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Originally Posted by sVankerRabbi

I have farmed A12S on BLM with over 300ms ping, an achievement I notice your previous sub-100ms self has not uploaded to fflogs. While I can certainly agree that higher ping makes it impossible to play BLM 100% optimized, you don't actually need to be perfect at your job to clear any of the content in this game - you just need to be good enough.Your ping went up and you can't play perfectly, I get it, but your own published records show you never played perfectly anyway. So if you'll allow me to be rude? Perhaps if you spent more time studying to perfect your job instead of lamenting on the internet then you'd have some A12S kills on fflogs by now.

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People wonder why we do not have Parser in game... Welp now you know, stuff like this. You shouldn't have to use 3rd party programs, when used in this manner, GMs take action on, and have them be catalog on some 3rd party site to share a concern.

(BLM is prob the easiest thing to play in the world even with high ping, fyi, you only suffer a bit of DPS knowing you have this issue and not performing super tight Enochians. I will say I do find it a bit of "BS" that person is having issues as a blm under 100 ms, but I do not advice in trying to criticizing them in this manner.)

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I didnt even notice a difference going from 100 to 30. I never had issues at 100 as it was. people are overstating things severely.

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Because you can't see what people are talking about, it is that simple, you need to be able to have high reaction times. It also depends on job. Besides it is more about the bad coding that I am hoping that gets addressed, that allows people see issues between 30 and 100 ms. It is also coding issues that people still see issues at 30 ms.

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Originally Posted by sVankerRabbi

Did you reply to the wrong post? I never said anything in my post commenting on whether SE was justified in their server relocation - only they know the reasons for it and they're not prepared to tell us. Please make your inferences based on what has actually been written and communicated, not assumed implications. The connection of sub-optimal play = justified server relocation is absolute nonsense and I don't support it in the slightest.

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It is not putting words in your mouth, it is the imply meaning you can pull what you said. It is that kind elitist GMs have a strong stance on parser harassment in game. You basically said "you must be not be performing good enough so you go no room to complain about latency". It is insanely rude. You got any proof why you should be saying this?

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

I definitely can't play nin or blm anymore unless I want to be trash at them, 100ms+ being playable is a total lie, only paladin is unaffected.
Shame they were they were the jobs I loved the most, but now swiftcast is not working properly and everything clip on nin, time to become a drg main.

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Here is the second part of the quote you seem to be agressive on. I seen a swiftcast error today, even by mouse clicking on top of things. I clicked swiftcast, then clicked on summon I, then I started to HARDCAST summon I. I moved to interrupt it to make the swiftcast work with it.

https://i.gyazo.com/508fad582f171662...66b54d88b3.png

I do not need to be on ff logs to express issues such as ^ that. fix the coding please?

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Originally Posted by Hitsuzen

You shouldn't expect them to know any better. A lotttt of foreigners think traveling from california to texas is like pulling into a walmart, but it really isn't. Heck driving from San Diego, CA to Sacramento is still a hell of a drive probably 12ish hours.

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>___________> More like 7-8 hours yo. California to Texas is very significant though.

A flight I just took from Los Angeles (my home) to New Orleans, is about as long of a distance as from France to Moscow. The former being about 2/3rds the 'length' of the USA as it were. USA is big.

Lol this is hilarious.

I play on NA servers and I live in Australia. Before the move I was getting 300-400ms.

I also cleared Savage with my static months ago. Most of which live on the west coast.

Do you really need to live next door to the server just to raid? That is absolutely hilarious.

I am surprised that your NIN stuck around for so long while playing with complete asshats.

I live on the West Coast, Oregon, beat all of savage alex and farmed all the gear in the old data center. 50 or so higher ping you might get from playing on the East Coast doesn't really do much of anything.

I saw a party finder last night that stated no players above 100ms ping.

Never had issues beating content playing from the West Coast. Beat A12S several months ago. A small change in ping really does nothing to the gameplay. West Coast players really had no problems all this time playing with the server being on the East Coast.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

My ping went from 150 to 430 on the East Coast so I'm.. ; ; I might have to give up raiding for a while.

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That sounds both very strange and a little unbelievable.

Your ISP sounds horrible. Might want to jump ship to a better company.
If not, consider using a VPN such as WTFast or Pingzapper which will likely solve your issue.

