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Originally Posted by FireMage

And that's what fflogs are also for. Have to check every base. It's very easy to spot a buyer when you have all the info

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I get what you mean, but what I'm suggesting is a protective measure against harassment and stalking. I don't disagree with you but parsing is against the ToS. Just do try outs man.

and just fyi I would love for a dps meter to be built into the game

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Originally Posted by Gemina

It's 100% more convenient to not have to do it in the first place. That's the point. And if a good person can make themselves a shadow to avoid a troublesome individual(s), the same benefit is granted to a toxic person who wants to evade the trouble they've caused. Zoom out and put more thought into what you're proposing or supporting.

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I don't think you seem to understand what is being suggested.

1. If someone is being harassed, they cannot control it. Another, separate individual is committing the harassment. "Just don't get harassed" isn't a viable solution, and victim blaming is not a flattering look.
2. An individual cannot evade moderation by hiding their profile, or changing their privacy setting. While you or I may not be able to track them, SE definitely can. That is the whole point. SE should be dealing with these things, not lay players. We're trying to avoid vigilante justice here.

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Originally Posted by Senn

I get what you mean, but what I'm suggesting is a protective measure against harassment and stalking. I don't disagree with you but parsing is against the ToS. Just do try outs man.

and just fyi I would love for a dps meter to be built into the game

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Try outs are only for those that pass all the prior checkmarks. And who cares? The TOS is garbage. Not every rule is worth respecting or following

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

The fact you can literally stalk a person even after multiple renames due to the lodestone link being the exact same is already a huge issue by itself, either make it optional private, or make it change when people transfer and/or rename

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This is the real problem. Whoever designed the Lodestone obviously did not take privacy into consideration. It's a horrible oversight, one that system engineers should have known to look out for since the 90s at the very least.

For those who are unaware, your lodestone character page URL contains your character's unique identifying string. Someone who writes that string down will be able to track that character through name changes, server transfers, everything. Until you delete that character. It has been a problem for people who were stalked since years ago. The only way to get your stalker off you is to delete your character and start over.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Try outs are only for those that pass all the prior checkmarks. And who cares? The TOS is garbage. Not every rule is worth respecting or following

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I agree but keep it on the down low
I don't like people sneaking into groups past their prog point or hardly contributing, I get it I get it
But this and that are different

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Originally Posted by Senn

I agree but keep it on the down low
I don't like people sneaking into groups past their prog point or hardly contributing, I get it I get it
But this and that are different

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Except what you're advocating for goes against transparency, especially when it's very easy to shut down in game harassment

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I don't think you seem to understand what is being suggested.

1. If someone is being harassed, they cannot control it. Another, separate individual is committing the harassment. "Just don't get harassed" isn't a viable solution, and victim blaming is not a flattering look.
2. An individual cannot evade moderation by hiding their profile, or changing their privacy setting. While you or I may not be able to track them, SE definitely can. That is the whole point. SE should be dealing with these things, not lay players. We're trying to avoid vigilante justice here.

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Exactly.
I'm 100% on board with people being able to protect themselves from harassment. If someone is harassing someone else, SE can track them without problems the moment they got reported, no amount of name changes, server changes etc. will change that, the account that was used to harass someone can and will get tracked.
You can't protect yourself against harassment by "just don't get harrassed lol" or "just don't surround yourself with crazy people" - that's not how it works. You don't just get harassed because you're doing uwu emoting while half naked in Limsa and flirting with sweaty people that want to bone a cat girl. You can get harassed for all kinds of reasons and it's often enough something you played absolutely no part in because if someone wants to be an asshole, they don't need you to give them a reason or permission first. They'll do it.

And it's quite frankly ridiculous that the blacklist feature is as bad as it is, that someone can teleport to you after a divorce, that it took them 4 expansions to look at the fact that deleting people from your friendlist won't remove you from theirs and that a payed name change doesn't do anything because you can still easily be tracked.
Players should be able to protect themselves from people they don't want to interact with but that keep trying to interact with them.
Reporting will enable SE to track the perpetrator without problems, regardless of name and server changes. They can't hide unless they're using a throwaway account but in that case, opt-out option will change even less in favour of the perpetrators.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I don't think you seem to understand what is being suggested.

1. If someone is being harassed, they cannot control it. Another, separate individual is committing the harassment. "Just don't get harassed" isn't a viable solution, and victim blaming is not a flattering look.
2. An individual cannot evade moderation by hiding their profile, or changing their privacy setting. While you or I may not be able to track them, SE definitely can. That is the whole point. SE should be dealing with these things, not lay players. We're trying to avoid vigilante justice here.

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It's basically impossible to get the blacklist function to even work and when it does work it only blacklists that specific alt yet when you report anything the first thing you see is "Have you considered blacklisting this person?"

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Except what you're advocating for goes against transparency, especially when it's very easy to shut down in game harassment

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It's not easy to shut down in game harassment though. People just make alts to harass you.
Look, I get where you're coming from, but I think harassment and stalking is the bigger issue as opposed to transparency in regards to static recruits. If they underperform, just kick them. How does the lodestone relate to fflogs anyway? Does fflogs read some kinda data from the lodestone that I don't know about

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Originally Posted by Havenchild

IDC how it sounds. If you gain unfair advantages in the game and you are publicly shamed for it, I don't believe you should be able to escape that.

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Because they cheated? It's a game dude lmao. I understand a lot of XIV players are always out for blood for the tiniest stuff
but that is up to the GM's. This reminds me of the billboard thing where people went out of their way
and harassed the living hell out of the players like it had anything to do with them. Ya'll weird.