for the boss in East Shroud. Now there are less lags, Garuda is easier.