this is getting Ridiculous

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Originally Posted by ispano

So much that they make up rules and reasoning that go against what the system was meant to be and then try to enforce those as law.

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Rules? When did I talk about rules? I specifically said nobody should be FORCED to wait. I simply said I think people SHOULD do it and I personally consider it rude to pull a mob for you and only you when you could call, allow another party or two to come in, and have all three of you get full credit. Why is waiting a few minutes and letting a few other people get credit too a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

Rules? When did I talk about rules? I specifically said nobody should be FORCED to wait. I simply said I think people SHOULD do it and I personally consider it rude to pull a mob for you and only you when you could call, allow another party or two to come in, and have all three of you get full credit. Why is waiting a few minutes and letting a few other people get credit too a bad thing?

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Have you ignored the thread? Many people DO do those things. Even if you don't, don't be oblivious to those who are.

You said it was common courtesy to wait for others. It stops being common courtesy when you could potentially lose your share because of it. It stops being common courtesy when the zerg that arrives doesn't return said "courtesy".

Oh, by all means I don't agree with the behavior the OP was talking about either. But a lot of the discussion seems to have shifted over to hunts in general.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

Oh, by all means I don't agree with the behavior the OP was talking about either. But a lot of the discussion seems to have shifted over to hunts in general.

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Your opinion is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Verranicus

Your opinion is wrong.

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I'm all ears. Please, tell me how my opinion that people waiting a bit and letting a dozen or so people get credit is better than people snatching up anything they can get and only 5 or so get the credit, is wrong.

Honestly, they should make Hunts require a pop item and said pop item can only be acquired from those 'potion' chests in dungeons. Might seem like a 'bad' idea to a lot (there's probably a better idea involving pop items), but hey, unless SE introduce Burning Circles that require us to hand over 99 Kindred Seals for a Themis Orb so we can fight Chlevnik so we can get a Beastly Shank to pop Behemoth, it's better than having people bite each others heads off or resetting mobs just to appease the many and screw over the few.

Warning, might run out of breath if reading aloud.

Just to add, the popped Marks will be treated similarly to Treasure Hunt mobs. As in, only you and your party can attack them as well as get hit by its AoE's. What I imply is that the Elite Marks can have the same level of difficulty as dungeon/raid bosses and the innocent bystanders won't have to worry about getting one shotted.

Tanks who go steal in progress hunt to reset it, is harassing the group that were hunting and must be banned for good.
After a good number of bans I'd like to see if all that zergs will again play their dirty game. They are not right, they are bullying the few with their numbers. And they don't care about you: if you do a favor to them, they repay you with a kick in your face. They deserve plain nothing.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

Oh, by all means I don't agree with the behavior the OP was talking about either. But a lot of the discussion seems to have shifted over to hunts in general.

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this is how these ls grps work this is what they do, just wondering how is what i did rude and selfish but what they did is not just wondering, and if i assumed something i apologize befrehand but im just curious. because you sound very contradictory no offence

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I'm all ears. Please, tell me how my opinion that people waiting a bit and letting a dozen or so people get credit is better than people snatching up anything they can get and only 5 or so get the credit, is wrong.

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actually what i have been talking about and have expained is all about hunts not just the situation i experienced, what you are saying it is courtesy to wait but just to let you know, courtesy, consideration, kindness, generosity are all double standard words no matter what you do and how you do it, it will be hurtfull/disadvantuous to the other party, i did wait i did call out but to be honest if its an a or be rank its gunna be dead in less then 13 sec if not that. me and my group found it me and my group were hunting around and looking for spawns, so are we not the ones who should have it above all else. now if i was a real dick i would of never called it out, but i did and got screwed out of 20 seals and only got 2 for my courtesy for my kindness. so no those words are useless in your opinions and in mine becuase they are double standards they will only fit ppls need for thier views only. im not courteous cause i pulled as soon as they arrived (Your point of view) they are not courteous becuase they kill stealed my grps hunt causing us to lose out whn it only had 10% of its life taken, and they could of just easily joined in instead of reseting it for their own needs (my point of view) you see how these words are doule standards

