Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Kallistra

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I'm not trying to stroke my own ego, but that run would have been even worse if I wasn't as experienced as I am as a healer. He almost died a couple of times but I saved him, all while still pumping out some DPS.

I even mentioned that they weren't using CDs and they said nothing and did nothing about it.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

And for the whole RDM raising before healer

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The first one to win the raising race is obviously the best healer! /s

But I won't lie. I do try to be the first to raise just so I can say "I did it first!" though. Especially if the other healer has a raise macro. >_>; Sometimes I can be petty.

Been Farming for gear to help our new FC rank up - Temple of the First - Running as a Red Mage - schollar and Palladin (or was it a warrior? bit of a blur) - the tank went balls to the wall pulling everything in sight...whats funny is at the end of the run before the final boss he didn't stop..just kept pulling and pulling and pulling...I snaged the chests for gear and knew he was gonna wipe the party out...sure enough..he did. Didn't say anything as I'd get myself in trouble if i did....mentor mode.

Scholar thought he/she messed up bad...apologized - tank meh'd...final boss fight came and went tank left....told the scholar tank was full of crap....he messed up...not you. Scholar was very relieved and appreciated the confidence boost/compliment. (I was the only Mentor in the group lol)

I hate tanks that do stupid things like that. >.>;

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

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The macro's for calling out raises are not meant to get attention for commendations...they are meant to inform the party that a raise is being attempted...and if your about to start one...you don't need too or should focus on someone else. As it tends to prevent early burn up's on swift casts.

However i'm starting to agree that as a Red Mage myself...we should be doing more [Ver]Raises over healers because they can use that mana for healing...and we don't necessarily need mana that often. Not to mention that dualcast helps.

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

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I never thought of that, it makes sense now that I think of it. But believe me, some are made for comms, they even ask for them in the macro text. Same for Mana Shift. I've also seen people who use the macro raise someone who had already gotten a raise but just didn't accept it (and you can see the icon easily without the macro too) just to get praised for it in place of the original resser.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

But I won't lie. I do try to be the first to raise just so I can say "I did it first!" though. Especially if the other healer has a raise macro. >_>; Sometimes I can be petty.

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My laziness is probably bigger than my ego on that xD

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

I never thought of that, it makes sense now that I think of it. But believe me, some are made for comms, they even ask for them in the macro text. Same for Mana Shift. I've also seen people who use the macro raise someone who had already gotten a raise but just didn't accept it (and you can see the icon easily without the macro too) just to get praised for it in place of the original resser.


My laziness is probably bigger than my ego on that xD

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I can believe that.... I been tempted to start macro'ing at least a FYI note:
"<my name> Shoving Mana down <t> throat. :)"
"<my name> Gets Duct Tape out and attempts to reattach body parts to <t>"

Or something to that effect..at least try to be funny about it lol.

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

I can believe that.... I been tempted to start macro'ing at least a FYI note:
"<my name> Shoving Mana down <t> throat. :)"
"<my name> Gets Duct Tape out and attempts to reattach body parts to <t>"

Or something to that effect..at least try to be funny about it lol.

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I've seen a bunch of funny ones, last one was "I'm not your boss so stop asking me for a raise".

I had a blm in a 60 dungeon, using a sharpened Anima weapon, whose rotation consisted mostly of blizzard 2 when nothing was nearby and fire 1.

Did a Rabanastre run yesterday and was told that I look "hella dumb as a WHM male Roe"..... Coming from the Lalafell tank.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Did a Rabanastre run yesterday and was told that I look "hella dumb as a WHM male Roe"..... Coming from the Lalafell tank.

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I love male Roe healers!

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Did a Rabanastre run yesterday and was told that I look "hella dumb as a WHM male Roe"..... Coming from the Lalafell tank.

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Reply: you'll think I look even worse when I crush you like a beer can. :D

Sorry...my snappy retort app must be stuck.

PS: Adamantoise rulz!