Meh, I went from 53ms to 61ms, and I live in Georgia, dont even notice the difference. I am trying to figure out how people's ping went from 50 to 175ms. Like explain please

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Originally Posted by Derio

Meh, I went from 53ms to 61ms, and I live in Georgia, dont even notice the difference. I am trying to figure out how people's ping went from 50 to 175ms. Like explain please

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Bad ISP's routing horribly.

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Originally Posted by Altena

That sounds both very strange and a little unbelievable.

Your ISP sounds horrible. Might want to jump ship to a better company.
If not, consider using a VPN such as WTFast or Pingzapper which will likely solve your issue.

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Unless I'm not doing it right.

Ping statistics for 195.82.50.9:
Minimum = 465ms, Maximum = 556ms, Average = 501ms
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.9:
Minimum = 271ms, Maximum = 545ms, Average = 411ms
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.10:
Minimum = 348ms, Maximum = 532ms, Average = 454ms

My ISP is the only one available in my area, I can't get anything else. I shouldn't have to pay for an alternate program either on top of a monthly sub for a game.

If I'm running the ping wrong though, someone please let me know!

I just logged out.

Was fighting the Cruise Chaser in Alexander. Died five times with NOTHING AROUND ME! I have never died in that fight before tonight. I live in NC, and I'm running speed test right now, and I have plenty of bandwidth and speed.

This is utter BS what they did. Last night, didn't have any issues. This time, running Dragoon on a fight that requires timing, I have no shot.

I'm so damn angry at this moment. I nearly threw my keyboard through my TV.

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Originally Posted by Astrapls

Atlantic Canada, went from 30ms to 150ms. Routing is awful.
Using WTFast or similar programs I drop to about 97ms with much better routing.

Just sucks essentially adding another $10 a month to my monthy sub. Especially with the USD to CAD exchange.

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How far in Atlantic Canada do you live? I'm in Sydney and I went from 40 MS > 80 :S

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

My ISP is the only one available in my area, I can't get anything else. I shouldn't have to pay for an alternate program either on top of a monthly sub for a game.

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Isn't this exactly what many players on the West Coast, Oceania, and South America have had to do for the past 4 years?

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Originally Posted by Ryel

Isn't this exactly what many players on the West Coast, Oceania, and South America have had to do for the past 4 years?

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From what I'm reading, most of the people from the West coast talking about ping started out at 150 and, for the most part, went down from there. So..

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And no, no one should have to pay to have a better gaming experience. That should be up to the company we're PAYING for the game. They make enough money to have things more balanced.

Went from 150 to 430+.
Over on East Coast, FL.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Meh, I went from 53ms to 61ms, and I live in Georgia, dont even notice the difference. I am trying to figure out how people's ping went from 50 to 175ms. Like explain please

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It's simple geography. Georgia is very south compared to Montreal, so the relative distance to Montreal (1,969.5 km) and Sacramento (3,971.9 km) from Georgia is relatively less than someone who lives in Northeast U.S. Let's take someone who lives in NYC as an example. NYC to Montreal (598.5 km) and Sacramento (4,536.8 km) are significantly farther apart. I.e. your distance roughly doubled, but other's distance potentially went up almost by an entire magnitude so they will see a larger increase than you.

From 6 to 98

hmm..

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Originally Posted by Derio

Meh, I went from 53ms to 61ms, and I live in Georgia, dont even notice the difference. I am trying to figure out how people's ping went from 50 to 175ms. Like explain please

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For me, in NC, my signal to them routes through Atlanta. That's the direction Spectrum is sending it--Supposedly the fastest way.

My ping has nearly doubled at peak time. I was at around 50-80, now I'm at 90-150.

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Originally Posted by SilkaN

The mods were kidnapped BY A MENTOR!!!!!

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AAAAAAAHH!!

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

My ping went from 150 to around 410-430 so I mean... that's a pretty big change on my end. I'm trying to time things to dodge now and it's just not working out in my favor. I have to become a psychic.

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I've played with 460 ping before, you have to play a class that is a caster for sprint, and learn boss rotations. Most bosses actually use their special abilities at set intervals. With titan ex, the time periods between tulmults, landslides and weights are around the same, so you eventually get the feel of it, and move before the aoe appears.

