Everything to know about 4.0 from the Fan Fest

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

A 4th Residential Area to be added. Where? "Sorry, can't tell ya." This was in the reddit post. Does this mean Ishgard housing that disappeared from 3.4 to be dead?

Next 16 weeks (not 3 months) from 3.4 would probably be 3.5 that puts it right at the start of January. Means June for summer is 20 weeks at the earliest, that is at least 5 months between a content update. Didn't another game get killed for that kind of patch cycle?

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Um, if you're refering to WoD, they had one patch and then a YEAR without content. This doesn't apply to FF14 at all. If 3.2 was the last patch, i'd agree, but this is not the case.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

This Relic thing is sounding like a ftp type of treadmill, ala Neverwinter refining.
Sure, there's this promised pot of gold at the end of the road.
But in actuality the road is littered with roadblocks, stalling mechanics, extended cooldown timers, meaning that it's completely mythical for people who actually have a work/social life outside the game.
I hope I'm reading this wrong with the 72hr zerg fest, slight chance of getting something if you can actually get in to do it, then rinse and repeat groundhog days for weeks and weeks and weeks - sounds fun......

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Window of pop timer, not zerg fest. As in 72 hours between pop window times.

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Originally Posted by Deedsie

Window of pop timer, not zerg fest. As in 72 hours between pop window times.

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Could be okay... but could be the worst thing they could add. Depends if they would make them FATE-like similar to Odin and Behemoth. If they are just single party claims that's a problem and would lead the the monopolization of said NM by a very small select few FCs and promote claim bots further to compete for claims like in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

To test your abilities? You don't have to fight the same class to train. Besides if you pause it looks like she has a blade. You can see the slashing. It similar to the image of does on the please look forward to it!

Just feels dncer to me. But If you want to say its a monk thats your opinion and I respect that. I just don't know why the wouldn't say they are both monks.

Besides it kind of looks like while he is focusing she kind of jumps him. and they go into a playful bout.

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MNK has plenty of blades for weapons.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...2c6c2dfee3.png

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Originally Posted by AstralKaos

I'd like to point out that my annoyance is aimed at the "because Japan don't like them" and not the fact there's not an "ugly" race being added.

And as for the "ugly" being played, I think the most revolting and silly thing gets played quite a lot, and that is male Au Ra, so people will play ugly things mostly from a male characters side. Not that I give a damn about ugly or otherwise races being added, I am eternally staying Miqo'te.

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And personally I applaud them for caring enough about their own vision that they choose not to deviate just to pander to some specific Western demographic; a demographic which willingly subscribed to a franchise notable for it's inherently pretty and cute aesthetic I might add. Because some people want to see it added, it's SE's fault that they don't feel it's appropriate or appealing enough? This is honestly one of those things where I feel the consumers are "not allowed" to complain and just accept the fact that the Developers' visions do match up exactly with your idea of "If they want it, then add it. Definitely add it".

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Originally Posted by Knahli

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I agree 100% with you.

Let me put it in a way to get away from the misconception that I care about them not adding a ugly race - The part where "because Japan don't want it" is THE part that gets me, because as usual it just reminds me of how often we are overlooked in favour of them; which is absolutely fine, that's the audience they can directly communicate with whereas we just have to hope our requests get through at the behest of a forum CM. Seeing something being requested by the western fanbase for months and not even be acknowledged, just to go on the Japanese section and see a request from a Japanese player asking the same exact thing get a dev response with "oh, you'd like that? we never knew - good idea but let's see as many likes as possible to judge" reinforces the notion that we barely have requests or anything passed on... and of how much that does, is ignored?

So, again, seeing that "because Japan doesn't like it" line kind of makes me reflect on that again. Whether it is an actual precise translation of what was said I don't know, but it's included in the OP and such resulted in my reply to that one guy/gal.

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

More inventory will be great. But doesn't it sound like a wet blanket, [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=red][COLOR=black]There is uncertainty in how this will be implemented due to the server needs. Isn't that what we have heard since the end of 2.0 Instead of trying to make more inventory space wouldn't better management of items seem more reasonable. With the PS3 going away shouldn't wardrobe type things everyone keeps telling me how awesome in other games be more reasonable. Also do we need 5 types of blood and all the different types of sand streamlining mats and recipes all the way up to 60 would go a long way.

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As much as I am looking forward to an expanded inventory, all of these are very true. To really solve the problem we need to tackle the issue from both sides.