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

I love male Roe healers!

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I do as well, but they're incredibly rare, myself included. People are usually shocked when I join a duty and they see their healer is a male Roe. At this point, I get excited just seeing a male Roe caster. Since there aren't any restrictions with race/class, I'm not sure why some people feel like "Oh you're a big Roe guy, so you should be a tank or melee DPS".

Ugh.. Rant over.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Did a Rabanastre run yesterday and was told that I look "hella dumb as a WHM male Roe"..... Coming from the Lalafell tank.

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Sit on him. Male Roe healers are awesome!

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

I do as well, but they're incredibly rare, myself included. People are usually shocked when I join a duty and they see their healer is a male Roe. At this point, I get excited just seeing a male Roe caster. Since there aren't any restrictions with race/class, I'm not sure why some people feel like "Oh you're a big Roe guy, so you should be a tank or melee DPS".

Ugh.. Rant over.

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My Mentor is a Roe Healer - He scares people into healing themselves...just by smiling.

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Originally Posted by Tridus

Sit on him. Male Roe healers are awesome!

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One of my static healers is a male Roe and he's the most big adorable teddy bear.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Since there aren't any restrictions with race/class, I'm not sure why some people feel like "Oh you're a big Roe guy, so you should be a tank or melee DPS".

Ugh.. Rant over.

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While I haven't encountered this myself, that'd be like someone walking up to my female Miqo'te character and claming she shouldn't be a DRK or WAR. (Probably even PLD) Then go and claim she should only be a BRD or maybe a healer.

I don't get it either. Anyone can be any race and gender for their character along with whatever job they want to be as said character. I mean heck, there's even a male Roe spellcaster in the WAR questline...

So I say keep the Lala tanks and healer Roes coming!

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Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan

I can believe that.... I been tempted to start macro'ing at least a FYI note:
"<my name> Shoving Mana down <t> throat. :)"
"<my name> Gets Duct Tape out and attempts to reattach body parts to <t>"

Or something to that effect..at least try to be funny about it lol.

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My RDM raise macro says "<t>, what twisted mind said you could die?!"

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Was farming mentor roulette yesterday and got Garuda EX. Completely fresh run. There were 4 mentors total in the run. The DRK mentor explained the mechanics, and away we went. One shotted it. Definitely the smoothest synced EX run I've seen in a LONG time.

Another one I got was Ramuh EX, unfortunately, this one didn't succeed. But all three of us mentors stuck it out until the bitter end, helping people learn and practice the mechanics(only had one DPS leave the party the whole time...took almost 15-20min to get a replacement though). Hopefully those that were learning it can use that practice to get their clears.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

My RDM raise macro says "<t>, what twisted mind said you could die?!"

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Was farming mentor roulette yesterday and got Garuda EX. Completely fresh run. There were 4 mentors total in the run. The DRK mentor explained the mechanics, and away we went. One shotted it. Definitely the smoothest synced EX run I've seen in a LONG time.

Another one I got was Ramuh EX, unfortunately, this one didn't succeed. But all three of us mentors stuck it out until the bitter end, helping people learn and practice the mechanics(only had one DPS leave the party the whole time...took almost 15-20min to get a replacement though). Hopefully those that were learning it can use that practice to get their clears.

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Red Mage: "Give me a second *ruffles papers* yep I can re-spec points for raising <t>"

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

"don't like raise macros"

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I have to concur with the above response to you. I'm a healer and I have one - it's hugely helpful for all raisers to have them. It helps to prevent double casting and swathes of MP being wasted. If there's no raise macro then I have to constantly watch cast bars, which in the middle of a semi-wipe where multiple people need to be raised is the absolute last thing you want to be doing. It also helps with swiftcast management. If I see the other healer start hardcasting raise and I have a swift, I'll quickly swift and raise with my polite <se> macro so they know they can stop casting. Nine times out of ten they'll acknowledge the macro and stop. Raise takes a very long time and a lot of MP to cast, and the least time possible spent on it is better. Macros are a huge aid to how healers do their job.




