Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

I was tanking Kugane Castle and the healer got absolutely furious with me over countdowns. Like seriously irate over it. All I did was start a 5 second countdown at every boss so everyone knew when I'd pull and this healer started insulting me and threatening to not heal me over it.

Did I do something wrong? I'm so confused.

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Originally Posted by Corue

Angry healer

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No you didn't. Healer was just being a whiny little b****

There is nothing wrong with using countdowns

EDIT : albeit, they shouldn't be long either. I think 15 tops is reasonable

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Originally Posted by Corue

I was tanking Kugane Castle and the healer got absolutely furious with me over countdowns. Like seriously irate over it. All I did was start a 5 second countdown at every boss so everyone knew when I'd pull and this healer started insulting me and threatening to not heal me over it.

Did I do something wrong? I'm so confused.

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You did nothing wrong, that healer was just...different(trying to be nice about it...). If someone gets irate over a 5second countdown before each boss, that's a problem with them, and not you(if it was 30seconds before each boss, then I could - somewhat - understand their position, but 5 seconds is nothing(heck, I would use the time to take a drink).

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Originally Posted by Issac

Playing on a JP server, I only ever get comms when I mess up. Why? No idea.
Otherwise I'm pretty sure no one gets them because they always leave so fast, hah.

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I get comms on BLM when I die - I'm preeettty sure they're pity comms lmao

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Originally Posted by Corue

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Nothing wrong. Even on BLM, I appreciate at least a 5 second countdown so I can time my first B3 cast or move to a decent position if I know the fight well. Even 10 and 15 seconds is fine, especially if the healer is a SCH or an AST and they're fishing for crit adlo or good cards. Healer was just being salty.

Had a midly annoying vault run (on bard) with a lot of death but strangely no wipes. Second and third boss can basically be summed up as: Healer dies first due to afking for some reason, tank dies after holding out with holmgang, then I naturally die next and the dragoon finishes off the boss with LB.

What caught my eye first was the AST using balances on the tank, the defiance tank. Then during the second boss I'm pretty sure they weren't lagging. They were targeted by the circular ground aoe that causes heavy but only moved right as the aoe did the second bit of damage (with the heavy) basically instantly killing the healer. They also died immediately after holy flames on ser sickness purge. Despite all of this we still never wiped but came really close to it on both the second and third boss.

I've seen people leave fast but man that healer booked it out of the dungeon real quick.

No one said a word the entire run. Probably a good thing.

I'm just gonna plain say almost every game with someone from Odin(EU) in it makes me almost cry. There seems to be nothing to please them. Everything you try to do (or do) is wrong, everything you don't do is wrong too. Being humorous doesn't work either. All seems wrong. It's kinda depressing to mainly have experiences which consist of get hit with as much elitism (or just hostility?) as possible. All that by just one server's folk. Man, what is happening over there?

this shin ex pt was doomed from the start... first pull, our sch can't stay alive very long into p1. we replace and go back in. everyone is doing pretty well until p3 where we have a few deaths but everyone gets up. we plug away until reiryus, then half our party is wiped out (from what, idk tho). blow an lb3 to raise everyone, it's time to hop on the wings but we have no lb! obviously we wipe, then the tank catches an attitude, says "i hate this group.", blames the dps and leaves. typical of pf fashion, everyone leaves after and my friends and i have a laugh about "i hate this group." it's our meme now.

I got stuck with a pally tank in a 60 duty finder who didn't grab agro very fast, didn't flash for additional mobs and then seemed to run in circles watching me trying not to die on my Nin. Ok, so first trash up to the boss was hairy, she'll tank the boss. NOPE. I ended up tanking and popping cool downs, tossing potions until 3/4 of the fight was over. My brother was the other dps as brd. We opted after the fight to instigate a removal of the tank after which the healer threw a fit and left. What went through my mind was "It's a -60- dungeon! By this time hate control should be understood."

