So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

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Originally Posted by KHMarie

Even better, it's like 9 am and I'm running on nothing but yeah this point as well. If it's a BLU only weapon he wouldn't be able to wield it unless he was one himself.

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maybe he wasnt a bluemage before , so he beat this enemy in the colloseum and took his weapons , if his enemy was a bluemage he couldve also taken not only his weapons , but his jobcrystal aswell and so becoming a bluemage and be able to wield the weapons ^^

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Originally Posted by NoctisShiva

maybe he wasnt a bluemage before , so he beat this enemy in the colloseum and took his weapons , if his enemy was a bluemage he couldve also taken not only his weapons , but his jobcrystal aswell and so becoming a bluemage and be able to wield the weapons ^^

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It's very possible.

No matter how you look at it though, no matter how he got it, he has it and that means something. His abilities and actions mean something so I don't think they should be dicredited. I think it would actually be very interesting if it was BLU and he had a part in your Job quest.

Now again, despite my vouching for BLU I'm not against SAM being the choice for the other class if that is what ends up being chosen. I just personally think BLU would work far better with what we have to work with, even if it means being released alongside RDM.

I think Yoshi's biggest hint is that he wanted to keep the red theme on his spiderman shirt. Why? I believe he wants you to think Red Mage because spiderman also has blue on his outfit. So im guessing he was trying to lean our thinking to a mage.

Obviously like others said Spider=Creature and spiderman got his powers by being bit by a spider and now uses the spider powers.

I think the samurai theory is valid but not consistent. Why would Yoshi simply not use Katana from DC or a more direct (and less vague) hint? The most logical explanation i can see to justify samurai is that he was hinting at both Blue Mage and Samurai.

Reading half these theories, I imagine a lot of your walls look like this:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20151013123837

To be fair, it is fun to speculate, but...wow.

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Originally Posted by Galaktica

Reading half these theories, I imagine a lot of your walls look like this:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20151013123837

To be fair, it is fun to speculate, but...wow.

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Sir, why are you in my house taking pictures? ARE YOU HINTING AT A PHOTOGRAPHER CLASS?!

Either Blue Mage or a original FFXIV class (which is something that I was expecting them to release at the first expansion.)

SE is just trying to hint at the fact that they're now hiring Web Designers.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more basic it seems. Spiderman is outfitted in red and blue. It could be as simple as that.

The other thing, is didn't they originally say back before Heavensward that they were trying to decide between Dark Knight and Samurai, and they chose Dark Knight. If we are really only getting 2 new jobs, what would be more likely a tank and a DPS, or two DPS?

Samurai.

Yoshi P has already stated he wants Samurai to be included in the next expansion as the Tank.

I'm surprised people always forget this.

He has also stated that BLU isn't likely to happen anytime soon since it wouldn't work well with the system we have in place.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

I think Yoshi's biggest hint is that he wanted to keep the red theme on his spiderman shirt. Why? I believe he wants you to think Red Mage because spiderman also has blue on his outfit. So im guessing he was trying to lean our thinking to a mage.

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Red Mage has already, basically, been confirmed with his Scarlet Witch T-Shirt.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more basic it seems. Spiderman is outfitted in red and blue. It could be as simple as that.

The other thing, is didn't they originally say back before Heavensward that they were trying to decide between Dark Knight and Samurai, and they chose Dark Knight. If we are really only getting 2 new jobs, what would be more likely a tank and a DPS, or two DPS?

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The rising event had 2 npc's talking to each other about red and blue mage while the yoshida npc mentioned samurai and red mage. There may be 2 jobs but they hinted at 3.

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Originally Posted by Rivxkobe

Samurai.

Yoshi P has already stated he wants Samurai to be included in the next expansion as the Tank.

I'm surprised people always forget this.

He has also stated that BLU isn't likely to happen anytime soon since it wouldn't work well with the system we have in place.



Red Mage has already, basically, been confirmed with his Scarlet Witch T-Shirt.

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I'm not saying he is hinting to Red Mage job. I am saying that he wants us to think of a mage when we look at the spiderman shirt.

And where did he say that blue mage isnt likely to happen? I never saw this. Can you please link a source?

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Originally Posted by Radacci

how does dancer fit into this expansion? ala mhigans dancing with joy at being oppressed by garlemald?

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I'm not saying I think it will be DNC, because I don't, but it wouldn't so much be 'dancing with joy' as it is covert martial training disguised as dance.

