Please add STR to Fending accessories

I hate to say it, but the fair solution to OPs problem is to not allow multiple primary stats on crafted accessories. Adding strength to top ilvl tank accessories would just make them overpowered, as they are currently balanced. Crafted accessories have always been OP for tanks, and assuming SE's philosophy on crafting is that it be weaker than raid gear, they should not be.

You should not be able to trade VIT for STR at a 1:4 ratio, or whatever crafting allows currently.

The whole putting 2 primary stats on an item only benefits tanks and no other class, maybe they do need to look into this.

The benefits of crafted items should be to pick your secondary stats. Not double-dip on primary stats.

This needs addressed. All gear should have Vitality+Class Damage Statistic.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

The benefits of crafted items should be to pick your secondary stats. Not double-dip on primary stats.

This needs addressed. All gear should have Vitality+Class Damage Statistic.

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Why exactly does this matter? Nothing is stopping any other job from doing the same thing. The only difference is the fact that other jobs aren't supposed to be getting hit repeatedly so the VIT wouldn't be as effective as it is for tanks. There's nothing stopping a caster from stacking Piety and other stats into crafted accessories.

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

Why exactly does this matter? Nothing is stopping any other job from doing the same thing. The only difference is the fact that other jobs aren't supposed to be getting hit repeatedly so the VIT wouldn't be as effective as it is for tanks. There's nothing stopping a caster from stacking Piety and other stats into crafted accessories.

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Vitality helps all classes, I used to wear "tank" gear on my scholar to survive some aoes so I could make fights easier.

The issue is. Vitality does not increase "Threat and Enmity" where Strength does.

Sounds good to me. I find the argument presented that all classes have a feeling of great benefit from their increased ilvl gear but tanks, and while accurate also sounds wrong (should be adjusted).

+1'd a number of posts.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Vitality helps all classes, I used to wear "tank" gear on my scholar to survive some aoes so I could make fights easier.

The issue is. Vitality does not increase "Threat and Enmity" where Strength does.

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Maybe I misunderstood your last post. If that's the case then my apologies.

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

Maybe I misunderstood your last post. If that's the case then my apologies.

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I apologize as well if I was rude. I am simply saying Vitality helps everyone. That extra 300 health as a healer let me survive some aoes.

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Originally Posted by Destomius

I'll take a tank that stays alive and does damage over a tank that stays alive and doesn't do damage anyday. It's hilarious how people seriously place no value in how much damage a tank does.

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Maybe because we have bad histories of tanks rocking full STR accessories that crumple over dead when they try to speedrun stuff because MOAR MOBS means MOAR DEEPS.

What they should do is release crafted 180 accessories and increase the level 5 material spirit bond rate

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

Tanks are there to tank. I don't see the need for strength other than to power your way through content quickly which isn't really necessary if you have good DPS.

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It's like saying that having 20k HP for Twintania is good when the content was cleared with around 7k HP. Nothing seems wrong to you?

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Originally Posted by Melch

It's like saying that having 20k HP for Twintania is good when the content was cleared with around 7k HP. Nothing seems wrong to you?

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Then use strength accessories.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

Then use strength accessories. Simple. It's one or the other, it's purposely implemented that way.

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Um, no?

I will use my over-melded i150 accessories that give me 850 str while still maintaining 810 vitality and wreck shop all over everything? Yeah, I opt not to choose when I can have both, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Kirana

I hate to say it, but the fair solution to OPs problem is to not allow multiple primary stats on crafted accessories. Adding strength to top ilvl tank accessories would just make them overpowered, as they are currently balanced. Crafted accessories have always been OP for tanks, and assuming SE's philosophy on crafting is that it be weaker than raid gear, they should not be.

You should not be able to trade VIT for STR at a 1:4 ratio, or whatever crafting allows currently.

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Crafted tank accessories aren't overpowered, they're the way tank accessories should be.

As it stands, tanks are the only class that doesn't get any stronger with new accessories. Healers get extra MND, which gives them extra attack power in cleric stance. If all the tanks had access to a special DPS stance that swapped STR & VIT that would be one thing, but I don't think that's coming any time soon.

If they legitimately want tanks to stop using str then they either have to make things hit much harder or make the tank accessories more useful, even though overgearing content will always remove the need for the extra buffers so i don't see this happening.

instead of 100% vit, give us 60% str/60% vit.

All problems solved:)

can't they just give tank attack skills VIT modifiers? remove str from tank armor slots and add Parry as a persistent base stat to tank armors. then have 2 damage oriented secondary stats.

Crafted gear is not supposed to be the best gear. This has been said by Yoshida before. You can disagree with that design, but please properly voice your feedback in a way that makes sense instead of whining to someone that's bringing up a legitimate concern. I do sympathize with the lack of use of crafted gear, but I don't know what to do about that. That's a separate subject.

The OP is right. That, or they should class-lock accessories. Either one, or both, has been necessary since the beginning of the game, and it makes no sense that they've never done it.

I also like the idea of no primary stats on accessories. In fact, the more I think about it, I realize that's the most ideal solution, and I actually now can't believe THAT hasn't happened yet.

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Originally Posted by Teiren

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If they class lock accessories then they need to change how abilities work. Caster DPS abilities benefit from increased INT, MNK/DRG benefit from STR and NIN/BRD/MCH from DEX. What does VIT give tanks? Nothing but an inflated HP pool and weaker self heals and skill damage.