Why is shield swipe so bad?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Wars have maim and storms path and eye that they can keep up indefinitely...

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*rolls eyes*

And PLDs have Rage of Halone debuff and overall better defensive cooldowns, each job has it's own thing. That's a really silly way to make an argument for Shield Swipe to give 10% damage reduction for 10 seconds, which is better than what Foresight gives, an ability that's on a 2 minute cooldown and that lasts for 20 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

*rolls eyes*

And PLDs have Rage of Halone debuff and overall better defensive cooldowns, each job has it's own thing. That's a really silly way to make an argument for Shield Swipe to give 10% damage reduction for 10 seconds, which is better than what Foresight gives, an ability that's on a 2 minute cooldown and that lasts for 20 seconds.

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I said "defense increase", not "damage reduction". So it would only be half of what Foresight gives.

Shield Swipe is a TP management skill happens to deal slightly more damage than the average RoH combo.

If I didn't have Shield Swipe I would run out of TP standing there tanking Melusine in t7. When my static's dps was on the low side in t8 Shield Swipe would help conserve TP so I wouldn't run out before the boss started casting brainjacks.

It's a good skill and definitely useful in certain situations.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

I said "defense increase", not "damage reduction". So it would only be half of what Foresight gives.

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My bad then.

Though, being that the case, you're basically saying that Shield Swipe would become useful if it gave roughly a 2.5% damage reduction for 10 seconds? Something tells me it would still be considered useless given how awesome people think Foresight is.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

*rolls eyes*

And PLDs have Rage of Halone debuff and overall better defensive cooldowns, each job has it's own thing. That's a really silly way to make an argument for Shield Swipe to give 10% damage reduction for 10 seconds, which is better than what Foresight gives, an ability that's on a 2 minute cooldown and that lasts for 20 seconds.

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I didn't say which buff or debuff to give it, was only in response to you saying it would be unfair for pld to have a buff they could keep up indefinitely.

Hell, they could make it increase heals recieved for all i care, kinda like what aegis boon used to do, in a way.

Edit. Actually, just make it Aegis Boon.

Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Bucy

Pacification is too situational. It doesn't interrupt anything that is being cast and doesn't last very long.

My solution to making Shield Swipe worthwhile is to make it so that it bonuses Rage of Halone.

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Yeah it will. If the debuff applies before the ability finishes, the ability just never happens. Done it plenty of times.

220 potency ability that costs 40TP and does not interrupt your RoH combo. How is that bad? Sure, it doesn't have an enmity modifier, but if you already have a huge lead, that isn't a problem. It's a good DPS tool.

Maybe a buff generated by shield swipe some explosive zeal, each stack increases healing potency and casting speed 10% and holy attacks by 5%- stacks to 5 (consumed on action matching conditions). Whip out a half decent cure or slap out pretty number on spirits within. *I don't think spirits within is aspected but I was thinking circle of scorn and spirits within as holy like.

Aegis Boon would be nice :P

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Originally Posted by Sove92

220 potency ability that costs 40TP and does not interrupt your RoH combo. How is that bad? Sure, it doesn't have an enmity modifier, but if you already have a huge lead, that isn't a problem. It's a good DPS tool.

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Not to mention it helps you slow down TP starvation. That long argument about how it slows down you getting to Rage of Halone becomes pointless when you don't have the TP to use Halone, but you do have enough for Swipe.

I think Shield Swipe should have been off the global cooldown to be honest. It's not worth the small amount of extra damage otherwise, and I have never seen pacify do anything useful. If they did put it off the global cooldown then they would have to add a 15-20 second cooldown to it though. Otherwise, if you're in a situation where you're out of TP, either switch with the off-tank to regain it, have a Bard play Army's Paeon, or simply taper out your usage. If you're running out of TP in a 4-man dungeon or a Primal fight, then the fight has been going on for too long.