Although a melee healer would add something new to the healer role.

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Originally Posted by Rivxkobe

Samurai.

Yoshi P has already stated he wants Samurai to be included in the next expansion as the Tank.

I'm surprised people always forget this.

He has also stated that BLU isn't likely to happen anytime soon since it wouldn't work well with the system we have in place.



Red Mage has already, basically, been confirmed with his Scarlet Witch T-Shirt.

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Not 'basically confirmed', this is the RDM reveal and snippet of RDM gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6e_YTfV2w8

OK, I was kinda stumped by the shirt at first too. I even looked into the Japanese version of Spiderman and his samurai like mech, leopardon to see if there was a connection there. But the more I think about it the more I think it was their way of simply saying "...And blue". Didn't the official translation say that Yoshi-P said "Red is the main color of Spiderman's outfit and red is the theme of Stormblood." But Spiderman's outfit is red AND blue.

That along with what everyone is saying about how he gets his powers from something he can then emulate, makes me start to lean more towards a blue mage.

So in short I think Yoshi-P was trying to tell us "Yeah... Stormblood has Red Mage, but it's also going to have blue."

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Originally Posted by Powercow

Edit - Oh, and Red Mages have effectively no in-game lore right now either. But I have faith the dev team will take the NIN approach and add some for them leading up to it, or they'll take the MCH approach and have it come out of nowhere and fit perfectly.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the little slide said they used a mix of Black and White magic, yes? My husband pointed out that the BLM quests in HW (I haven't done them yet) involve a rivalry between black mages and white mages. He suspects that the red mage story might pick up from that thread. It makes sense to me.

I'll leave this here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...yoship_on_the/

For you youngins, the original Spiderman theme went....

"Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can...."

He was attacked (bitten) by a monster (a spider) and gained it's powers. Also for the non-comicbook fans there have been over the last few years storylines involving the "web of life". Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it was for Blue Mage and that the lore will involve "shamans tapping into the web of life for power." Hence, Blue Mage.

my feelings are more towards Beastmaster, with whips. Flayer (whips) was supposed to be one of the original classes in the game. We already have one pet class in the game and expanding on it is doable. Second reason is that I believe Yoshida is highly against adding Blue Mage in to FFXIV. The complexity of Blue mage will likely make blue mage the only job added when they do add it. It will take far more resources to make blue mage then it will to make any other job.

If this is a hint, it is likely something about the super hero that relates to a Final Fantasy job. Him talking about the director is likely to throw everyone off.

While spiderman got his powers from a spider, he is not Rogue who is more likely to be character they would use for Blue Mage. Spiderman slings webs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...oship_on_the/?

Yoshida straight up said it has nothing to do with the directors...soo, how is this Samurai related?

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Originally Posted by Iromi

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...oship_on_the/?

Yoshida straight up said it has nothing to do with the directors...soo, how is this Samurai related?

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I would honestly wait for a full translation, There are some weird guesses by people. But with what partial translations I'm seeing, he's either saying it doesn't have to do with the director and he knows there are multiple directors to the spiderman films, or the spiderman shirt has nothing to do with jobs. But that's merely a guess so take it with a grain of salt there folks. Salt shakers are your friends in this world of hints and teasers.

EDIT! Holy crap, I can post again! Stupid post limits...

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Originally Posted by StarRosie

I would honestly wait for a full translation, There are some weird guesses by people. But with what partial translations I'm seeing, he's either saying it doesn't have to do with the director and he knows there are multiple directors to the spiderman films, or the spiderman shirt has nothing to do with jobs. But that's merely a guess so take it with a grain of salt there folks. Salt shakers are your friends in this world of hints and teasers.

EDIT! Holy crap, I can post again! Stupid post limits...

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There is a full translation up in that thread :)

Also I can read it and can confirm that is what it says. Anyway though he says to use our imagination haha ^^

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Originally Posted by Radacci

how does dancer fit into this expansion? ala mhigans dancing with joy at being oppressed by garlemald?
the "dancer" in stormblood trailer, isn't a dancer, she's a monk, just like derplander; she's not dancing, she's practicing martial art stances...like they do in every single asian martial arts movie, that's ever been made.
do they need to hint at jobs, in ARR, before they can release it in 5.0? do they need to patch in hints a year in advance?