these people are not doing this niceness for the common good of everyone cause if they did they would wait at least 10 minutes before they pull giving everyone enough time or go to each major city and let ppl kno so and so has spawned come get your seals, no they show up and automatically pull without a second thought be it stealing it or finding it freshly spawned, like the ppl u say keep it for themselves that goes both ways you could say in peoples eyes we are both wrong and both right at the same time in the many views and opinions from this thread and the many like it. no matter if you feel we are being rude your only looking at one side but have yet to contemplate the what if on the other side of the fence. tell me would you risk the 30min-hr you spent looking for a hunt find it, be tell people then wait for them to show up and have it stolen not getting the 20 seals you should of and only to 2 seals just so 60+ other people could mooch off of the time you spent and not give a dam about you and your group. im tired of getting spat in the face so from now on im not going to shout or let peple know, im done! too many a time ive had it thrown in my face for being nice and then belittled that im selfish that im not courteous because i pulled as soon as the train shows up, i found it, i wasted my time looking for it and tell me what do i got to show for it cept a swift kick in the balls because i had to be nice and courteous. Double standard my friend Double standard.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I'm all ears. Please, tell me how my opinion that people waiting a bit and letting a dozen or so people get credit is better than people snatching up anything they can get and only 5 or so get the credit, is wrong.

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Because it's never just a dozen or so random people that show up. It's the giant coordinated horde who are following spreadsheets of shared information about every single mob The Hunt provides, and then recording time of death so they know exactly when to circle back around to farm the same mobs again. If you don't fall into line and let the horde get their full credit, guess what? You're blacklisted..over 5 seals.

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Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee

Because it's never just a dozen or so random people that show up. It's the giant coordinated horde who are following spreadsheets of shared information about every single mob The Hunt provides, and then recording time of death so they know exactly when to circle back around to farm the same mobs again. If you don't fall into line and let the horde get their full credit, guess what? You're blacklisted..over 5 seals.

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I think I'm failing to express myself here... I don't agree any more than you do with this sort of behavior. When I talk about someone waiting a few minutes, I mean something like

> find mob -> call your party over -> put up a shout to people in the zone who're also searching -> wait 3-5 minutes or until ~20 people have shown up (allows for 2-3 parties) -> pull mob -> do your thing, get your credit -> (optionally) if someone's shouting omw still consider slowing down dps to let them try for credit too

I don't at all agree with someone trying to rip enmity off of you and demand they get first crack at the credit. I've even suggested in other threads a "finder's mark" that when applied gives your party a minor seal bonus and ensures that you and only you can make the actual pull.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I think I'm failing to express myself here... I don't agree any more than you do with this sort of behavior. When I talk about someone waiting a few minutes, I mean something like

> find mob -> call your party over -> put up a shout to people in the zone who're also searching -> wait 3-5 minutes or until ~20 people have shown up (allows for 2-3 parties) -> pull mob -> do your thing, get your credit -> (optionally) if someone's shouting omw still consider slowing down dps to let them try for credit too

I don't at all agree with someone trying to rip enmity off of you and demand they get first crack at the credit. I've even suggested in other threads a "finder's mark" that when applied gives your party a minor seal bonus and ensures that you and only you can make the actual pull.

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no matter what happens they will still reset it to fit thier needs there is no other way to explan it. I do like your finders mark idea and would agree whole heartedly on it but still all in all they will just reset it and screw other people and if the finders mark is determined on who tagged it first we are still at square one

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I think I'm failing to express myself here... I don't agree any more than you do with this sort of behavior. When I talk about someone waiting a few minutes, I mean something like

> find mob -> call your party over -> put up a shout to people in the zone who're also searching -> wait 3-5 minutes or until ~20 people have shown up (allows for 2-3 parties) -> pull mob -> do your thing, get your credit -> (optionally) if someone's shouting omw still consider slowing down dps to let them try for credit too

I don't at all agree with someone trying to rip enmity off of you and demand they get first crack at the credit. I've even suggested in other threads a "finder's mark" that when applied gives your party a minor seal bonus and ensures that you and only you can make the actual pull.

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The problem is 3-5 minutes is way more than enough time for that zerg to show up. And if the mob is a B rank, it's easily soloable as it is.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I think I'm failing to express myself here... I don't agree any more than you do with this sort of behavior. When I talk about someone waiting a few minutes, I mean something like

> find mob -> call your party over -> put up a shout to people in the zone who're also searching -> wait 3-5 minutes or until ~20 people have shown up (allows for 2-3 parties) -> pull mob -> do your thing, get your credit -> (optionally) if someone's shouting omw still consider slowing down dps to let them try for credit too

I don't at all agree with someone trying to rip enmity off of you and demand they get first crack at the credit. I've even suggested in other threads a "finder's mark" that when applied gives your party a minor seal bonus and ensures that you and only you can make the actual pull.

