Is Inner Beast Duration To Short ? Vote

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Originally Posted by samircury

I personally have problems when swap tankers (Titan ex) and i have to maintain agroo and leave GCD free to pops IB for montain brust, can be done, but requires perfect timing on swaping/rotation, that makes things harder when playing on DF or PUGs.

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Ya, this is a really good point for how it being on GCD really doesn't work well. I can usually plan for Titan EX, but there is occasions where between putting up SP, trying to maintain threat over the pug PLD, and put up IB for that MB is just a matter of *lesser of evils*. Usually that means throwing out a SS, letting SP drop, and throwing out IB. It is far more noticeable on Ifrit EX where breaths come so often I feel I am IBing more then BB/SP comboing.

While Death Sentence is somewhat timed, it is not exact, it is a 32 second window that it *can't* happen. So there is definitely hang time there to make sure IB will go off right when we see DS charge bar, or you just hope that within the 6 seconds after 32 seconds covers the DS time.

So again, like most of us are saying, IB oGCD would be best. I like the feel of the 6 second window, and how it can be powerful, it is just hindered by a 2.5 second GCD currently making IB very uncomfortable. Making it weaker and over longer intervals would lose some Warrior flavor IMO.

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Originally Posted by Moonwolfthegrey

Can inner beast miss?

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I think Argyle was more referencing the fact that you can't use IB to benefit from the DR if there isn't a target in melee with you, as opposed to the minute possibility of not hitting the target if you don't have enough accuracy. If the boss you're fighting has vanished (like Garuda) or is out of range (like t4 if you're kiting or pulling), you don't get to use IB, which means no DR for stuff you might like to have 6 seconds of DR for.

The duration I find fine, the main issue I have with it is it being on GCD. Often times if I know a big attack is coming at some point soon without a big indicator, it means to be able to have IB ready I need to stand around like a moron just waiting.

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Originally Posted by Kaonis

I need to stand around like a moron just waiting.

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Actually, the moron would go on with their skills ignoring that wait to pop IB. At least, that's how I see it.

Yeah I understand u need to hit something to use inner beast, but I was wondering if it can miss, I personally haven't ever seen it miss, maybe because I haven't run coil yet. But has anyone ever seen it miss?
And if it does miss then I think it should be made so that it doesn't seeing as how essential it is to our tanking, also comparing with the PLD equivalent which doesn't

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Originally Posted by Moonwolfthegrey

Yeah I understand u need to hit something to use inner beast, but I was wondering if it can miss, I personally haven't ever seen it miss, maybe because I haven't run coil yet. But has anyone ever seen it miss?
And if it does miss then I think it should be made so that it doesn't seeing as how essential it is to our tanking, also comparing with the PLD equivalent which doesn't

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Personally, I think Inner Beast have missed once for me but I have no proof to back it up or deny it. It was during Caduceus that I notice I couldn't get the mitigation up as usual cause my accuracy was low. I think it's fine as is. It forces you to get that accuracy up which helps with building wrath stacks also since any of the skills can miss putting you back to Heavy Swing, thus delay your stack generation by 2 GCDs.

while i certainly wouldn't complain, i don't feel its necessary. once you know the fight, you'll get a feel for when its need and the 5 secs will be plenty. if WAR's get another buff, i'd either want it to be something that improves holmgang.

My only complaint about IB is that it's not an off-GCD skill. Waiting for the critical moment to pop IB without constantly throwing normal GCD skills is kind of like waiting to use rampage in ff11 while watching tp goes way beyond 100%. It's a big let-down in the entertaining wise.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Actually, the moron would go on with their skills ignoring that wait to pop IB. At least, that's how I see it.

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The first big issue is that it's a big dependency between the tank classes, if a boss has a big attack I need IB for then it means there comes a point where I have to stand around and not do anything to be ready for it. No threat generation, no damage, no putting up debuffs, no building stacks of wrath because the GCD will mess things up. PLD doesn't have this as an issue period, their cooldowns are all off GCD so they don't have to stand around doing nothing to ensure they can get a cooldown off, let alone even their shortest cool down is on a longer timer than IB. So timing things doesn't need to be as exact for them.

Secondly I feel like it's a complete waste to not be doing things in a fight, especially when it's due to something not really well thought out.

either 8 seconds or off-gcd, would be great.