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Dancer fits in easily. Seeing as how they showed derplander as a monk and the girl in the red dancing, someone offered a really interesting theory - That the Ala Mhigo people taught dancers to fight so the Garleans wouldn't take notice. So while it looks like people are dancing they are actually training them as fighters :P If they did that I would be impressed...it's a pretty rad idea. Far fetched..I dunno, but its creative at least.

I took martial arts from Jason Frank..he taught me how to dance and fight. It's not that far fetched..lol and as an actress I have had quite a lot of roles where they ask me to dance and fight, like how the girl in red did. It is not unheard of. :P

And no, she is not a "monk" she is nothing as of right now. Yoshida already said he is not commenting whatsoever on what she is and we will find out in 3.5. Please stop posting false info.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...oship_on_the/?

Yoshida straight up said it has nothing to do with the directors...soo, how is this Samurai related?

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The no relation part referred to the t-shirt itself.

He also said the same regarding Scarlet Witch t shirt, that he wore it because he liked the character, during Las Vegas Fanfest.

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Originally Posted by mosaicex

The no relation part referred to the t-shirt itself.

He also said the same regarding Scarlet Witch t shirt, that he wore it because he liked the character, during Las Vegas Fanfest.

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Yup. He is the ultimate troll lol.

He must love reading this thread and the one on reddit haha. But it was the part about the directors which stuck out to me...anyway I guess we will see in 55 days (II think? the fanfest) in Germany ^^

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Originally Posted by Syll

I'm not saying I think it will be DNC, because I don't, but it wouldn't so much be 'dancing with joy' as it is covert martial training disguised as dance.

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Dancer = Capoeira using tank confirmed.

https://youtu.be/TtV-XPZZ3F4

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Originally Posted by mosaicex

He also said the same regarding Scarlet Witch t shirt, that he wore it because he liked the character, during Las Vegas Fanfest.

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...SpecificDenial

While I don't have the translation on hand, if he did specifically bring up the director in some way, it was almost certainly for a reason. If it wasn't related to the job(SamuRaimi), then he could've very easily let the community distract itself away from other possible candidates. By specifically denying the director name, he's in fact leaving clues to direct attention in a certain direction.

Or it could just be a Red Herring.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedHerring

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

I'm gonna go with E) "None of the Above", because...

A) Sam Raimi suggestion is a bit too much of a stretch,

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you kind of need to stretch it with spiderman...cause there's nothing else obvious that comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

outside this, redmage is not a blade dps, it's mage dps that have a few melee attack, it was said while the key note, using chain magic, before do a melee attack and finish with chain magic, even in the video it's clear, you wee the redmage mix the two, here i'm talking of a pure physical blade class, it's one of the most iconic stuff of the ff franchise and we haven't get one yet, what it's a big let's down.

ps: i highly suspect the red mage to be a piercing dps by the way

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if it's caster, it's not going to do piercing damage -for convenience it's going to be int based magic damage, unless it has a bunch of melee combos - but it seems it's only using sword skills as a combo finisher, to jump back.
well we'll see.

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Originally Posted by Sanghelios

I guess its Dancer. The strings could mean a whip as weapon.

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that's the biggest leap in logic i have seen in a long time...

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Originally Posted by Rivxkobe

Samurai.

Yoshi P has already stated he wants Samurai to be included in the next expansion as the Tank.

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he also said they were considering drk and sam for tank in HW, and decided to make drk as tank "instead"
he also said, SAM feels more like a DPS, so if they add it, it will likely be DPS.

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Originally Posted by Syll

Although a melee healer would add something new to the healer role.

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there it is again....hybrid job=DOESN'T WORK IN FFXIV (unless you mean that healer has melee ranged heals, and need to melee-heal tanks, which would kill the healer more times than not)

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Originally Posted by Iromi

Dancer fits in easily. Seeing as how they showed derplander as a monk and the girl in the red dancing, someone offered a really interesting theory - That the Ala Mhigo people taught dancers to fight so the Garleans wouldn't take notice. So while it looks like people are dancing they are actually training them as fighters :P If they did that I would be impressed...it's a pretty rad idea. Far fetched..I dunno, but its creative at least.

I took martial arts from Jason Frank..he taught me how to dance and fight. It's not that far fetched..lol and as an actress I have had quite a lot of roles where they ask me to dance and fight, like how the girl in red did. It is not unheard of. :P

And no, she is not a "monk" she is nothing as of right now. Yoshida already said he is not commenting whatsoever on what she is and we will find out in 3.5. Please stop posting false info.