But yeah, with dropping PS3 support, this is the PERFECT opportunity to revamp systems like the Glamour system into something more on par with other games.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

As much as I am looking forward to an expanded inventory, all of these are very true. To really solve the problem we need to tackle the issue from both sides.

But yeah, with dropping PS3 support, this is the PERFECT opportunity to revamp systems like the Glamour system into something more on par with other games.

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"Even though we are currently not expanding the inventory just yet to test server stability, we are allowing players to rent up to 16 retainers! Enjoy!"

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

"Even though we are currently not expanding the inventory just yet to test server stability, we are allowing players to rent up to 16 retainers! Enjoy!"

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Oh god. Stop giving me nightmares. XDD

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Have you considered not enough NA audiences like "ugly" races either?

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Why does "non-cute" automatically translate to "ugly" to you?

I too would prefer expanded creation options over a new race, though. I just think the excuse SE gave was silly and a bit insulting.

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

I hope the animations and general feel of combat is smoother in Stormblood, because it just feels a bit weak compared to other MMOs at the moment.

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So much this.

I hope they speed things up again, even if it be subtly, and less pauses between melee animations. *attack* *stop* *attack* *stop* *attack* is awkward looking.

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Originally Posted by Dement

He uses Fists of Wind at the end and she uses Fists of Fire like a good MNK.

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Incoming skill overhaul, Fists of Wind gets reworked to increase attack speed, we just didn't get the full length of the trailer where Derplander unleashes his 'Ora Ora ora'. I'M CALLING IT NOW!

I hope those were just 2 monks fighting too, the only thing that felt like DNC to me about her were the clothes. Everything else though, felt 100% MNK. I hope this is how it works out too, since there's plenty of jobs they could be adding that would be way cooler than frekin DNC. Yes, I could be wrong of course but this is just the way I think and hope it'll work out. As far as new races, I agree with other people's stance that instead of a new race, they could expand upon the limited options we currently have.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

- Samurai almost became a playable job
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>almost

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*sobs uncontrollably*

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Oh god. Stop giving me nightmares. XDD



Why does "non-cute" automatically translate to "ugly" to you?

I too would prefer expanded creation options over a new race, though. I just think the excuse SE gave was silly and a bit insulting.

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I'm with you on this tbh. The sub-races within each dont feel different enough other than highlander and midlander which have a lot more distinctive features between them vs others. Different poses, outfit design and so on.

Some predictions:

Raid

One of the raids will be tied to the main storyline this time and will be Ala Mhigo itself. Over the course of the expansion we'll take back the city from the Garleans. Once the Garleans have been fully removed then Ala Mhigo will become a normal player city and the location of the unnamed 4th housing location.

Jobs

I recall an interview in which Yoshi said they didn't want to tackle 3 jobs again due to the amount of work, but maybe that has changed. For now I will expect 2 and hope for 3.

Red Mage

A melee dps with support capabilities similar to BRD and MCH. Will focus on enhancing their weapon and mixing sword strikes and spells. Able to enhance their group's weapons to provide damage or resources, similar to songs and turret modes.

Dancer

Mobile healer that can chain dance steps together in different combinations to heal and buff their party.

Samurai*

Tank that focuses on counter attacks to damage and debuff targets.

*I tried finding info referenced in the OP's list that SAM wasn't coming, but I couldn't find ANY job talk reported on from the FanFest. The closest thing I could was when Yoshi was mentioning they had to choose between DRK and SAM for Heavensward. Maybe I missed some info?

So my guess is Pugilist will get an additional job path to Dancer, explaining why it shares some similarities to Monk. My question is if Samurai will be a dual sword wielding class, as that artwork of the new legatus is clearly showing a sword in the right hand, and a sheathed sword in his left. Parry confirmed?

I'm not getting on the dancer hype train yet. As much as I'd love it to happen, there's one big thing that's sticking out for me:

If they're going to show a dancer in action, why didn't they drop that hint first?

Think about it. Not a word about dancers, even though a lot of people think the girl was the dancer. The giant elephant in the room is curious.

I am totally hopping on the "That was Yda" train though. I don't have a doubt.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n%21-4.0/page6

It's here. Even I only saw it today.

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The thing is it hasn't been confirmed in this thread. The poster said that the information was from the Japanese investors page. I checked and found no mention to this. When asked for his source he said this:

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Originally Posted by Daranion

Apparently the figure is from the JP private page and the quote will be release to the public English page in 5 days time. In a weeks time we'll have an easily souracable link or its proven false

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So at this point I think this budget stuff is all hearsay/conjecture and maybe we shouldn't put much stock in it for now?

