Dawntrail's MSQ story is a disaster and waste of potential. [full spoilers]

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Originally Posted by Coratanni

The problem though, is Wuk Lamat's solutions worked due to plot convenience from the writers because heaven forbid she failed. She didn't really learn anything. She's the same dumb character she was in the post EW msq.

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Sorry but she does learn. Just pay attantion to wat is said and read all.

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Originally Posted by sharplysurreal

the smile song is so bad dude what happened to ff14?

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The song is fine. The szene where it is played was poorly chosen.

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Originally Posted by sharplysurreal

the smile song is so bad dude what happened to ff14?

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The same thing that happened to every other media. Companies are enamored by the elusive modern audience, while completely disregarding the actual things which made their franchise popular in the first place; leading them to stumble and fumble their way into failure.

I hope that SE doesn't continue down this path now after they had their recent restructure, but my outlook is rather pessimistic.

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Originally Posted by All_Nonsense

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Zarool Ja's main problem is that he basically didn't exist outside of.... 2 cutscenes priors to Heritage Found. His whole "unite the world through war" rhetoric felt shoved in because they were so busy trying to cram as much main character-ness into Wuk Lamat that they forgot the primary antagonists need character development too. And then that was completely discarded for the "woe is me. my father didn't love me enough to give me the throne". as some last ditch effort to elicit some sympathy for a character who is somehow even more 2-Dimensional than Bakool Ja Ja.

For Wuk Lamat who is supposed to give a shit about her people, she made no efforts at all to try and reach out to her brother despite his problems. she goes from uncaring to angry, to sadmad.

He would have been so much more compelling if they had written him with a fervent desire to prove himself worthy of being the true ruler of Tural and having that devolve into near fanatical desperation as he falls farther and farther behind in the rite of succession, culminating in him turning to Sphene's advanced technology to seize the throne that he feels is rightfully his in exchange for allowing Sphene to harvest his people for their souls and life aether.

Playing through SoC, which has 3 siblings fighting for their kingdom, and boy are the characters done so much better in SoC, even if the translation is not good.

Dantalion will sacrifice everything for his people, even his own life. Lutfi strives for advancement because every other country is improving, and he wants his country to advance and keep up with them while also fighting to get out of his brother's shadow. Inanna is the naive sheltered princess who learns that the world is unforgiving and has to fight to keep her people safe because a kingdom is nothing without its people.

Compared to a blue lizard boy with daddy issues, siscon nerd brother, and Black-Hole Sue the siblings in that game are insane in characterization, even if you don't like them. They also don't take up 30 hours to get characterized.

You can also get them all killed, so yeah. If only we got to do that with Wuk Lamat and Koana. Watching those three fail, learn, and grow has been so amazing. We really needed similar characterization with DT. Matsuno was hyped to play SoC from what I saw.

https://i.imgur.com/LJUVmz1.jpeg

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Originally Posted by ViaDesperare

Playing through SoC, which has 3 siblings fighting for their kingdom, and boy are the characters done so much better in SoC, even if the translation is not good.

Dantalion will sacrifice everything for his people, even his own life. Lutfi strives for advancement because every other country is improving, and he wants his country to advance and keep up with them while also fighting to get out of his brother's shadow. Inanna is the naive sheltered princess who learns that the world is unforgiving and has to fight to keep her people safe because a kingdom is nothing without its people.

Compared to a blue lizard boy with daddy issues, siscon nerd brother, and Black-Hole Sue the siblings in that game are insane in characterization, even if you don't like them. They also don't take up 30 hours to get characterized.

You can also get them all killed, so yeah. If only we got to do that with Wuk Lamat and Koana. Watching those three fail, learn, and grow has been so amazing. We really needed similar characterization with DT. Matsuno was hyped to play SoC from what I saw.

https://i.imgur.com/LJUVmz1.jpeg

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SoC? Sorry - which game? Sounds like a SRPG, and I've been dying to get into a new one.

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Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog

SoC? Sorry - which game? Sounds like a SRPG, and I've been dying to get into a new one.

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Sword of Convallaria.

Good news: it's a SRPG.

Bad news: it's a gacha game.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Sword of Convallaria

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...huh. Free to Play? That's actuallly completely unexpected. Thanks, I'll have a look.

Edit : Oh. It's a Gacha. For fuck's sakes.

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Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog

...huh. Free to Play? That's actuallly completely unexpected. Thanks, I'll have a look.

Edit : Oh. It's a Gacha. For fuck's sakes.

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Banner of the Maid, Triangle Strategy, Unicorn Overlord are all fairly recent SRPG tittles that I can recommend for gameplay, characters, and story.

And they're just good old no string attached SP games. You do have to pay for them though.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Banner of the Maid, Triangle Strategy, Unicorn Overlord are all fairly recent SRPG tittles that I can recommend for gameplay, characters, and story.

And they're just good old no string attached SP games. You do have to pay for them though.

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I've already tried out UO, it was alright. Just waiting a sale on TS, looked a bit flawed.