You would be wrong seeing as how I live in Birmingham and there are protests, parades, meetings, etc here all of the time...especially on campus, which is fine, but my statement still standsQuote:
Originally Posted by Eekiki
Wedding service in FFXIV
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07-16-2011, 02:23 AMDubont
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07-16-2011, 02:28 AMEekikiThose people aren't offended. They just want attention.Quote:
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Either that or Michigan winters keep the LGBT community in Ann Arbor relatively docile. ^_^ -
07-16-2011, 02:29 AMReikaI have 2 gay friends, neither of them act offended by everything . . . Some people are just more easily offended than others, gay or not. like how all these straight people are offended by the idea of homosexuality. . . JUST THE IDEA of it. Quite ridiculous.Quote:
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And even without marriage, there are plenty of homosexual wordings that go on in game, both NPC and Player. -
07-16-2011, 02:33 AMDubontI have 7, 3 of which I hang out with on a daily basis. 2 are female, 1 is a male. When I'm around the male, I really have to watch what I say or else he gets really really mad, started screaming, crying, and hitting me with random objects...For example: I was playing 14...we wiped to the buffalo (had a few first timers..didn't know about his hate reset) and I was on vent..so I just said "gaaaaaaaaaaaaay" Omg at the crap storm that followed. I've had similar cases with the other 2 guys of the same sexuality. Maybe it is just the community here in Alabama...idk, but most seem really easy to offend....Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:34 AMMalakhimI can assure you that if you've been ostracized and ridiculed your whole life, and maybe even beaten a few times and in general not being accepted into a lot of things, you might have a "fuck you" attitude as well. Not trying to make excuses for anyone, and this may not be the case for more resilient individuals who may have better support structures than others, but try to put yourself into their shoes hypothetically for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubont
And in a game that is supposed to be about uniting with others, a "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy for the more hardheaded, in addition to not adding marriage in the first place to avoid the inevitable backlash from all sides would probably be the best course of action unfortunately. -
07-16-2011, 02:35 AMEekikiI believe you're confusing being offended because of your comments with being a whiny emo college kid. His sexuality has nothing to do with it.Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:37 AMDubontyes, most definitely lolalabama...but hey, it has a good medical school (which is why I'm here). It may just be that he is a crybaby...but like I've said, the same happened with the other 2...oh and the cashier at CVS....Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:39 AMEekikiOdd, because I'm having a hard time finding a more offensive insult than calling someone a CVS cashier.Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:41 AMXeak
Ugh I can't believe this conversation is still going on. People just need to accept that we live in a new age and no matter what there are going to be people who don't follow what is "socially correct." And they shouldn't be whipped for it either, especially if they're American. The point of the US is freedom to live the way we wish to live. And if SE is going to put out a game that will be played worldwide, then they need content that doesn't discriminate against people based on race, sexuality, and other stuff like that.
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07-16-2011, 02:44 AMEekikiRemember that episode of Pee-Wee's playhouse, where he married a fruit salad?Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:51 AMXeakWhatever, I still stand by what I said.Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:52 AMSeif
I don't know how anybody can be such a whiny crybaby about knowing that 2 women or men got married on the same server? I think that attitude takes the prize for being the most childish emo troll ever. How does that in any shape or form offend your straight sensibilities (<--lol)?
You do know there are gay players on your server right this very moment?
Most of the servers have their own active gay linkshells too.
You know you live in a world where a certain percentage of the population has always been gay. If that really causes you to have these irrational feelings of anxiety then consider SE doing you a favor if they add marriage to the game for everybody. Obviously it would do you a lot of good to get used to living in the real world. I wonder how you even manage to consume any culture as most of the notable artists and philosophers were gay. Do you honestly want to go through the rest of your life with a blindfold on your face?
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07-16-2011, 02:52 AMquantumsaintIt's not that they're easily offended, it's that most of them (in my experience) don't like when you use their sexual preference as a synonym for something undesirable.Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:54 AMMorticous
this topic is too confrontational, this is an adventure game anyway not a soap opera, leave this trash out completely. Married in game? Stuuuuuuuuuppppiiiiiiiidddddd. If you want to get married in a game please go play second life because this.... is adventure life :p
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07-16-2011, 02:55 AMEekikiExactly, it's like me trying to shoot something with a bow and arrow, missing, and exclaiming, "Man, that arrow was so straight!".Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:56 AMXeakI can't tell if you're being serious or not ...Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:58 AMEekikiWhen have I ever been serious? ^_^Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:59 AMTotobiBut... the word gay originally meant happy. Should all the happy people of the world be offended when a homosexual uses the word gay for their sexual preference? (Not aiming this at you in particular)Quote:
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07-16-2011, 02:59 AMXeakLol well I don't know you very well so I just had to make sure :PQuote:
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07-16-2011, 03:02 AMMorticousI agree,Quote:
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I mean, fag means cigarette, should all cigarettes be offended when gay people call each other fags? -
07-16-2011, 03:03 AMDubontseeing as how "gay," "homo," "fag," "faggot," and "queer" have a different meaning that was around LONG before the LGBT community made it into something different...I don't see where the offense is.Quote:
Originally Posted by quantumsaint
Gay=happy
Homo=same
Fag=cigarette
faggot=bundle of sticks
queer=strange
I don't see the problem, in general.