Swimming WTF... why would I swim anywhere when I can already fly?
SE please spend you money on better PVE content instead of swimming.

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Originally Posted by Bahd_Monkey

Swimming WTF... why would I swim anywhere when I can already fly?
SE please spend you money on better PVE content instead of swimming.

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Swimming introduces new boss battle mechanics. WoW Tempest Keep Kael'thas fight, "Time to turn your world upside down!" Anti-gravity spell sends the whole raid flying through the air, needing to dodge his spells.
If there is no swimming in FFXIV they would not be able to be more creative in boss battles like this example.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Why does "non-cute" automatically translate to "ugly" to you?

I too would prefer expanded creation options over a new race, though. I just think the excuse SE gave was silly and a bit insulting.

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It doesn't. Hence the quotation. ;)

That said, I'm just not a fan of them. I doubt it's an excuse, especially if you look at Japanese entertainment. A lot of their content focuses on the "cute" aspect of things. I mean, look at Hello Kitty.

Besides the Blue and Red auras of the 2 fighters, idk if anyone else noticed that the woman has hidden blades in her gauntlets that i saw come out and miss the guy twice, and in the artwork u can see one of them sticking up.

So she might very well be a new job, using a mix of martial arts, dancing, and hidden blades (so as some guessed, she very well might be DNC after all)

Also confirmed: The dude in the trailer is attractive af. SE why do you do this? :'(

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Originally Posted by Yellow

Also confirmed: The dude in the trailer is attractive af. SE why do you do this? :'(

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Haha, because everyone loves a bit of eye candy. I wish they put more men in subligars in their promotional artwork/cinematography!

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Originally Posted by Blood-Aki

This almost seemed surprising, but then i remember they have a cash shop, with plenty of whales, Yea, i doubt this hurt in the slightest, but at least with that budget it looks to be much bigger then HW (hopefully)



And rightfully so! cute is where it's at, You never thought of the reason why Miq'ote was not a "full" furry? instead of just the tail and ears? They know what gets the attention.

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Roegydan....

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Originally Posted by Aquaslash

>almost

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*sobs uncontrollably*

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In Heavensward, not Stormblood.

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

Besides the Blue and Red auras of the 2 fighters, idk if anyone else noticed that the woman has hidden blades in her gauntlets that i saw come out and miss the guy twice, and in the artwork u can see one of them sticking up.

So she might very well be a new job, using a mix of martial arts, dancing, and hidden blades (so as some guessed, she very well might be DNC after all)

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Many MNK weapons use blades, as pointed out earlier; the fact that she has hidden blades doesn't mean much, and the moves she is using screams "MONK!" to me.

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Originally Posted by Lmcgyver

Many MNK weapons use blades, as pointed out earlier; the fact that she has hidden blades doesn't mean much, and the moves she is using screams "MONK!" to me.

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Doesn't she even use Shoulder tackle at some point? ( right after she changes her fighting stance )

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Originally Posted by AstralKaos

I agree 100% with you.

Let me put it in a way to get away from the misconception that I care about them not adding a ugly race - The part where "because Japan don't want it" is THE part that gets me, because as usual it just reminds me of how often we are overlooked in favour of them; which is absolutely fine, that's the audience they can directly communicate with whereas we just have to hope our requests get through at the behest of a forum CM. Seeing something being requested by the western fanbase for months and not even be acknowledged, just to go on the Japanese section and see a request from a Japanese player asking the same exact thing get a dev response with "oh, you'd like that? we never knew - good idea but let's see as many likes as possible to judge" reinforces the notion that we barely have requests or anything passed on... and of how much that does, is ignored?

So, again, seeing that "because Japan doesn't like it" line kind of makes me reflect on that again. Whether it is an actual precise translation of what was said I don't know, but it's included in the OP and such resulted in my reply to that one guy/gal.

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Ah, I see. I did note your comment about you not caring about them not adding an "ugly" race, I was actually meant to remove that part from the quote since I was replying directly to the part about the Japanese playerbase liking and wanting certain things. With that said, I actually understand where you are coming from now. I really don't have any first-hand experience or evidence of this myself so it'd be unfair of me just to accept word of mouth despite how popular that notion is but I of course lean toward believing it's a real and recurring issue, perhaps even with this game, so I can sympathise with that frustration ; Sorry for the misunderstanding in any case, I was perceiving it along a different line of thought.