And so commence-eth story ...

The other day I landed in Tam Tara with a bunch of newbie buds. I'm a confident healer so I encouraged the newbie tank to pull a COUPLE of groups at a time if he was comfortable to help him get used to tanking large groups for the future. He proceeded to pull absolutely everything up to the first boss which is nearing twenty mobs. I didn't touch my DPS skills, I was swiftcasting, lightspeeding, largressing, cure-bombing the utter bejeebus out of him, but once I was out of MP, the low DPS of the other buds had barely managed to kill ten of them and consequently we wiped.

I honestly wouldn't have minded, but for the following exchange:

I said, 'Lol, yeah, I said a couple, I didn't mean that much, you're still a level 19 tank with no job stone :D'
To which he replied, 'you don't DPS, you heal - you healer!!!'.

FFFFFFSDKFHS%%^&seAW!?!ESFE!!!!!!!

That's the last time I try to be helpful to newbie tanks.

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Originally Posted by Laurawrzz

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Its why my Au Ra White Mage threw her staff down and picked up a claymore (Dark Knight) and went psychotic. - Healer abuse is a real thing. :)

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Did a Rabanastre run yesterday and was told that I look "hella dumb as a WHM male Roe"..... Coming from the Lalafell tank.

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That popoto won't be laughing when he's dead cuz his "hella dumb" male Roe healer doesn't heal him up after a tank buster. :3

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Originally Posted by Tridus

Sit on him. Male Roe healers are awesome!

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Yes, they are! That lalafellin tank was remarkably unselfaware.

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My Mentor is a Roe Healer - He scares people into healing themselves...just by smiling.

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/laugh You're giving me ideas for my webcomic.

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Red Mage: "Give me a second *ruffles papers* yep I can re-spec points for raising <t>"

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/laugh I love that one!

I want to make one which states that I riffle through target's pockets for loose gil to cover target's funeral costs. But, I'm not certain how to write the macro. Any ideas, anyone?

Just had a PLD who apparently thinks Fractal HM is the Indy 500. He took off the instant the gate dropped at the start without waiting for Protect, and literally pulled everything wall to wall without waiting on me or the DPS to catch up. Not to mention he was in DPS stance the whole time until I ended up dying to the group of slimes & minotaur because he couldn't hold hate. Despite that, which almost turned into a wipe, he still took off without waiting for one of the DPS who also died. I told him to slow down a bit, and got no response. Even the DPS were telling him to slow down and he wouldn't. I noticed his title was God of the Hand. I can only assume was probably short on Creation tomes and was in an all-fire hurry to get more to make something for someone.

Note for that dungeon: DON'T pull multiple packs when there's a Chimera or Minotaur involved! You're asking for trouble once everybody starts getting paralyzed, knocked back, or dotted every 5 seconds. Its a recipe for a quick wipe, especially if multiple people get hit with the DoT. I don't care if you or your healer is overgeared to the teeth in melded 350+ gear, its not a good idea in this particular dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

I want to make one which states that I riffle through target's pockets for loose gil to cover target's funeral costs. But, I'm not certain how to write the macro. Any ideas, anyone?

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Something like...

/micon Raise
/p Don't mind me, <t> . Just riffling through your pockets for gil to cover your funeral. Or you could get up! <se.10>
/ac Swiftcast
/wait 2
/ac Raise

I am no macro genius though.

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Originally Posted by Driskus

*hurried tank*

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This would be a time I'd let them die until they smartened up, especially if they were asked by multiple people in the party. Some tanks think they're invincible, I swear, and forget that there's another person there with their own limitations keeping them on their feet.

