My only problem with jumping is that 99% of jumps will be done out of boredom.

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11-10-2011, 05:08 AM
Griss

I do wonder, are people so petty that some one hitting a button in a idle manner would actually bug them so much that it would cause a reaction other then hey look at that goofus?

If that's the case why are they not currently raging at people who like to run circles around other players when waiting? Or is this simply a poorly masked case of that's different, i don't like different things? If that really is the case, that excuse didn't fly with my parents when i wouldn't eat my veggies as a kid.

If some one wants to bounce around like there riding a super charged pogo stick then more power to them
11-10-2011, 05:33 AM
Tetsaru

FF14 doesn't have any real platforming elements to it, so I don't really see the need for a jumping ability... unless SE plans on adding said elements when they start overhauling the maps. That, or somehow implement it in a way that allows chocobos and other mounts to get to certain areas that would otherwise be inaccessible.

The only other thing I could think of would be if jumping would allow you to dodge Ifrit's Eruption/Radiant Plume attacks, but it'd really be difficult to time, especially with the current server lag in terms of syncing character placement and animation lock issues...
11-10-2011, 05:34 AM
Engineer

I want SE to add Backflips and front rolls so then players can stand in circles having backflip contests. It would be awesome to see lala's doing double frontflips and their emotes at the same time. Awesome thing too, if we can charge magic for no reason and jump doing backflips just to see the cool effects. :)

lol i think people should let people have fun. leave them alone :)
11-10-2011, 05:39 AM
Griss

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Originally Posted by Tetsaru

FF14 doesn't have any real platforming elements to it, so I don't really see the need for a jumping ability... unless SE plans on adding said elements when they start overhauling the maps.

From my understanding that's exactly what there going to be doing.
11-10-2011, 05:51 AM
Anonymoose

As far as I know it's not an ability meant for anything at all. In interviews, Yoshida-san said that jumping would be a purely aesthetic function meant to alleviate the feeling that people were literally tied to the ground. Now, at this point in time, 2.0 was being developed, but it hadn't been announced. I don't see why this status would have changed, but it may have. It may be that the new engine supports the recognition of things moving along the Z-Layers, but who knows if we'll be able to jump from one place to another.

I'm all for the feature just because I really do feel tied to the floor.

<troll>
Being tied to the floor ruins my immersion. Jump is the only thing that can save it.
</troll>
11-10-2011, 05:54 AM
RemVye

List of things they need to add following jump:

Pogo sticks
Back flips
Front flips
Barrel Rolls
Jumping on mounts
Double-jump
Wall jumps
11-10-2011, 06:54 AM
Deceptistar

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Originally Posted by KenJammin

My only problem with jumping is that 99% of jumps will be done out of boredom.

isnt the whole reason to play this game out of boredom? >.>
11-10-2011, 06:58 AM
Engineer

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Originally Posted by RemVye

List of things they need to add following jump:

Pogo sticks
Back flips
Front flips
Barrel Rolls
Jumping on mounts
Double-jump
Wall jumps

yes! OMG imagine a dragoon with a pogo stick! EPIC!

oh and jump on people to get higher.
11-10-2011, 09:41 AM
Ilean

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Originally Posted by Deceptistar

isnt the whole reason to play this game out of boredom? >.>

Actually, the kind of people that opposes jump, etc. play this game out of no-life.
11-10-2011, 02:53 PM
Anonymoose

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Originally Posted by Ilean

Actually, the kind of people that opposes jump, etc. play this game out of no-life.

Living vicariously through the proxy of an attractive avatar that garners artificial acclaim through the illusion of actual activity counts as having a life! Numbers on a friend page denote actual popularity! Linkshell homepage hits count as celebrity status! RIGHT!? FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THAT IS HARDCORE TELL ME I'M RIGHT!
11-10-2011, 03:02 PM
Anapingofness

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Originally Posted by RemVye

List of things they need to add following jump:

Pogo sticks
Back flips
Front flips
Barrel Rolls
Jumping on mounts
Double-jump
Wall jumps

A Barrel Roll you say...?
That may just be too awesome for the likes of FFXIV!
That's crazeh talk lady!

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... o O; Sorry.. but I mean, I do hope you're just being facetious...
11-10-2011, 11:10 PM
RemVye

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Originally Posted by Anapingofness

A Barrel Roll you say...?
That may just be too awesome for the likes of FFXIV!
That's crazeh talk lady!

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... o O; Sorry.. but I mean, I do hope you're just being facetious...

100% serious actually.... well the pogo sticks was a little joke, but the rest of it was serious.
11-10-2011, 11:58 PM
Nakiamiie

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Originally Posted by RemVye

100% serious actually.... well the pogo sticks was a little joke, but the rest of it was serious.

Flips, wall jumps, double jumps and mount jumps would be awesome indeed!
But barrel roll? How do you barrel roll jump (sorry, I keep seeing an arwing)? With your flying mount?
11-11-2011, 12:02 AM
RemVye

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

Flips, wall jumps, double jumps and mount jumps would be awesome indeed!
But barrel roll? How do you barrel roll jump (sorry, I keep seeing an arwing)? With your flying mount?

If there's a will, there's a way! I'd tap ZZ or RR probably.
11-11-2011, 12:14 AM
Nakiamiie

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Originally Posted by RemVye

If there's a will, there's a way! I'd tap ZZ or RR probably.

Hahahaha!
Yes, maybe having a jump where you roll on your side in the air to evade an attack. More like an automated animation when evading occurs... in mid air.
11-11-2011, 12:21 AM
Onidemon

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

This is exactly what it's going to be, since Yoshida did mention the word "Emote" in conjunction with Jump. So unless that changes, it is just an animation to make people not feel tied down to the world.