As I said before, since it is too risky for SE, the best option would be to not have it at all, OR called it something other than "wedding" or "marriage." (both of which were intended as "Holy" matrimony). This is close to the same thing as saying that "God" (meaning the Christian god) should be in the game instead of the twelve. How many people would that offend? -
07-16-2011, 03:03 AMXeakI don't think gay people call themselves fags ... at least none I've ever known ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
And the same goes for queer too. In England it means strange or ill.
Edit ... got beaten too it lol
Edit2 ... I agree that marriage should be called something else. I don't want God to be in the game. He's done nothing but ruin my life in the real world, and I strongly believe in the Twelve :D -
07-16-2011, 03:07 AMMorticousI simply thinking leaving it out all together is the answer, its such a dumb thing to get married in game anyway, whats the big deal just leaving it out?Quote:
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@ xeak - I've seen them call each other that. I was confused myself, neither of them looked like a cigarette at all!!!! -
07-16-2011, 03:07 AMquantumsaint
It's the negative association you're creating with it that they most likely have a problem with. It reinforces homophobia, even when used unintentionally. Just use "lame" or something similar instead.
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07-16-2011, 03:07 AMReika
I know who I'm marrying if they ever add marriage :D
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07-16-2011, 03:08 AMquantumsaint
And there WILL be a wedding service. Make no mistake about it.
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07-16-2011, 03:09 AMEekikiOoh I hope it's meeee~Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:11 AMXeak
Wish I had someone to marry :( I'm so lonely ...
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07-16-2011, 03:12 AMDubontbut...lame would offend the crippled...seeing as how "lame" originally meant disabled to the extent that movement, especially walking, is impaired.......so what...we go from insulted the LGBT community to insulting crippled kids in wheel chairs? That's even worse!Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:12 AMMorticousyou would say something like that.Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:14 AMMorticousI said stupid earlier and now I'm afraid i offended a stupid kid :/. Maybe bogus is a safe word?Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:16 AMquantumsaintYou're really just grasping at straws now, aren't you?Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:16 AMEekikiThat offends Bill and Ted.Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:17 AMReikaWell, it is a cute lalafell girl ^^Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:18 AMDubontbogus means not genuine...so...maybe it is safe >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
Nobody? Talk about grasping at straws...I'm pretty sure that my "lame" horse is offended by that and I'm offended that you called my horse a "nobody."Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:19 AMMorticouscan I say, "this is so My little pony"?Quote:
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07-16-2011, 03:20 AMEekikiOh you're such a tease. You're toying with my emotions! ^_^Quote:
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07-16-2011, 04:21 AMNuinnDude, bad analogy is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubont
XIV wouldn't be the first game to include same-sex marriages and none of the MMOs that have ever had an after effect (wth?) as dramatic as you make it sound. There hasn't been pitchforks and torches happening in those games, people didn't mass leave in disgust....
It's a simple matter of human rights and nothing else. It's equality for all that's the matter. The ones getting disgusted should learn to accept it much like they've learnt to let go of racial segregation, religious persecutions or accept and obey the disability rights laws.
On this particular topic is: We all get a chance to marry whomever we want or none of us get marriages. By not wanting to accept people being different, and opting for the no marriage at all option, is what, giving up a possibility that I could also marry a girl I like in game? Just cause someone has an issue with something which should be granted to you at your birth.
XIV marriages aren't even that important, but people want this option cause it's fun, for them. Like Chocobos, or housing or having a barber shop is fun for others. And just like those other things, they want to be able to enjoy it, if it gets implemented into the game, but not by being forced to marry the opposite-sex if only those couples are supported. -
07-16-2011, 04:25 AMQuatre
If you guys really want to get started on the whole "This is just a word" point, you may as well go around calling each other nigg**s,
Secondly, Dubont i'm not exactly sure how you are under the impression the "GLBT community TOOK those words and changed their meaning" It's similarly how black people didn't come up with the N word. They were created to BE derogatory.
Thirdly. You refer to Homosexuals as "Them" "They call themselves fags! They made the word! They're asking for it!" This amount of ignorance and elitism is unacceptable. WE are people, whatever a persons orientation is does NOT make them separate from you in ANY way. Perhaps your friend got mad at you because you say you are his friend yet disrespect him and think of him on a whole level below you. I'm surprised you didn't start calling him an It, I guess you haven't hit rock bottom yet.
Funny enough, I totally agree with you. Screw Marriage in the game. It's a useless messed up tool created by corrupt societies anyway.... -
07-16-2011, 04:33 AMNuinno_oQuote:
Originally Posted by Quatre
/pats on back 'It'll be all right'
P.S. I want my tux so shush :p