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I tried that the first time I found Naul. I did the supposed right thing, shouted for an invite, got into a full party. The horde appeared, no one pulled early. My party apparently didn't throw enough enmity around because I didn't get weekly credit. 2 weeks later and I've not seen Naul since. I'll be solo'ing it if there's ever a next time. Just to reiterate, shouting will never attract ~20 people.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Tanks who go steal in progress hunt to reset it, is harassing the group that were hunting and must be banned for good.
After a good number of bans I'd like to see if all that zergs will again play their dirty game. They are not right, they are bullying the few with their numbers. And they don't care about you: if you do a favor to them, they repay you with a kick in your face. They deserve plain nothing.

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Yea except SE isn't going to go down this road, because every time you ban a tank for an existing mechanic you designed, you also drop your profit line by a monthly sub.

Your looking at this from a players standpoint who wants justice, the CEO of SE has to look at it from a red and black ink perspective, however they approach this reset issue you can bet it wont be mass tank bans.

People seem to consistently forget that video game companies make games to make "profit", not to set new morale standards for gamers.

Option A, change leash mechanics on hunt mobs so tanks cant reset - little or no loss in subfee bottom line profits.

Option B, ban every tank who leashes a reset - a little to substantial subfee bottom line profit loss.

If there is one thing iv'e learned over 40 years of working, it's that money truly talks and BS truly walks, which option do you think they'll do.?

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I think I'm failing to express myself here... I don't agree any more than you do with this sort of behavior. When I talk about someone waiting a few minutes, I mean something like

> find mob -> call your party over -> put up a shout to people in the zone who're also searching -> wait 3-5 minutes or until ~20 people have shown up (allows for 2-3 parties) -> pull mob -> do your thing, get your credit -> (optionally) if someone's shouting omw still consider slowing down dps to let them try for credit too

I don't at all agree with someone trying to rip enmity off of you and demand they get first crack at the credit. I've even suggested in other threads a "finder's mark" that when applied gives your party a minor seal bonus and ensures that you and only you can make the actual pull.

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then you actually agree with OP, unlike you told a few posts ago

I think the person who finds the mark (and their group if they have one) should always get full credit. They did the work to look for it, they got lucky and were the first ones to find it, they deserve it. No one else deserves full credit. They may be lucky enough to get there in time, and that's great, but they weren't the ones to find it and thus aren't entitled to it.

To get full credit, the person / group who's found the mob have to be the ones to make the pull, especially if they're not a full party. This means they will have to pull as soon as they find the mark / their group gets there, before the group of 200 people arrives and claims it as theirs (even though they weren't the first ones there).

Resetting mobs is claim stealing and reward stealing, it's intentional griefing and should always be reported.

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Originally Posted by xenosuke1

no matter what happens they will still reset it to fit thier needs there is no other way to explan it. I do like your finders mark idea and would agree whole heartedly on it but still all in all they will just reset it and screw other people and if the finders mark is determined on who tagged it first we are still at square one

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Square has weighed in and said malicious resets are a bannable offense. And honestly I still don't totally buy it, I've seen a LOT of people calling for resets and... I've yet to ever actually see it successfully happen.
And when I talked about the finders' mark, I envisioned it as basically an extra General tab action, with the following effects:
1) The mob cannot aggro any player that is not in the finder's party, for a period of X minutes or unless no member is within Y yalms of the mob, until the finder's party makes the pull. (This is needed to avoid abuse, otherwise some troll would mark the mob then wander off and do nothing for an extended period of time so nobody could touch it.)
2) If the finder's party participates, they receive a set seal reward over and above their contribution reward. (Might also be advisable to make the party automatically get full credit, but at the same time I could see this being abused too; consider a party putting up a finder's mark, then using one shield lob to pull, each member making a single auto-attack, then the whole group wanders off somewhere else and gets full credit plus bonus for the kill when it was other players who did the killing.)
3) An alert is sent out to only that zone reporting the monster's name and position. There shouldn't be a problem with this since none of the incoming players can touch the mob anyway; the finder's party has full rights to decide how long to wait before pulling the mob.

