Best Gear in Coil needs to end

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Originally Posted by Ferth

I dunno about coil not providing the best gear. But 4 man dungeons dropping gear 30-55 Ilvls lower than current top tier is certainly asinine.

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that dungeons provide tokens to buy ilvl 90 gear , and the last boss tokens for ilvl 100, boss drops from experts are for fresh 50 and vanity

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Originally Posted by Aaron_T

You want people to progress in player skill and not just gear but then again -snip- But I 100% agree there needs to be more than one way to progress not just gear.

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There's already skill based progression. Ask any of the people who have T9 down (multiple groups now), along with any other content when it was just added, that did it without the gear crutch so many people rely on.

Sounds like OP may just need a break. Also.. he has yet to beat T9 but he is right in that there is nothing to do aside from coil for the best gear. Kinda sad... some nice side grades that arent coil related would be nice

I really don't think it matters what SE does in the long run. People with the same mindset like the OP will burn through it as fast as they can so that they can complain about it after. It's either too little or too much. There's no such thing as a middle ground for the "rush" crowd. They either consume everything they can in as short of time as possible, or they limit themselves by only caring about one specific goal and feel there's no other aspect to the game. Again, it doesn't matter what SE does for these people. Just let them complain.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

There's already skill based progression. Ask any of the people who have T9 down (multiple groups now), along with any other content when it was just added, that did it without the gear crutch so many people rely on.

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Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...

I just wish there was more significant 4-man content at endgame. Luckily my FC is pretty close to having a stable group of 10 or so people geared enough to start tackling the extremes and coil but until that point we're kinda just in a holding pattern. Pugging extremes is just a nightmare. Pugging anything but the early coils likewise. It would be great if there was 4 man content that was really challenging and dropped worthwhile rewards. As it is now, if there's nobody in the FC on that needs help with anything there's little point in doing any 4 mans aside from farming Bray for tomes to upgrade gear.

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Originally Posted by Taei

There needs to be more variation and choices. I know people that are done with their daily coil and finished animus and are now SO BORED that they are even doing another Atma quest.

There needs to be more options for gear with other content, it really cannot continue to be coil all the time...

Maybe even make it so that you can continue to upgrade the Levi Weapon up to 110/115 with more mirrors, idk. SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.

It's only been about a month and it's already starting to feel like the end of 2.1 with nothing to do except for coil.

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I hear life has some pretty hard quests now and then ;). Maybe people should try it now and then.

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...

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Haha you have no idea what you're talking about

Welcome to the modern era of MMO vertical gear progression

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

Yoshi-P himself said their DPS output was amazing. Sorry, but there is not much skill just to BURN with maxed DPS anything that crosses the path...
Sure its not easy to max DPS but currently thats the only thing that counts, expect avoiding with learning the patterns, there isnt much skill involved...
As long as this game relys solely on a DPS race it will have problems with progression...

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I don't think you've taken a step into t6-9.