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That's the history of Kapoeira, so it's not a rad and far fetched idea, and yes it would work....but derplander is monk, and she's fighting him in the same way, so she IS monk - it's the theme of the expansion, and the trailer is an expansion/job trailer, and you have 2 monks fighting in a very monk-like setting (i heard that yoshi even said at the time of the trailer release, that they both were monks, though i have no idea if that's true)
If you know anything about Chinese and Japanese martial arts, you know that martial artists are always practicing forms through "dance-like motions" that doesn't make them dancers; that's like saying that bodybuilders are athletes, because they warm up by stretching.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

That's the history of Kapoeira, so it's not a rad and far fetched idea, and yes it would work....but derplander is monk, and she's fighting him in the same way, so she IS monk - it's the theme of the expansion, and the trailer is an expansion/job trailer, and you have 2 monks fighting in a very monk-like setting (i heard that yoshi even said at the time of the trailer release, that they both were monks, though i have no idea if that's true)
If you know anything about Chinese and Japanese martial arts, you know that martial artists are always practicing forms through "dance-like motions" that doesn't make them dancers; that's like saying that bodybuilders are athletes, because they warm up by stretching.

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It's rad to me..lol opinions are subjective you know? Or are you not aware of that? Seeing as how I worked with trainers to teach me how to do dancing and fighting...it is not far fetched. I literally have done this IRL for movies and TV. Dancer was in FFXI you know, and it worked just fine. I also played dancer in many other MMOs, like Lineage II. Blade Dancer was so much fun.

Also no, again she is neither confirmed to be monk or anything, and here is the source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ida_after_nas/

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No comment on whether the female is a dancer or a monk.

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Or you going to somehow try to discredit him saying that? For all we know she could be a random NPC with no job.

Could you please show me your source where he said she IS monk? I'll wait :)

edit: lol also, someone said the main villain is holding a katana?

"When asked on the weapon Zenos held, Yoshida said that "while the weapons he hold doesn't really relate to his character, but if asked whether he's holding a gunblade then yes he is holding a gunblade." Yoshida told the interviewer to look closely at his artwork later and see if they can notice something from it. "

Its a gunblade.

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well it is rad, i just meant it's not a novel idea that someone made up, since it's actual history.

that's from an interview after fan fest, and apparently he said at fanfest that they are both monks - but whatever, i don't care, i know she's monk :) if she's a dancer, then dancer is basically a monk clone = booooo (unless she's like Thancred, and is multiple class/jobs)

well katana has a blade too, so gunkatana?

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

isn't what do the war already, pure physical 2 hand weapon tank? often people tend to forget this point, that fact that the war is already a 2 hand weapon pure physical tank. exept the weapon and maybe a gimmick in the way to attack it will fit the say role. it's often said and everytime it's ignored.

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Isn't that what DRG does already, pure physical 2 hand weapon dps? often you tend to forget this point (or deny it outright) the fact that DRG already has a 2 handed weapon pure physical DPS. Except the weapon and maybe a gimmick in the way to attack it will fit the same role. It's often said and everytime it's ignored (by you).

Your bunk arguments get annihilated when they get flipped on you which just shows how ridiculous they are.

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the point to add a new jobs it's to offer a new way to play, here the samurai will barely be different than the war....

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But how is it as a DPS any different than the existing ones then? Oh wait, I remember your old ideas "It won't have positionals! SO ORIGINAL AND FRESH". It's so clear your mind cannot fathom actually original ideas so of course you will never think up interesting ideas for any job, regardless of it's role.

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what he can bring to the dps? slow burst dps, job that will strike hard and not really fast, not forced to be based on positional and more based on the of the skill. because soo far i feel the positional recquirement have become a shackle that limite what they can add to as jobs.

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Oh right, there it is. Slow big hits, like DRG! No positionals! Like how Ninja had (yet they changed that right quick). Your ideas are pathetic and I'm glad you have no involvement in this game's development (and hopefully anything else).

The spiderman shirt makes much more sense as a clue for blue mage. Spiderman has probably one of the most famous origin stories of any super hero - he's bitten by a spider and receives spider-like powers.

Sam Raimi is a has-been director of a nearly 20 year old movie series... If it's a clue for Samurai it's a bad one that isn't in keeping with any of his other tshirt hints.