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Originally Posted by Taika

No one else deserves full credit. They may be lucky enough to get there in time, and that's great, but they weren't the ones to find it and thus aren't entitled to it.

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I'm not trying to talk about deserving or entitled. I just think it's a nice thing to do to let other parties in the area who're searching as hard as you for a hunt mark to join in and get a shot at the rewards too, and a bit mean-spirited to actively try and deny that chance.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I'm not trying to talk about deserving or entitled. I just think it's a nice thing to do to let other parties in the area who're searching as hard as you for a hunt mark to join in and get a shot at the rewards too, and a bit mean-spirited to actively try and deny that chance.

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I do agree, in theory. However, after seeing how often announcing the marks in shout leads to both another group pulling or resetting it (which often leads to the original founding party not receiving full reward) and horrible abuse in /shout chat, it really isn't something I'd recommend for anyone to do in this situation. Unfortunately, being nice and trying to share these marks just leads to a person not getting rewarded but being verbally abused and blacklisted instead.

Indeed. Twice now I've found an A-rank monster because it spawned near me whilst I was out and about doing other things (gathering, Atma book), shouted and got a grand total of 1 allied seal because enormous zerg mobs turned up and no-one would group with me because they're all already grouped with their zerg mob (even though it's highly likely given the numbers - not a perfect multiple of 8 - that at least one of the groups had a space.) Basically I was penalised for doing the "right thing".

I'd like to see spawn timers become more randomised, to prevent predictable farming by big zergs, and contributions being individual, not group-based, so people can pop in and enjoy a hunt if one happens near them rather than being locked out by farm groups.

what they should do is instead of hunts spawning in multiple places have it spawn in one place mayb thtll fix alil o these probs idk mayb

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Originally Posted by Lamentations

Yea except SE isn't going to go down this road, because every time you ban a tank for an existing mechanic you designed, you also drop your profit line by a monthly sub.

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Existing mechanics can be misused for griefing and personal advantage, that is reason exists a GM service, or else we don't even need it. Your reasoning to not ban people because they pay the subs, implies no one paying the sub can be banned, with consequence anyone paying the sub is free to do whatever he please in game. Hope you now understand how that reasoning is flawed.

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Originally Posted by xenosuke1

what they should do is instead of hunts spawning in multiple places have it spawn in one place mayb thtll fix alil o these probs idk mayb

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I vote for Revanent's Toll.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I agree that nobody should be forced to wait to pull a mob. I simply consider it common courtesy, and those who are not willing to extend it to be rude and selfish. Pulling a mob when it's just you and maybe your group when there are several people shouting that they are on the way and desperately trying to assemble a party while running across the map is simply saying "no, it's MY mark and only MY party will get the credit for it because it's all MINE."

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lol, it IS their mark and their party is entitled to kill it. Expecting others that share and complaining when they choose not to, and yes it is a choice, is simply entitlement minded garbage.

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Originally Posted by xenosuke1

well there is that too, but they could just take out the logs and myth

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No, please no. I've said this on another similar thread: This would mean that those who pushed others aside in order to get the most rewards from hunts benefit from their behavior; nice guys who waited and decided not to fight back lose out. I would prefer that everyone who does something in a fight gets credit. This would help those on ps3s too, since they can't target what they can't see.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

Then you clearly weren't putting in enough effort.

A lot of people in this thread need to learn this phrase.
When it's common practise on a server to do things a certain way, you should go along with that and if you choose not to, then don't cry about the repercussions because you ignored it.

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That has got to be the most ignorant thing I've ever read. On maximum posts per page, 2 pages in, AFTER people have been saying "LS groups are what's enforcing this toxicity" and AFTER the (obviously more "Liked" and logical) argument "If I found it, I should get credit" your argument REALLY became "well its your own fault for not getting enough damage in. Go be like everyone else."
Please quit the game, you're an embarrassment to us all.

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Originally Posted by 3Jane

lol, it IS their mark and their party is entitled to kill it. Expecting others that share and complaining when they choose not to, and yes it is a choice, is simply entitlement minded garbage.

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So it's their choice when to pull the mark, but it's not my choice to object to their behavior even if I find it selfish?

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

So it's their choice when to pull the mark, but it's not my choice to object to their behavior even if I find it selfish?

