State of the Game: Savage+ Dungeons and End Game Leves

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

"Complete Sohm Al (HM) in under x amount of time."
"Complete <insert dungeon> without abilities"
"Complete <insert dungeon> without a tank."
"Complete <insert dungeon> while under permanent mini."

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This is reminding me of the effects you get in the roulette system in the battle square of the FF7 Gold Saucer.... O-o How about they have those dungeons that do have those little slots before you go in each time, with each time also having the possibility of being a different dungeon as well? Entered by talking to an NPC in a battle square in the gold saucer, gives the Gold saucer more stuff to do :D

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Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline

You chastise him for making assumptions, yet in the same post you make several that you have NO WAY of knowing unless you work at SE/Blizz.

Always the hypocrite.

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If you have nothing constructive to say, don't butt in. It doesn't take a genius to read WoW's patch notes, or watch any of the videos critical of pretty much everything WoW or FFXIV does, and the criticism Blizzard gets is "overly reliant on PTR" where the criticism SE gets is "treats PC as a second class citizen".

We don't get things in FFXIV "because PS4", that is not Yoshi-P saying that, that is the user base saying that, because Yoshi-P said that in response to why we don't get addons.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

Oh come off it. Of course I don't work for SE, but neither do you. But I do know about game development (soz, I'm a 3D modelling and rigging girl - which is why I know the mount stuff would be intern level work :rolleyes:) to know that what is being asked is 100% within the realm of possibility for a AAA company. I am sick and tired of people making excuses for why we cannot have incredibly easy to implement content (because it is ALL reused assets. not a single thing would be new besides where the code is). If their netcode and infrastructure sucks so bad as to not be able to add more titles, maybe they should take a step back and fix it? If they don't have the man power to do something as easy as this, then maybe they should reallocate (do we REALLY need more perform stuff?) or get a larger budget? It is frankly starting to border on unacceptable.

And yes. I would rather they revisit old content and make QoL changes than make new "content" that dies with a day or is widely disliked. Perform? Eureka? Astrologos? Lords of Verminion? Squadron? The only new content that was worth anyone's time and garnered positive reviews was Ultimate and they've already said no more of that.

Anyways... I think it would be a good way to bridge the difficulty gap between normal mode stuff and extremes. Not every challenge mode has to be ballbreakingly difficult, and the system doesn't have to include every dungeon in the game. Just take three dungeons at first and release them with a few challenges each.

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Right, so how many extra bytes have to be transferred over the wire for every proposed change? What underlying server infrastructure keeps track of titles and achievements? You know those achievement points can be redeemed for things right? It's not a "just do this thing, it looks easy." Pay attention to how much loading time there is between zone changes, 95% of that time is just inventory and inventory-like data. If you have more stuff in your inventory it takes longer to load. New character with nothing? Pretty much instant loads. Why do you think the search was changed? Yes this search is slightly better, but it was really a way to stop sending needless inventory updates between zone changes.

Adding titles, really is not the issue, it's how the the servers track that you have it. Create too easy of a source to inflate achievement points, and SE will regret making it a currency.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Pay attention to how much loading time there is between zone changes, 95% of that time is just inventory and inventory-like data. If you have more stuff in your inventory it takes longer to load. New character with nothing? Pretty much instant loads.

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I thought this sounded pretty interesting, so I just tested this out with my lvl 50 with hardly anything, and my lvl 70 that has waaay too many items in their invy and needs cleaning out. No changes to loading time of zones that I could perceive. A little disappointed.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I thought this sounded pretty interesting, so I just tested this out with my lvl 50 with hardly anything, and my lvl 70 that has waaay too many items in their invy and needs cleaning out. No changes to loading time of zones that I could perceive. A little disappointed.

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When the inventory is empty, it compresses to nothing. When the inventory is full, it spends more time processing the inventory data. You'd have to ask someone who has 8 retainers if they noticed a loading time difference with 4.35 with the updated search.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

When the inventory is empty, it compresses to nothing. When the inventory is full, it spends more time processing the inventory data. You'd have to ask someone who has 8 retainers if they noticed a loading time difference with 4.35 with the updated search.

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I have around 4 retainers completely full, a pretty full invy and an almost full chocobo saddlebag. Compared to my lvl 50 with 2 empty retainers, and an almost completely empty invy, I honestly couldn't tell a difference. Maybe it depends on the computer you are using.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

"Complete <insert dungeon> without abilities"

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Pls no, it's already a pain one floor with that shit.

Now if it was something like the chaos studio affix on starcraft 2 coop mutation we can talk (it gives 3 affixes to a coop maps and rotates a new one every few mins)

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

If you have nothing constructive to say, don't butt in. It doesn't take a genius to read WoW's patch notes, or watch any of the videos critical of pretty much everything WoW or FFXIV does, and the criticism Blizzard gets is "overly reliant on PTR" where the criticism SE gets is "treats PC as a second class citizen".

We don't get things in FFXIV "because PS4", that is not Yoshi-P saying that, that is the user base saying that, because Yoshi-P said that in response to why we don't get addons.

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Pointing out your hypocrisy is staggeringly constructive. If we're to go by the metrics the forum provides us, it would seem more people agree with me than you by nature of the like button.

Your examples above are also irrelevant as they still don't give concrete insight into your statement. You are still making assumptions and treating them as facts, when the poster you quoted did the same thing you ridiculed them. I am simply returning the favor.

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Pay attention to how much loading time there is between zone changes, 95% of that time is just inventory and inventory-like data. If you have more stuff in your inventory it takes longer to load. New character with nothing? Pretty much instant loads.

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So to be clear, the poster literally did exactly what you said and discerned no noticeable difference. Why not just be an adult and admit you were wrong, or rather, cite more examples to better defend your position, because being repeatedly dismantled has to be tiring... Right?

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When the inventory is empty, it compresses to nothing. When the inventory is full, it spends more time processing the inventory data. You'd have to ask someone who has 8 retainers if they noticed a loading time difference with 4.35 with the updated search.

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Keep moving that goal post!

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Pay attention to how much loading time there is between zone changes, 95% of that time is just inventory and inventory-like data. If you have more stuff in your inventory it takes longer to load. New character with nothing? Pretty much instant loads. Why do you think the search was changed? Yes this search is slightly better, but it was really a way to stop sending needless inventory updates between zone changes..

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Funny you should mention this. I literally just leveled an alt on my PS4 not more than an hour ago. Her load times were noticeably slow despite her inventory all but barren. You chastise, Kaldea, yet they're entirely correct in calling you hypocritical. What evidence do you have the search addition wasn't simple a QoL improvement, especially since it still spams your chat box should you have the option selected? You don't. Likewise, how do you have any idea how significant a title is on the servers? We're given titles every patch without a hitch yet suddenly a couple extra will prevent new content from being released? Either SE truly is a small indie dev or you have no basis to actually make such claims. Considering you're history... I'll lean towards the latter.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

What evidence do you have the search addition wasn't simple a QoL improvement, especially since it still spams your chat box should you have the option selected? You don't.

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I do in fact, but I'm not risking a ban on the forums just to prove you wrong. Suffice it to say inventory adds load time, and the only time any loading time is reduced is by having slots be empty, because they compress to nothing, and the game client doesn't have to "do" anything. But that is what most of the packets being sent are between loading zones.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I do in fact, but I'm not risking a ban on the forums just to prove you wrong. Suffice it to say inventory adds load time, and the only time any loading time is reduced is by having slots be empty, because they compress to nothing, and the game client doesn't have to "do" anything. But that is what most of the packets being sent are between loading zones.

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Translation: it happens on my low budget machine, therefore, it happens to everyone.