There are a lot of people who want/expect samurai who are suffering from confirmation bias.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

well it is rad, i just meant it's not a novel idea that someone made up, since it's actual history.

that's from an interview after fan fest, and apparently he said at fanfest that they are both monks - but whatever, i don't care, i know she's monk :) if she's a dancer, then dancer is basically a monk clone = booooo (unless she's like Thancred, and is multiple class/jobs)

well katana has a blade too, so gunkatana?

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If we are able to actually use a weapon for the first time that the Garleans made then yeah, that would be possible, but so far we never have been able to wield their weapons >_< and yes I agree..a monk clone would be boring and I don't like playing MNK at all lol. If dancer does ever come to this game, I hope its a fast paced dps with lots of cool dance/slash moves.

I can't wait till 3.5 so we will finally know what the heck she is. I still think shes gonna be a unique thing...like most of the NPC's. I'm not holding my breath for dancer cuz I know I'll be disappointed if it doesn't come in 4.0 ; ;

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the little slide said they used a mix of Black and White magic, yes? My husband pointed out that the BLM quests in HW (I haven't done them yet) involve a rivalry between black mages and white mages. He suspects that the red mage story might pick up from that thread. It makes sense to me.

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That event was the war of magi, which started the 6th umbral era. Nym, Amdapoor and Mhach were at war against each over. At one point the elementals decided that enough is enough and summoned a big flood. After it the magic art became a forbidden art and everyone who used it got hunted down until the 6th astral era began and everyone calmed down.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

there it is again....hybrid job=DOESN'T WORK IN FFXIV (unless you mean that healer has melee ranged heals, and need to melee-heal tanks, which would kill the healer more times than not)

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SCH and WAR are examples of a Healer and Tank who are capable of putting out quite a bit of damage, do you consider them hybrids? If a Healer is already capable of dealing a fair chunk of damage, why must it be magic? why NOT melee?
Also, a melee class that fills a healer role is hardly a new one. Off of the top of my head there's (of course) DNC in FFXI, Disciple of Khaine in Warhammer Online, or Chanter in Aion

Sam Raimi also directed Army of Darkness. Army of Darkness had a guy with a chainsaw hand. We have a major character without an arm in game. Therefore magitech cyborgs.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

BLU as anything but a dps sounds awful.

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BLU could be a tank.

In that reddit thread posted, he very clearly says that it is in regards to Spidermans (Spider Knights story if you want more whacky translating) story itself, not the director. Him talking about the director (because it's not like he has a mobile phone that he can go and lurk through reddit threads and see all this speculation in a moments notice) doesn't really prove anything but show he know how to use the internet to read fan-theories lol. Him emphasizing Spiderman's story itself kinda supports BLU even more. I still think it's not that deep.

Blue Mage would just start at 50 and already know all the monster abilities anyway.

I'm thinking Blue Mage.

Spiderman's costume is blue and red.
Spiderman gets his powers from another creature.
Blue and red is featured in the Stormblood trailer.
The new primal and beast tribe in Stormblood is outfitted in gear that resembles blue mage gear.

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Originally Posted by Felis

That event was the war of magi, which started the 6th umbral era. Nym, Amdapoor and Mhach were at war against each over. At one point the elementals decided that enough is enough and summoned a big flood. After it the magic art became a forbidden art and everyone who used it got hunted down until the 6th astral era began and everyone calmed down.

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No, the conflict I was referring to is part of the level 50-60 BLM quests.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

The new primal and beast tribe in Stormblood is outfitted in gear that resembles blue mage gear.

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Meaningless, and not indicative of anything. I don't know if you know this, but FFXI didn't invent Blue Mage.

http://i.imgur.com/gw3YLCF.png

In addition, since this apparently needs saying... Remember a month ago when people were swearing up and down that Alisaie was in fact supposed to be a "teaser" for Red Mage? And that we'd be summoning energy swords? Remember when Raubahn went ape and killed people in Before the Fall and people were convinced that he would be our DRK job quest teacher from his jail cell / after we bust him out? Or at least that he, somehow, some way, had to be related to DRK because "well they wouldn't have put it in the story if it wasn't supposed to mean something!!"?

Remember how neither of those things panned out or really amounted to anything in the end?

Yoshi P after fanfest be like

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/.../729/large.jpg

I think it's Blue Mage.