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But that's what you don't understand. People say that a full group, no matter how many people are there, can get full credit every time. And this is wrong. You have to do enough to get credit, and the more people that are there, the less chance any given person or group will get full credit. Many in fact only get partial. So it's selfish of them, according to you, to want to get their full credit because they found it instead of calling half the server which could easily mean they don't get full credit. Yes, half the server. Shouting to the zone will not prevent that.

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

So it's their choice when to pull the mark, but it's not my choice to object to their behavior even if I find it selfish?

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Get there faster.

Seriously, I've been against Hunt LS' from the start. They're creating idiotic rules and regulations which don't work. They try to help everyone, when their reality is they are helping no one. You see a Hunt, you claim it, you kill it. It's that simple. It doesn't make you a good person if you shout it or tell a big linkshell. Pull as soon as you see it. Let your LS know if you need help. Otherwise, just go for it. God forbid there is some actual competition in this game.

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

It seems as though you two are not on Excalibur server. Yeah, this can happen. I've seen it happen with a group of 4 Whm spamming medica and 4 War not get full credit. Our server is really populated.



No, most people get partial credit. I've been in a few times and full credit isn't even most of the time. And I mean in a full group, yes they still don't get credit.

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Hmm, not sure you understand how hunt credit works. First off, anybody in a party with 4 Whm and 4 War doing hunts is retarded. You need real DPS and doing hunts without at least a few dps jobs in your party is going to get you nowhere. Getting credit for a hunt depends on how much dps your (FULL) party can add to the mob before it dies.

The only time's I have not received full credit from a hunt monster is when either the mob was pulled before I (and the majority of the party) reached it and so we end up having less time to do as much dps as possible since the mob might be already half dead when we arrived to start fighting it, or I wasn't in a full party (4-5 players). It's really easy to get full credit, but the majority of your party need to be at the mob before it's pulled so that you can add as much dps against the mob as possible.

Even if you happen to be the farthest away from the mob in your party, let's say you teleported late or something, but the rest of your party is there when it's pulled and has been dpsing it. As long as you arrive with enough time to land a hit, you will get full credit due to your party's overall dps, even though you personally were barely able to do anything before it died.

That's how it works.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Hmm, not sure you understand how hunt credit works. First off, anybody in a party with 4 Whm and 4 War doing hunts is retarded. You need real DPS and doing hunts without at least a few dps jobs in your party is going to get you nowhere. Getting credit for a hunt depends on how much dps your (FULL) party can add to the mob before it dies.

The only time's I have not received full credit from a hunt monster is when either the mob was pulled before I (and the majority of the party) reached it and so we end up having less time to do as much dps as possible since the mob might be already half dead when we arrived to start fighting it, or I wasn't in a full party (4-5 players). It's really easy to get full credit, but the majority of your party need to be at the mob before it's pulled so that you can add as much dps against the mob as possible.

Even if you happen to be the farthest away from the mob in your party, let's say you teleported late or something, but the rest of your party is there when it's pulled and has been dpsing it. As long as you arrive with enough time to land a hit, you will get full credit due to your party's overall dps, even though you personally were barely able to do anything before it died.

That's how it works.

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Except iirc, they changed it to work based on enmity, to help all those helpful healers get some form of credit instead of having to DPS the whole fight.

Hmmm just now, still needing the weekly, sure enough some one found it shouted. I shouted that I still needed weekly but guess what? Damn things dead before I get to it. Thank you very much you jerk off mark hunters. On another note I did find Naul by himself right outside Dragonhead. Apparently all the ppl running down the road did not notice him.

Hell with it, he's mine and anyone else shows up they can have their shots too. Anyone else shows up and tries to reset, you get a GM call. I ended up just tanking it 2nd half of its life so the 2 others that noticed Naul could get their hits. That's what you get when you don't even allow someone to get their weekly. F U right back at ya.

Keep in mind, after you down a monster it may take around 30 seconds to receive credit for it. That's how it is for me and a few friends after we downed a few S rank mobs so don't teleport out until you receive credit first (until it shows up on your chat log).