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Originally Posted by Yellow

Also confirmed: The dude in the trailer is attractive af. SE why do you do this? :'(

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I know right?! They made derplander mighty fine. (assuming he is derplander, but you never know...)

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Originally Posted by Lmcgyver

Many MNK weapons use blades, as pointed out earlier; the fact that she has hidden blades doesn't mean much, and the moves she is using screams "MONK!" to me.

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Moreover, an hidden blade as a main weapon would be very weird in a game where gear design and glamour are so proeminent. It would also create a problem with gear design since it would mean that every armor for this job would need big sleeves to "hide" the weapon, meaning you can't use the same armor skins as any other job (unless you take out sleeveless or tight sleeves armors from these jobs too).

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Originally Posted by Tayolynn

I know right?! They made derplander mighty fine. (assuming he is derplander, but you never know...)

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It is derplander... They clearly said during the keynote that he went from DRG to MNK. He always looks a bit different with CG because time does pass in the FFXIV world.

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Originally Posted by Ash_

So my guess is Pugilist will get an additional job path to Dancer, explaining why it shares some similarities to Monk. My question is if Samurai will be a dual sword wielding class, as that artwork of the new legatus is clearly showing a sword in the right hand, and a sheathed sword in his left. Parry confirmed?

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I thought it was common knowledge that they really regretted their decision to have both Summoner and Scholar come from the ARcanist class. They REALLY don't want to do another one class->two jobs thing again. They're trying to get away from classes, that's why HW jobs did not come with base classes!

IF Dancer does branch off pugilist...

I hope I would be able to use the emperor's new hora on it.



Best Monk weapon glamor in my opinion. ;P

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Budget increase should include server / hardware investment as well.

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Yes, a lot of FF XIV profit will go into inventory expansion ^^

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Xbox one release maybe?

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Not so long it is a Microsoft console or until Microsoft change their cross-platform policy.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

I'm still gunning that the girl is indeed a DNCER from the trailer because while shes fighting our derplander mnk after she punched hard but blocks. She jumps back and does a VISIBLE jig before attacking again. So I am still going to say DNCER. Maybe with Puglist -> class to Mnk or DNC. Similar to SCH and SMN

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If you mean that little jumping up and down before her Shoulder Tackle (1:19), i think it was Featherfeed.

What does OP mean by "almost became" for Viera and Samurai?

Haven't been following the news so i'd like to know if it has been confirmed what the new jobs are.

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Originally Posted by Felis

, i think it was Featherfeet.

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True you could be right that it does look like Feather Foot. Just odd they would use a moveset that is being tossed out for being useless.
But your right it does look similar to featherfoot. o/

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

What does OP mean by "almost became" for Viera and Samurai?

Haven't been following the news so i'd like to know if it has been confirmed what the new jobs are.

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Before DRK came out* Yoshi stated they were about to make SAM but decided not to because Yoshi did not find SAM to be a Tank class. Don't remember the Viera talk though. o/

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Here is the interview.
In terms of how fans reacted, it makes me think ‘so if we were to put in a Samurai, how is it going to play into the realm of Final Fantasy XIV? Would it be a tank? But that doesn’t seem to make sense because Samurai seems to be more of a DPS. Or if we were to go in the vein of a tank, wouldn’t it be a Shogun?’ those kind of thoughts start brewing in my head
http://www.cgmagonline.com/2015/03/1...-with-yoshi-p/

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I thought it was common knowledge that they really regretted their decision to have both Summoner and Scholar come from the ARcanist class. They REALLY don't want to do another one class->two jobs thing again. They're trying to get away from classes, that's why HW jobs did not come with base classes!

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It's also common knowledge that the dev team re-assesses their stances and makes changes that contradict what they once have said or done. Heck your point here is an example of that.

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Originally Posted by Remus

It is derplander... They clearly said during the keynote that he went from DRG to MNK. He always looks a bit different with CG because time does pass in the FFXIV world.

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Alright then.... thanks for the update where I didn't see the keynote at the time.

For clarification on something the OP mentioned, It was between flying, swimming, or underground. (Before 2.0 it was between jumping, flying, swimming or climbing, with hints of swimming being the prefered option to take, but he didnt think climbing or swiming would be good additions to the game, and even thinks jumping wasnt that great, but would probably be good to add, to mimic WoW.)

While flying won, yoshida then said swimming or underground MIGHT be whats next. With strong hints he'd prefer to make underground probably because its way easier.
Later he also added the moon as a possible location we go to in the expansion, making the choices swim, underground, or moon, which he then was hinting more towards the moon. (this was announced back in 3.0)