I felt it wasn't my job to teach them tanking in a -60- dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Kakiko

I get comms on BLM when I die - I'm preeettty sure they're pity comms lmao

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When people die to 1 shots, fall of edges or even get knocked off by Titan they all really amuse me xD I'd comm these,
Sometimes I like to Dragonfire dive to my death for group amusement in alliance

Does any other BLM players hate it or get confused when they're in a dungeon, trial, or raid party and you get a DRG (maybe even several as I've been in a Sigmascape normal Kefka run that had two DRGs, one BLM (myself), and a MCH), and you watch the DRG (hoping that they'll give you their "best friends forever" tether) and instead...they give it not to the monk, not to the summoner, not to any other melee or ranged class....but to the tank(s).

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Does any other BLM players hate it or get confused when they're in a dungeon, trial, or raid party and you get a DRG (maybe even several as I've been in a Sigmascape normal Kefka run that had two DRGs, one BLM (myself), and a MCH), and you watch the DRG (hoping that they'll give you their "best friends forever" tether) and instead...they give it not to the monk, not to the summoner, not to any other melee or ranged class....but to the tank(s).

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My favorite is when the DRG is using a macro for their tether, and it goes to the non-DPSing healer. I’m like ????

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Originally Posted by Darric

I'm just gonna plain say almost every game with someone from Odin(EU) in it makes me almost cry. There seems to be nothing to please them. Everything you try to do (or do) is wrong, everything you don't do is wrong too. Being humorous doesn't work either. All seems wrong. It's kinda depressing to mainly have experiences which consist of get hit with as much elitism (or just hostility?) as possible. All that by just one server's folk. Man, what is happening over there?

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Odin is one of the main raiding servers in EU. I used to be on that server. Left due to other reasons, but can assure you it wasn't most of the Odin playerbase (unless it drastically changed since I left). Sorry to hear you've been running into the bottom of the barrel with the server though.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Odin is one of the main raiding servers in EU. I used to be on that server. Left due to other reasons, but can assure you it wasn't most of the Odin playerbase (unless it drastically changed since I left). Sorry to hear you've been running into the bottom of the barrel with the server though.

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Thanks for condolences. I'm usually a nice guy who does into DF with positivity in mind and do what my job can do to assist the team, not what others want me to do. Sadly, most bad exp is tied to just to ppl of said server, with increasing frequency lately. The worst are the ones who flame you for things like using AND not using LB on non-boss enemies. Then you get dismissed for doing either of the two. I wish there was a server block for cross-world party.

You do tend to get a run now and again of bad players from certain servers. I was convinced for a time omega had the dregs of humanity on it they were consistently awful. Now, not so much. Zodiark players and fellow louisoix players always seem really nice. Just luck I suppose and who you get dumped in with on that dungeon.

ShinEx learning party last night. Four of us had never done it at all, and five hadn't cleared it. After a couple of false starts (someone came to an advertised learning party expecting to get a kill on the third attempt?), we got this great WAR who invited everyone to his Discord for callouts, and combined with the RDM who started the group to help us clear (hi Moro!), was super patient. They even accommodated my "I can't have a marker for phase 3 on my head because I can't see the tail marker in phase 1" frustration.

And with 21 minutes on the timer, we started another attempt to get the clear. Go team!

Just wanted to put it out there because while PF is sometimes a crapshow, there's also some really awesome people in there.

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Originally Posted by Rhus

You do tend to get a run now and again of bad players from certain servers. I was convinced for a time omega had the dregs of humanity on it they were consistently awful. Now, not so much. Zodiark players and fellow louisoix players always seem really nice. Just luck I suppose and who you get dumped in with on that dungeon.

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While certainly no server is save from potential dregs, it becomes conspicious that there's something not right on a server when like 90% of matched folks acts like total D's especially in DF. And that multiple times in a row, on the same day. However, on your point to Omega, I gotta admit there can be quite a big ratio of hardcore RPers (and furries, IYKWIM) as I noticed - who might not care as much about effective gameplay.