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

> find mob -> call your party over -> put up a shout to people in the zone who're also searching -> wait 3-5 minutes or until ~20 people have shown up (allows for 2-3 parties) -> pull mob -> do your thing, get your credit -> (optionally) if someone's shouting omw still consider slowing down dps to let them try for credit too

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On my server it used to be:
find mob -> join up with 3-4 players who found it at the same time -> shout location -> Hunt LS member in zone repeats to Hunt LS -> 100+ members from Hunt LS teleport in to nearest Aetheryte -> all Hunt LS members wait very politely until everyone in the LS has arrived (usually within one minute) -> mob is engaged -> mob dies ~10 secs later -> you get one seal

But really, now it goes:
find mob -> join up with 3-4 players who found it at the same time -> don't tell anyone -> take 1 min killing mob as others join in as they pass -> Hunt LS member spots and notifies Hunt LS -> 100+ members from Hunt LS teleport in to nearest Aetheryte (usually within one minute) -> mob is dead before they arrive -> you get 10 seals -> /sh channel is filled with abuse

Although, really, 90% of them go:
Hunt LS member finds mob -> notifies Hunt LS and doesn't at all /sh -> 100+ members from Hunt LS teleport in to nearest Aetheryte -> all Hunt LS members wait very politely until everyone in the LS has arrived (usually within one minute) -> mob is engaged -> random soloer sees the horde and shouts location -> mob dies ~10 secs later -> you turn up after hearing the late shout to see a hundred people teleporting out

So yeah, I now ignore Hunt shouts and the DoomTrain.

Lol @ all these entitled players. Stop trying so hard to convert other players to abide by your rules that was only designed in your LS/FC. No one need to be courteous at all. They find it, they have all rights to kill it without any hesitation. The way you want to progress in the game has nothing to do with other players. Your money, your subscription, your play time.

I belong to a hunt LS and I do my reports pretty often. If I don't get there in time, OH WELL WOOPIE DO! Life goes on. No need to flame and bash on other players because they pulled early or whatsoever unless they belong to the same LS/FC. Flaming/bashing/harassing only show how low of a player or a person you are.

If a player reset and its causing you to get partial to no credit, then for god sake, report them. It is a form of harassment and it's against the ToS. Remember you're paying for your own god damn subscription, not them.

The train, or horde is how a majority do hunts on Excalibur. I don't see it stopping anytime soon unless they change how hunts work. Hopefully, there will be a middle ground for small groups and a zerg in the near future so they can all benefit from this content.

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Originally Posted by Dwill

Do you actually have any ideas though why there is a lockout in the first place or do you just hate it because you can't rush everything like the hunt ?

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So they can halt our progresses.

Too bad it makes content feel like a job and makes you unable to play with your friends. Didn't you guys learn anything from Coil lockout?

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Originally Posted by Taruranto

So they can halt our progresses.

Too bad it makes content feel like a job and makes you unable to play with your friends. Didn't you guys learn anything from Coil lockout?

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A job? Work != Job. Plenty of enjoyable things involve work. That doesn't make them a job, or make them even feel like it. If you think it feels like a job now, I doubt you would like how it feels if it wasn't locked and was adjusted for that fact.

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Originally Posted by ispano

A job? Work != Job. Plenty of enjoyable things involve work. That doesn't make them a job, or make them even feel like it. If you think it feels like a job now, I doubt you would like how it feels if it wasn't locked and was adjusted for that fact.

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If it wasn't locked, I would be able to do it when I want and how much I want. There is not "OMG, I need to log to do roulette today!"

Jeez, is it so fun for you guys to now have nothing to do during the week cause you already did that content? Is it so fun to not be able to play with your friends cause you already did that instance? Is it so fun having 6 PF Coil groups looking for members and not be able to join any of them because you already cleared coil on the first day?

Hey Yoshi, I have an idea, why not put under lockout the ability to login into the game too? This way people won't be able to Hunt all day! BRILLIANT!

This is a very entertaining thread to read while on break at work.

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Originally Posted by Taruranto

If it wasn't locked, I would be able to do it when I want and how much I want. There is not "OMG, I need to log to do roulette today!"

Jeez, is it so fun for you guys to now have nothing to do during the week cause you already did that content? Is it so fun to not be able to play with your friends cause you already did that instance? Is it so fun having 6 PF Coil groups looking for members and not be able to join any of them because you already cleared coil on the first day?

Hey Yoshi, I have an idea, why not put under lockout the ability to login into the game too? This way people won't be able to Hunt all day! BRILLIANT!

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It's fun for me because I don't have to grind it many times in a single week just to get something to drop. It's fun for me because I can go on and do other things during the week. People don't truly understand what would have to happen to unlock the content while it's still current.