That was before 2.0 and the new engine was announced. If you've seen the video from the last letter, it is clearly not an emote. unless you can run "emote /jump" to be able to jump forward which sounds ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-TMlzgZ528
11-11-2011, 12:29 AM
DNO

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

That was before 2.0 and the new engine was announced. If you've seen the video from the last letter, it is clearly not an emote. unless you can run "emote /jump" to be able to jump forward which sounds ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-TMlzgZ528

ooo man thats the first time i saw jump and wow that looks so cool. I can not wait for it.
11-11-2011, 12:49 AM
Onidemon

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Originally Posted by DNO

ooo man thats the first time i saw jump and wow that looks so cool. I can not wait for it.

Yup and that's just pre-alpha animations, it will be a lot better in the final version.
11-11-2011, 01:19 AM
Sheth

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Yeah, exactly. They are just going to stop development on jump and the new zones with jump in mind all for a loud mouthed minority with a barbaric MMO agenda. That is totally in their best interest.

Haven't you stopped to think that with 2.0 they don't want to shoot for a niche market of players like yourselves? That's what FFXI was and SE was comfortable with that. They were comfortable with making another MMO for the same group of people til it failed. Maybe they want to be bigger and not lock out a market that is starving for the next best MMO. It's actually a really good time for them to redevelop the game and release 2.0. Leaving out these MMO standards would be a terrible representation of a next gen MMO. Something they are going for.

Sorry. Your niche MMO is dead and is slowly being developed into a more mainstream market in mind. Get over it.

some would say you obviously haven't played 11, others would say you did and you just don't get either 11 or 14....they have nothing in common except the name even now with the new team. I would say you have no clue what you are talking about. 14 failed because they tried to make it more open to casual players. Every Yoshida article states that they need to put more content for hardcore players.
11-11-2011, 01:45 AM
Nakiamiie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onidemon

That was before 2.0 and the new engine was announced. If you've seen the video from the last letter, it is clearly not an emote. unless you can run "emote /jump" to be able to jump forward which sounds ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-TMlzgZ528

Wow! It's really awesome! :D
I don't feel the jump is too high for a Final Fantasy title either. :D
Can't wait to see the final product.
11-11-2011, 02:38 AM
Onidemon

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Originally Posted by Sheth

some would say you obviously haven't played 11, others would say you did and you just don't get either 11 or 14....they have nothing in common except the name even now with the new team. I would say you have no clue what you are talking about. 14 failed because they tried to make it more open to casual players. Every Yoshida article states that they need to put more content for hardcore players.

FFXIV failed because they tried to make it open to casual players?! LOL some may say you played FFXI too much and some may say you don't know what you are talking about.
11-13-2011, 04:32 AM
kensredemption

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Originally Posted by smokymcweed

i got a realy amazing idea guys n gals how about maybe just posably hypotheticaly every time SE does something diferent we dont call it a WoW clone OMFG awsome idea nough said f@#king crybabies

I got a better idea: How about the devs slap you silly with every trolling post you conjure up to further pollute these forums? Not very constructive, I know, but it'll save me from suffering your incessant nagging.
11-14-2011, 07:54 AM
Bowen

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Originally Posted by smokymcweed

i got a realy amazing idea guys n gals how about maybe just posably hypotheticaly every time SE does something diferent we dont call it a WoW clone OMFG awsome idea nough said f@#king crybabies

When I look at your post I think of two things:
1.) You really need to take an English class.

2.) I agree, just because SE wants to add something new to the game doesn't mean that they are copying WoW.
11-14-2011, 08:35 AM
Rhianu

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Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse

We don't need jump, get it in your thick skulls SE.

You can implement jumping if it is NEEDED for example:

1. To solve platform puzzles.
2. To get onto higher ground to do more damage as archer.
3. To access hidden areas.
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As long as this is not the case THERE IS NO NEED FOR JUMPING!

4. To navigate the terrain more efficiently and not constantly get caught on knee-high ledges all the damn time.

And complaining about jump-spammers is ridiculous. It has never bothered me in the slightest to see people randomly jumping for no reason in other games. Why should it bother me? It doesn't hurt me at all if someone does it. It's not something anyone should be complaining about.
11-14-2011, 08:56 AM
AmyRae

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Originally Posted by Sheth

14 failed because they tried to make it more open to casual players. Every Yoshida article states that they need to put more content for hardcore players.

Then this may come as a shocker:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Online games have a hierarchy to them, or at least that’s what I like to call it. It’s often described using a pyramid, the width of the pyramid being representative of the number of players. At the peak are the hard-cores—the minority of players who completely immerse themselves in the game, playing day and night and often forgetting their biological imperatives. As you work your way down the pyramid, players become increasingly casual. It bears mentioning that this model illustrates the quantity of players only, not quality.

In the first generation of MMORPGs, the pyramids were skinny and tall. In the current generation, while I think the peak should still stay way up there, the slopes projecting down from it should be less extreme. What I want to make is a theme park where both casuals and hard-cores can exist and play together. That’s the minimum requirement I think a modern MMORPG should fulfill.

Letter from the Producer, XX

If you need some time to cry alone in the shower, we'll understand.
11-14-2011, 09:15 AM
PrettyPrincess

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Originally Posted by AmyRae

Then this may come as a shocker:

Letter from the Producer, XX

If you need some time to cry alone in the shower, we'll understand.

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