The coming balance changes to jobs

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

perhaps if certain roles haven't been happy for quite a while

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And what are you basing this on exactly? A handful of loud people on a forum?

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Omnomnomnom 1111111111111111111 is truly the pinnacle of class design, those craaaaaaaaazy healer complaints come from nowhere.

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Blame Gordias Savage for this. It was the hardest raid in the game, the one where healer DPS became mandatory. If not for that, people wouldn't be raging about healer DPS, and healers wouldn't have gotten nerfed due to people wanting to make it "easier" to perform well at.

Nuke spam on healers is pretty boring in any content, honestly. I hope they'll do something about it, all I wish is that we had more than one button to press during downtime. AST at least have cards to play with around, even if i don't like the current ones, they're still something extra to do. I picked up WHM for Asphodelos, and while I do enjoy the healing spells and abilities, this kind of glare spam gameplay is very underwhelming. I think it was better before.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Blame Gordias Savage for this. It was the hardest raid in the game, the one where healer DPS became mandatory. If not for that, people wouldn't be raging about healer DPS, and healers wouldn't have gotten nerfed due to people wanting to make it "easier" to perform well at.

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Or blame the people who have the power to actually change the way the role works but choose to leave it alone and hand wave all the issues they have. The fact they literally aren’t even mentioned combined with the own forced slide during the pre expansion slide show is pretty telling.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

And what are you basing this on exactly? A handful of loud people on a forum?

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And what are you basing yourself on? a bunch of people with 70% uptime free curing and whining the 90 msq dungeon is a step too much into the extreme difficulty?

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Originally Posted by Navnav

Take away tricks and increase NIN damage by 40%.

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Originally Posted by Navnav

This can't be for real lol.

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Originally Posted by Aiscence

And what are you basing yourself on? a bunch of people with 70% uptime free curing and whining the 90 msq dungeon is a step too much into the extreme difficulty?

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So you're just pulling anecdotes out of your ass now. Nice.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

Black Mage and Samurai need more fire power because of how busy they are. Meanwhile;

https://i.imgur.com/uQO3eOp.png

I don't know where and how Black Mage is any busy. I don't know if this is a mistranslation issue but saying they will buff selfish DPS so reaper and monk don't out DPS them is fairer. Also rip MCH since they are also selfish. I guess mobility is a good and valid reason to have them do no damage.

I get told that my Summoner should do less damage than Red Mage because of mobility tax since they're like a ranged physical.

Where did Summoners ever asked to have more mobility than what they had in ShB? Anyways, I hope they rethink about SMN because it is too restrictive of a rotation to be enjoyable to optimize right now.

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BLM is the busiest and most fun it's ever been in a long time. You can tell it is Yoshi-P's star child by how well polished it is. Comparing CPM is a less than usual statistic considering MCH has the 2nd highest CPM and it is rather simple in comparison.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

So you're just pulling anecdotes out of your ass now. Nice.

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No, he was being just as anecdotal and dismissive as you were in your post.

Just because you don't believe there is something wrong with the healing role, doesn't mean there isn't anything wrong with it and lots of people have major issues with it. Not many of us are happy with 1111111111111111111111 gameplay and mp issues. I've also noticed a precipitous drop in healer participation in DF and PF since the expac started.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

Black Mage and Samurai need more fire power because of how busy they are. Meanwhile;

https://i.imgur.com/uQO3eOp.png

I don't know where and how Black Mage is any busy. I don't know if this is a mistranslation issue but saying they will buff selfish DPS so reaper and monk don't out DPS them is fairer. Also rip MCH since they are also selfish. I guess mobility is a good and valid reason to have them do no damage.

I get told that my Summoner should do less damage than Red Mage because of mobility tax since they're like a ranged physical.

Where did Summoners ever asked to have more mobility than what they had in ShB? Anyways, I hope they rethink about SMN because it is too restrictive of a rotation to be enjoyable to optimize right now.

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Yoshi said that it's MNK that needs buffs for how busy it is. SAM and BLM need buffs because they are selfish DPS.