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Originally Posted by Darric

While certainly no server is save from potential dregs, it becomes conspicious that there's something not right on a server when like 90% of matched folks acts like total D's especially in DF. And that multiple times in a row, on the same day. However, on your point to Omega, I gotta admit there can be quite a big ratio of hardcore RPers (and furries, IYKWIM) as I noticed - who might not care as much about effective gameplay.

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There are lots of people who don't care/know how to go about effective gameplay. Whether that's because they are 90% asleep, have run the instance a millions times(yes, exaggeration), are trying to be trolls, or just don't know better, it's sometimes hard to tell....especially since not all sprouts are truly "new", some might be an alt.

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Originally Posted by killstein

this shin ex pt was doomed from the start... first pull, our sch can't stay alive very long into p1. we replace and go back in. everyone is doing pretty well until p3 where we have a few deaths but everyone gets up. we plug away until reiryus, then half our party is wiped out (from what, idk tho). blow an lb3 to raise everyone, it's time to hop on the wings but we have no lb! obviously we wipe, then the tank catches an attitude, says "i hate this group.", blames the dps and leaves. typical of pf fashion, everyone leaves after and my friends and i have a laugh about "i hate this group." it's our meme now.

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That's pretty bad. You didn't need LB to kill the wings in i330 gear, let alone i360+ gear.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Does any other BLM players hate it or get confused when they're in a dungeon, trial, or raid party and you get a DRG (maybe even several as I've been in a Sigmascape normal Kefka run that had two DRGs, one BLM (myself), and a MCH), and you watch the DRG (hoping that they'll give you their "best friends forever" tether) and instead...they give it not to the monk, not to the summoner, not to any other melee or ranged class....but to the tank(s).

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To be fair, if you're not in position to get the tether I'm not going to move to give it to you. On the topic of giving it to the tank, I've asked numerous DRGs over the months to give me tether. if I'm 1st or second highest DPS it goes to me not the NIN/RDM who is sustained 2k DPS in a dungeon. Some DRGs even do this natively without me saying anything because they're in the know.

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Originally Posted by Tridus

ShinEx learning party last night. Four of us had never done it at all, and five hadn't cleared it. After a couple of false starts (someone came to an advertised learning party expecting to get a kill on the third attempt?), we got this great WAR who invited everyone to his Discord for callouts, and combined with the RDM who started the group to help us clear (hi Moro!), was super patient. They even accommodated my "I can't have a marker for phase 3 on my head because I can't see the tail marker in phase 1" frustration.

And with 21 minutes on the timer, we started another attempt to get the clear. Go team!

Just wanted to put it out there because while PF is sometimes a crapshow, there's also some really awesome people in there.

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I love PF sometimes. Especially 1st week "learning parties". When people are on the same page it's a nice touch. It's especially why I like learning parties, it removes the I'm trying to get carried to a clear people. Once in a blue moon someone gets confused (clicked on wrong pt, or can't read english).

However, a lot of "clear" parties have a minimum of 1 person who doesn't truly belong.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Does any other BLM players hate it or get confused when they're in a dungeon, trial, or raid party and you get a DRG (maybe even several as I've been in a Sigmascape normal Kefka run that had two DRGs, one BLM (myself), and a MCH), and you watch the DRG (hoping that they'll give you their "best friends forever" tether) and instead...they give it not to the monk, not to the summoner, not to any other melee or ranged class....but to the tank(s).

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When I was running as DRG, 9/10 the BLM is off in Narnia so the only logical choice is to give it to the tank who is right there, on the other side of the boss/mob, and not going to be running off to who knows where. If there was a melee DPS, I would give it to them(if they weren't going to be running off to Narnia to visit Aslan). The majority of the time, the DRG chooses the person who will stay close enough to not break the tether.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

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As a black mage main, Narnia is one of the best places to be. :P

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Originally Posted by Avatre

When I was running as DRG, 9/10 the BLM is off in Narnia so the only logical choice is to give it to the tank who is right there, on the other side of the boss/mob, and not going to be running off to who knows where. If there was a melee DPS, I would give it to them(if they weren't going to be running off to Narnia to visit Aslan). The majority of the time, the DRG chooses the person who will stay close enough to not break the tether.