You may have to do a server move like I had to when EU Servers moved (this is what made me have 460 ping), to find a server with better ping.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

Unless I'm not doing it right.

Ping statistics for 195.82.50.9:
Minimum = 465ms, Maximum = 556ms, Average = 501ms
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.9:
Minimum = 271ms, Maximum = 545ms, Average = 411ms
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.10:
Minimum = 348ms, Maximum = 532ms, Average = 454ms

My ISP is the only one available in my area, I can't get anything else. I shouldn't have to pay for an alternate program either on top of a monthly sub for a game.

If I'm running the ping wrong though, someone please let me know!

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Your ISP is routing you to some wonky places by the looks of it. Though I am not all that knowledgable in this area.

It's not SE's doing here. It's your ISP.
It's almost like saying "I don't want to upgrade my potato computer to play a modern game. I want the latest games to run on my 233mHz Pentium 2."

If you were getting 150ms while living on the east coast, then that should be proof enough, as you should have been sub-100 to begin with.

The only way around this is a VPN. $4 per month for pingzapper. Best investment you can make if you really care about your gaming.
$4 is less than a pack of cigarettes or a beer. Per month. Just trying to put that into perspective.

No offence intended here but I don't buy this whole "I don't want to pay for another service on top of my sub to play a game". If you care enough about playing then the added cost of $4 per month shouldn't be an issue. I have been doing this since pre-2.0 and I never thought twice about it after I started using it.

It IS an issue for everyone who has to PAY for an ADDITIONAL program to play a game with multiple servers. I pay for multiple retainers because apparently the servers can't handle more free retainers. So I pay for additional space and now I have to pay 4$ more to be able to proper heal and dodge? No, that's not happening. It shouldn't have to happen to ANYONE. It's not just me. NO ONE should have to deal with that and it's garbage that, as big as SE is, this is a problem across the board.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I've played with 460 ping before, you have to play a class that is a caster for sprint, and learn boss rotations. Most bosses actually use their special abilities at set intervals. With titan ex, the time periods between tulmults, landslides and weights are around the same, so you eventually get the feel of it, and move before the aoe appears.

You may have to do a server move like I had to when EU Servers moved (this is what made me have 460 ping), to find a server with better ping.

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I was going to try a different server but the EU and JP servers are worse, around 500+ ping.
I know I can eventually train myself to deal with the new ping but after so long of being at one, it's like... ugh.
And especially at such a -drastic- increase out of the blue.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

I was going to try a different server but the EU and JP servers are worse, around 500+ ping.
I know I can eventually train myself to deal with the new ping but after so long of being at one, it's like... ugh.
And especially at such a -drastic- increase out of the blue.

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Have you tried any ping lowering program thingies like WTFast and Pingzapper? It might help
Before the server move, I had 260 to NA servers without pingzapper, to 180 with pingzapper.
Now with the server move, I have 180 without, and 160 with. There's free trials that you can use, if you want to try them, but not buy them

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

It IS an issue for everyone who has to PAY for an ADDITIONAL program to play a game with multiple servers. I pay for multiple retainers because apparently the servers can't handle more free retainers. So I pay for additional space and now I have to pay 4$ more to be able to proper heal and dodge? No, that's not happening. It shouldn't have to happen to ANYONE. It's not just me. NO ONE should have to deal with that and it's garbage that, as big as SE is, this is a problem across the board.

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You're missing the entire point.

The issue is actually on your side, not SE's.
The issue is YOUR problem.

You can't blame SE for a shonky ISP.
SE should not be expected to move the server next to your house, just because your ISP gives you issues.

In a perfect world, everyone would play the game with 0ms. However unfortunately the way the world works isn't all sunshine and rainbows and sometimes you have play with higher ping, or make compromises and invest more in doing something you enjoy than other people do.

Players have been enjoying this game in much worse situations than you're currently in. WITH pingzapper I was playing on your ping. Though I had no complaints. Not because I have a shonky / fixable issue (ISP) but I had a non-fixable issue (physical location in the world).

Your issue can be fixed. You should be happy that is the case - not raging that you can't be bothered to.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Guess raiding really is srs bsns.

