8.0 rework will be a joke

It would be cool to see if each job has a tank, healer, DPS spec. I’d love to tank as a NIN again like in FFXI. And “tanking” as a RDM/NIN was fun, too with evasion tanking the summon Avatars.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

While my faith in Square Enix in regard to job design is greatly diminished, personally I am waiting for 7.2. This is where the new style of combat instances is supposed to come, and those could offer us a glimpse of what Square Enix has planned. Fight design and class design are inherently building atop each other, after all.

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I think the new encounter design is already here (last dungeon + last alliance raid/chaotic raid), I dont think M5s-M8s will be that much different but we'll see

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

I think the new encounter design is already here (last dungeon + last alliance raid/chaotic raid), I dont think M5s-M8s will be that much different but we'll see

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Wait, was it supposed to be different?

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

I think the new encounter design is already here (last dungeon + last alliance raid/chaotic raid), I dont think M5s-M8s will be that much different but we'll see

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Can't say I see that currently, if I am honest. Though some of the current encounters do seem to take a less safe and established road, and some mechanics we have encountered may be a test bed for mechanics of the future. We shall see in a couple of months.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Wait, was it supposed to be different?

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I think so yeah, from my understanding they want to implement more "react & adjust" mechanics instead of the usual "know the dance" mechanics

But I guess we'll have to wait for harder content (7.3 ultimate, 7.2 & 7.4 savage tier) to see how far they can go

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Wait, was it supposed to be different?

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Yoshida talked about harder/more reactive encounters coming in DT, then around release said the first iteration wouldn't actually be out until 7.2.

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I think that if the pvp team that is way smaller can do it in one expansion, so can the pve team, and even if the task is far more daunting, so is their team's size.
But where my expectations actually lie are close to zero, or even the negatives. I'm actually scared they'd go for a full double down on everything that I've hated with their changes over the years, because every time we are unhappy with something, they choose instead to nuke the good stuff and continue down the path of the bad.

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Sadly for the PVP part, to me it feels like the PVE job team took over in 7.1 and made the skills more like in PVE. A lot of jobs suddenly got "use X ability, then you can use Y ability" as we're also seeing in 7.0 PVE.
Jobs like DRK got a combo chain behind it and a followup on LB, or RDM.
Overall also feels a lot more burst-focused than before.

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Yoshida talked about harder/more reactive encounters coming in DT, then around release said the first iteration wouldn't actually be out until 7.2.

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Yeah guys keep subs going 7.2 will be lit

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Originally Posted by BabyYoda

Yeah guys keep subs going 7.2 will be lit

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I'm just repeating what he said. "X.Y will fix it, except for these things we had to delay until X.Z and A.B" has been going on since Stormblood at least.

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I'm just repeating what he said. "X.Y will fix it, except for these things we had to delay until X.Z and A.B" has been going on since Stormblood at least.

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Yoshi P ignore job changes for 2.5 year * DT released* also Yoshi P tell people to wait another 2.5 years

It is funny how Yoshi P keep people on their toes when he didn't even give a s**t about the players feedback