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And I do get that, you will come across BLM's that refuse to move closer because we've been subconsciously trained to stay away from the boss. But, what should I do when I'm literally standing right next to the DRG (because I've learned that when there's one in the party to stay up on his ass like it's hot), and they STILL give it to the tank. D:

Was in Pony Farm for Ifrit to help my friend - Nightmare dropped the leader won and said, "YES FINALLY NOW I CAN GET KIRIN!!" Disbanded PT.

A few minutes or so later he was back in PF again.

Rip.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Was in Pony Farm for Ifrit to help my friend - Nightmare dropped the leader won and said, "YES FINALLY NOW I CAN GET KIRIN!!" Disbanded PT.

A few minutes or so later he was back in PF again.

Rip.

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Sorry but what is Kirin?

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

Sorry but what is Kirin?

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The pony reward for collecting the 6 elemental ponies.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8G0UIpprPJk/maxresdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

Sorry but what is Kirin?

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I assume they meant the pony you get when you collect all ponies.

And Nightmare is the one pony that doesn't count towards being able to get it.

Ah Mentor Roulette. The place where the dungeon can be 46min in progress(Praetorium), with them already fighting the final boss, and you walk away with commendations. Roughly 1min to finish(didn't have to do ANYTHING), and got 4 commendations.

Edit: Second Mentor Rou of the night puts me in Ifrit NM...wonder what third one will be!

I got into susano norm on trial roulette. I'm a healer. The other healer said he'd not done it before. Fine, I thought. It might get rough, I thought, but it'd be fine. The new healer dies about three times. Half the DPS gets wiped. We lose each tank at various points. I use angel feathers to resurrect the entire party and half-solo heal the entire thing because I'm resurrecting the rest of the group while trying to keep enough MP to even use physick. And despite all that, we manage to beat it first try.

I think I just learnt what a heart attack feels like.

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Originally Posted by ko_

Explain to me....

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Might want to edit your post to not include the large number of expletives. Unless you're okay with a temporary forum ban, of course.

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Originally Posted by ko_

Tanks need to...

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Might want to edit your post to not include the large number of expletives. Unless you're okay with a temporary forum ban, of course.

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I mean I have seen worse on here... but if it's touchy like that then wtf. :/

Doesn't change the fact tanks need to use their Fing CDS. It's freaking stupid they can not use them and people DEFEND them!!!! Like how is it MY fault and I need to learn cause your tank can't hold hate AND doesn't know what a CD is? The whole dungeon was him losing hate to everyone and the sun. Not using cooldowns making my job as a whm even harder cause I had to baby sit him on heals. and I did this with no wipes AND while still dpsing and most likely the highest DPS in the dungeon too. And then to tell me I shouldn't be in higher content and leaving before anyone can say anything .... groan. People like that make me hate people in this game so much. I see why healers in this game are so judgemental and pissed all the time. The tank was so bad it'll been better if he wasn't there. THATS how bad he was. But yeah, that hit my rage meter extra fast.

Got a whiny BRD who wanted me to pull the entire dungeon in Shisui yesterday. He told me after some pulls to aggro more but told him I wasn't gonna do it because the mobs hit pretty hard in that one (though that might only be with me).

Before the second boss, he decided it would be fun to pull some packs but hey, "You pull it you tank it." Which led to this exchange.

https://i.imgur.com/uKJjUZx.png

After the fight he tried to whine some more about how we couldn't survive without the healer or how difficult my job was...to which I responded "Gonna need bigger baits than that."

Speaking of the Healer, he encouraged me to pull more, stating I was doing fine but respected my wish, compared to the BRD.