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Originally Posted by Driskus

Note for that dungeon: DON'T pull multiple packs when there's a Chimera or Minotaur involved! You're asking for trouble once everybody starts getting paralyzed, knocked back, or dotted every 5 seconds. Its a recipe for a quick wipe, especially if multiple people get hit with the DoT. I don't care if you or your healer is overgeared to the teeth in melded 350+ gear, its not a good idea in this particular dungeon.

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It's really not that bad. Since this patch I've been running w/ a buddy of mine who alts healer and I'm pretty sure he's less than ilvl 330. We've been doing pulls to the wall on these new dungeons since they were released.

On the 2nd pull, which has 2 minotaurs and 2 chimeras, just focus any interrupts you have on dragon's voice, you can avoid the rest. If a dragon's voice goes off, tank may need to self heal/ pop an extra CD, but that's about it. Lots of time to recover after it goes off

RDM/PLD teams are really kinda OP.

I've leveled RDM on an alt and am now leveling it on my main and again today I wound up in a situation with a PLD where he and I duo'd a boss together. I did this once with a WAR too I think but a PLD makes it even easier.

We had a healer and DRG in Nevereap that hadn't ever been there before. They were both knocked off by the final boss's knockback ability. I Vercure'd us through it with an occasional Clemency when I was caught in a bad spot.

It's not the fastest way to finish a fight but still faster than wiping it seems.

Pet peeve: healers with really rude raise macros.Save that crap for statics.
Last Royal City after Hashmal, 90% of my chat log was one stupid macro to the effect of, "I'm not your mother, but obviously someone has to baby you, so quit crying and get up, <t>."
Same healer who burned LB3 while standing at the extreme edge of the arena when the dead melees were at the other end. It raised exactly one person - the BLM.

Just ran Shiva HM. PLD was new, kept shield oath despite the WAR MTing. Just as Shiva hits sword form the PLD rips agro. She turns around and cleaves all of us, MT and BRD are the only ones alive for the next 20 seconds. Politely ask PLD to move into Sword Oath for the next attempt and we clear. Before they leave, their parting words:
"lol idk how two tanks stance make a diff"

I'd have been happy to explain but they bailed after that, non-the-wiser for the experience.

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Originally Posted by ChloeGrace

Pet peeve: healers with really rude raise macros.Save that crap for statics.
Last Royal City after Hashmal, 90% of my chat log was one stupid macro to the effect of, "I'm not your mother, but obviously someone has to baby you, so quit crying and get up, <t>."
Same healer who burned LB3 while standing at the extreme edge of the arena when the dead melees were at the other end. It raised exactly one person - the BLM.

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Stuff like this is what turned me off of using Raise macros of any kind. Even "funny" ones can be upsetting if the player in question is getting a raw deal that instance.

I was just in a four-man dungeon where the tank used Shirk onto the dragoon. Twice.

You're the tank. It's your job.

What the hey.

I just had the worst LotA run I've ever had and there weren't even any wipes. I'll let the chat logs speak for themselves and just preface with a few things.

It hadn't been a particularly chatty run. During the Atmos fight A seemed to be struggling and I said in Alliance "You okay A?" right as they killed their add. Jokes were made, someone from A (I think) said "Moro is Canadian!" which I lolled at because Tridus would certainly giggle at the mere thought.

The healers were a pair from Jenova with the same last name. They doted on each other at the start of the instance. They also seemed to have some struggles, I was manashifting the WHM pretty consistantly. She liked Medica II even when it was already ticking. After they pulled us out of a potentially bad spot I said "Nice healing guys! <3" in party chat and that's where our story picks up...

I'm not the best at editing/cropping these things. I cropped out a bit of text but with context you can more or less get the gist of it. I also blocked out when I said the f word because profanity filters wont work on an image. The one healer is red, the other is blue and the yellow is innocent bystanders in the party. Also I know I used 2 different reds, as I said I'm not the best at this >.>

https://i.imgur.com/3ycJkau.png

https://i.imgur.com/ihpDikS.png

At the end of the day I got 4 commends as a dps in a 24man which isn't bad, not that I have any use for more commends but still. I guess I just wanted to say like... Why so bitter? There are certainly times on these forums that I've been... ahem... abrupt enough to warrant some harsh words in return but if this is what I get for trying to be nice to what I imagined were just new, struggling players... Why?