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It's mostly just full of serious douchebags...

Eh, I just starting using Mudfish. It's an extra cost, but it's like 2 dollars for months of gameplay at a sub 100 ping again.

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Originally Posted by Onshinn

my traceroutes and ping, I'm not sure what to make of it...

https://twitter.com/ooini/status/864987136298242052

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The "ms" part means milliseconds. 163ms ping will not equal 3-5 whole seconds of lag (which would be 3000-5000ms ping), although spikes and packet loss could make things feel way worse than 163ms ping.

I did a little research yesterday, as someone playing from Germany.

German Network until NTT, I simmer at a Ping up to 48 ms.
NTT Frankfurt, the first node in the chain, until NTT Ashburn/Virginia (VA2), I get the usual 'to be expected' 100 ms bump, still playable, even if it makes Dual oGCD or Stance Dance tricky. Sitting at 135-140 ms.
From there, it goes to CA4 (not designated yet, but the hints point to San Jose, or, what NTT calls it on their website, Santa Clara), with another bump of 60 ms. And from there, it goes to CA2/Sacramento, staying in the 200-230 ms range.

It does make some classes questionable to play, at least with the mindset of 'clip GCD or aren't greedy as hell on some 3rd party tool's logfiles, better be slain with a spade iRL' that the NA community has.

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Originally Posted by TheLastDream

The move they made was the best move. Two thumbs up!

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How about no. Terrible move.

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Originally Posted by Conando

Eh, I just starting using Mudfish. It's an extra cost, but it's like 2 dollars for months of gameplay at a sub 100 ping again.

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Try Pingzapper. Mudfish is "reserved" bandwidth. Sure XIV deals data in kilobytes but it adds up fast.

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Originally Posted by Lesan

It does make some classes questionable to play

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It sounds to me more like some players just have to reassess what they can do. Their old super-optimal MAXIMUM DEEPS they used to pull was nice, but was never necessary for anything. Seems more like crying now that they have to be just very slightly less optimal, and now they can't feel superior to everyone they used to mock (or they have to find some other reason to feel superior to mock people).

(not suggesting you were among those, just your post was there, so I used it)

New Jersey. 97ms, up from 42.
Mudra are sticking in the middle of combat, and my DPS has suffered slightly since I need to slow down and make sure my Mudra actually activate in the order they're supposed to.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

It sounds to me more like some players just have to reassess what they can do. Their old super-optimal MAXIMUM DEEPS they used to pull was nice, but was never necessary for anything. Seems more like crying now that they have to be just very slightly less optimal, and now they can't feel superior to everyone they used to mock (or they have to find some other reason to feel superior to mock people).

(not suggesting you were among those, just your post was there, so I used it)

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I shouldn't have to pay more to get a game to always respond to what I do
I shouldn't have my enjoyment impacted by poor coding and a server move.

Just because you do not care, does not mean others do care and find it fun to just play like that, has nothing to do with mocking people.

Average of 23 (best overall was 16) now up to 105. I live in Montreal though, so that was kind of expected lol.

I get it, but, from the outside perspective, it just seems like one group got too used to life in the fast lane, and now that they're normal like the rest of us, the reaction is nearly comical. You took your low ping for granted, and now that you're down on our level, you're realizing just how good you had it.

Hard to sympathize when I never saw half as many voices calling for the rest of us to be raised up to your level. Where were you when we were the slow ones?

One thing to consider if you are having a higher ping is to do tracert to the server to see where the issue is. The issue could be somewhere between your home and the server and if so it may be a temporary issue with a specific network along the route.

I'm from Montreal and I barely notice a difference. I can still double weave no clip the same as before. Ping varying between 100MS and 120MS. Also I play on PS4.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

I get it, but, from the outside perspective, it just seems like one group got too used to life in the fast lane, and now that they're normal like the rest of us, the reaction is nearly comical. You took your low ping for granted, and now that you're down on our level, you're realizing just how good you had it.

Hard to sympathize when I never saw half as many voices calling for the rest of us to be raised up to your level. Where were you when we were the slow ones?

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However, just flipping the groups that get hell and that get paradise isn't the smartest choice either.

I'm from Missouri, and my ping went from about 60-70 pre-move to 40 now.