Black Mage - the solution for everything?

Community or rather i'd say pickup groups doesn't want melee in most contents because most melees are known to be pretty damn stupid. They do not have any idea how to keep themselves alive, expect heals/esuna without bringing their own meds, wear full AF, alot of melee main DPSer are just infamous.

I seriously have no doubt, people that are whining are actually terrible players because like what Ruri Temari said, he played melee class few times, showed people how good he is, and he have no issue. If you are not terrible, people will not mind whichever class/jobs you goes.

If these melee are so stupid, why is it okay to take them on blm? its the same player, they're just as stupid.... I think stupid players should be made to learn, but BLM is so easy that even stupid people can do it just fine? That's what I'm taking from that post, and I'm not okay with that. lol

If a player isn't doing well for melee, usually they arent great with blm also. That is true. But it just seems easier to get by as a bad mage than a bad melee atm.

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Originally Posted by Peptaru

If these melee are so stupid, why is it okay to take them on blm? its the same player, they're just as stupid.... I think stupid players should be made to learn, but BLM is so easy that even stupid people can do it just fine? That's what I'm taking from that post, and I'm not okay with that. lol

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Because BLM is the easiest job to play since archer. It is entirely gear dependent, without decent gear a BLM is average dmg and should be out damaged by any decent melee even a WAR DD, but any moron should be able to figure out how to use the lightning combo.

Also I got a good laugh out of Chardrizard claiming that melee need melds and medicine to "avoid infamy" and be useful over a black mage... no, they just need to know how to play their job and make full use of the majority of their abilities (unlike BLM who when doing straight damage will use actually very few of their abilities).

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Originally Posted by Delsus

SE want to make chalanging content, and if you do Garuda, Ifrit, Moogle, CC, AV on balanced jobs then they are challaging, the community just wants to find out how to switch on Easy Mode on all content and once its found that stratagy is there to stay unless SE nerfs that stratagy, then all the Easy Mode worshipers cry when they can't do the content.

I just can't wait to see how many people BLM burned Garuda down, by everyone with Garuda weapons coming out of the instance dead over and over again.

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You can't tell a community that has a tendacy to obsess over maximizing their efficiency and lowering the difficulty of combat to bring a balanced pt because it's more "fun." People want to win they don't want to die, so they will bring the most efficient group whether it means a balanced pt or a stacked pt. Current content favors stacked pt's so guess what happens..

It's on SE to encourage us to bring balanced pt's whether we get bosses that will change their weaknesses and invulnerabilities throughout the fight or giving balanced groups a buff for including different jobs in their pt's. Clever game mechanics could also work like needing a certain job to access a portal or even giving each job a small aura ability buff that doesn't stack.

Otherwise, why should one make content more challenging then it has to be?

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Originally Posted by Peptaru

If these melee are so stupid, why is it okay to take them on blm? its the same player, they're just as stupid.... I think stupid players should be made to learn, but BLM is so easy that even stupid people can do it just fine? That's what I'm taking from that post, and I'm not okay with that. lol

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well what do you expect when yoshi's idea of a fun combo is fire<fire<fire or lightning<lightning<lightning.

it's easier for a bad mele player to not take as much damage on a blm because the class has been taken to easy mode by yoshi's changes and any idiot can figure out how to use the same spell over and over again without worrying about positioning and directions for their combo's. if anyone is to blame for the blm's being stacked like they are now look no farther than the group that made the class changes.

As I said before, I'm not okay with it. I know why and how it happens, but I took/take issue with the fact that people are totally okay with it. Don't be okay with it! Make the stupid people learn!

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

well what do you expect when yoshi's idea of a fun combo is fire<fire<fire or lightning<lightning<lightning.

it's easier for a bad mele player to not take as much damage on a blm because the class has been taken to easy mode by yoshi's changes and any idiot can figure out how to use the same spell over and over again without worrying about positioning and directions for their combo's. if anyone is to blame for the blm's being stacked like they are now look no farther than the group that made the class changes.

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Yeah it was soooo much harder using shadowsear. lol

I'd say be patient odds are the battle system is still being worked on, so the reason why BLM looks so good is because it's only based on the combo system. However once we do get a skillchain system which will most likely only involve melee skills, odds are a combination of classes will be shown as more effective rather then throwing the same class at it.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

Also I got a good laugh out of Chardrizard claiming that melee need melds and medicine to "avoid infamy" and be useful over a black mage... no, they just need to know how to play their job and make full use of the majority of their abilities (unlike BLM who when doing straight damage will use actually very few of their abilities).

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It's not about being better geared, it is about attitude. People that are well prepared are usually better players, the one that strive for the group wins. The one that doesn't rely on anyone, the one that knows how to pop elixir when in times of needs.

If they are main "insert class", it is easier to judge when they know how gear themselves up. We're talking about pickup parties here, everyone have their doubts.