Needless to say I was laughing a bit :rolleyes:

Levi EX, unsynced for WT.
Someone provides the friendly reminder to not burn fast and be sure to clear the gyres or we're doomed.
Party successfully clears gyre mechanic.
Nobody activates the converter.
*glub glub glub*

Followed by a "burned too fast" wipe, and a "we just barely cleared this with one man standing" after the party gets wrecked by standard AoEs and splashing overboard.

I hope SE never stops making trials that will forever burn players expecting old content = faceroll content.

Yet another moan from me about people ignoring adds, and just wailiing on the boss without bothering to check if the healer is ok >.> Again, I got no problems on focusing dps on the boss, but I'm on BLM and see everyone ignoring the healer taking an unnecessary pummelling... yes he/she can dodge/hit sprint, I don't give a flying fart if it shaves a few seconds off the boss, as a BLM I gonna use those aoes to protect my team, ESPECIALLY the person who keeps us alive >.> I did get a commendation though, which was surprising, I wonder who that was? :p

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Originally Posted by ko_

I mean I have seen worse on here... but if it's touchy like that then wtf. :/

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My girlfriend got a 12-day suspension for saying "fan-f***ing-tastic" as a joke once. That was the only thing in her post. Since anyone can look at posts and this is the official XIV forum, they don't take swearing lightly as it looks bad. It's just a matter of if your post gets reported or not, most of the time people don't bother so it goes under the radar.

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Originally Posted by AxHell

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Shisui hits like a truck. It's one of those dungeons I'm always cautious about big pulling until I see how the healer can handle those first couple of packs. If they're struggling to keep me alive, or (god forbid) I have to Hallowed Ground, then the pulls are small. If I know the healer and know they can keep me up, I'll do bigger ones but even then it's still a bit dicey if your DPS aren't up to par.

That BRD needs to go through that as a new healer and have a tank do mega wall-to-wall pulls. That's what happened the first time I ran that on AST (at level) and it was terrible.

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Originally Posted by Kallistra

My girlfriend got a 12-day suspension for saying "fan-f***ing-tastic" as a joke once. That was the only thing in her post. Since anyone can look at posts and this is the official XIV forum, they don't take swearing lightly as it looks bad. It's just a matter of if your post gets reported or not, most of the time people don't bother so it goes under the radar.

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I got a 7 day ban for implying someone's actions could make him look like an a-hole. I was a bit surprised about that one as it was such a mild comment, and I don't have a history of flying off the handle or cursing up a storm in my posts. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't!

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Originally Posted by Kakiko

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Disregarding the BRD (because who cares about him now ?), the only time I did "big pulls" was with the two packs, each placed behind a curtain, right after the first boss. That makes 6 mobs in total, then the two packs that come aftewards (before the second boss) where some archers are shooting at you which also amounts to 6 mobs.

At the beginning, I think you can try and pull the two first packs but the last one before the first "water-spring" summons new mob so safety might be required.

After the second boss I don't think you can do big pull as you need to kill the packs in order to open a barrier...I think ? I never paid attention :o

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Originally Posted by AxHell

After the second boss I don't think you can do big pull as you need to kill the packs in order to open a barrier...I think ? I never paid attention :o

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You can pull the big blue crab up the ramp to the pack of three up there but it's kind of pointless in my opinion because he has a large AoE that he casts that can be annoying to deal with while also having bombfish spawning literally on top of you.

In general I have seen double pulls in Shisui work out just fine but I definitely think that BRD needed to chill. If I'm healing a dungeon and know I can take more I'll let the tank know (like your healer did) but just like I wouldn't want to by pushed out of my comfort zone I wouldn't want to do that to someone else so I think that BRD should go eat a bag of sea cucumbers.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Big blue crab BOI

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About the crab, I prefer to have the whole party focus on it as he is a very tanky blue boi.

As for how big the pulls can be, I try to see with the healer if we can agree on a "size" in certain dungeons.
For example the normal version of the Tomberry dungeons ? I tell them I'll do big pulls because of the need to run away from the big tomberries and ask them if they're okay with this.

Same for the dungeon with SLOPPEH at the end with all the packs right before it.