I dunno. I was mad enough to write all this, I suppose I shouldn't have give them that much time. Let's see if that report comes through though, god knows I've got chat logs to defend myself. Lol.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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Wow...... I'm sorry you went through that o.O. It always seems to be 24 man raids.... Any time I've ever seen a huge argument or super cancerous people, it's always in the 24 man raids. Don't know what it is about them, but it seems to bring out the worst in people.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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Wow. Take solace in the fact that they must be miserable people in real life, and that you're a much happier and nicer person than they apparently have the capacity to be.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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I'm the same way. I'm generally super nice in chat unless I'm particularly pissed off by something. I haven't yet run into anyone annoyed by it, but I have had a few people be confused (like I sometimes say "gj everyone" after a boss if I feel we did particularly well and some people find that weird).

It's actually kind of hilarious though. Them turning into assholes and you defending yourself probably granted you more comms than if they had just left you alone.

Gods above, please help me because I feel like reaching through the net and smacking a bard in the face. So, leveling Monk and in Siren Song Sea. Party setup is Warrior, Scholar, Monk (me) and Bard. Tank is doing double pulls, which is going okay, but kinda slow. Now, I know my Monk isn't outfitted in full shire, but this was still taking painfully long. I notice the Bard's TP bar is hardly budging. Meanwhile the Tank and I are starting to bottom out, but I've got Goad to keep the Warrior happy.

But this Bard... This tunnel visioned Hero never once used Tactician. Only AoE they pulled out was Rain of Death, while not having DoTs on enemies. Not a single QN came from this bard. You have AoE, why do you not use iiiiiiiitttt! We wiped on that large pull right after the second boss because Brd wasn't helping with AoE and the Scholar was using Psysick instead of the other healing tools. The tank was on point, though. So at least that was good.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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But... all you did was complement them!

Learn something new every day I guess. People can apparently get triggered from recieving complements. I'm sorry that you had to endure that. I've had quite a few questionable runs of 24 mans myself, but I've yet to have anyone blow up on me like that just for getting a complement. o.O

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Just ran Shiva HM.

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I had a similar experience yesterdaym which is weird since I've never seen a Shiva wipe before. Except nobody said a thing, someone asked how we died but nobody answered (I wasn't sure myself, though I suspected). Luckily next time all went well, nobody dropped.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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Sorry you had that,people can be very very salty.
I got an horrible experience yesterday trying Byakko normal for the first time.
I didn't wanna go as healer but my RDM isn't geared enough for it yet, and since everybody says how fun that fight is...well it was ugly. Even though I had watched a guide, I still died a bunch of times. There also were other new people (we all arned we were new at the start) so ofc the fight wasn't smooth. First death, the other healer calls me idiot. Ok..At the end of the fight same healer says "You're welcome for the carry" and "never do extreme" after somebody else says "lol I wanna see how you guys do with extreme". Yes, I had trouble staying alive, ressing people, healing almost dying people, but I'd hardly call it a carry, everybody pulled their weight (and I think I healed more than her too). Why all the saltiness? Not only I didn't find it easy as people say, I found it harder than any other HM primal, probably because half of the group or more was new to it..and I find it superhard dodging the balls while you're in the tornado thing. Anyway, it all was ugly enough to put me off ever redoing that fight again.

Conversely, in Hell's Lid, horrible tank, he keeps running forward and getting too many groups while not getting threat on them, so both dpsers and me keep taking a lot of dmg. At some point he leaves the big snake behind on the dps while going so far that he's out of range..so dpses stop to kill it and I to heal them, to which tank dies. At that point the tank starts cursing against the dps, saying like "stop doing dmg while I'm pulling" which would make sense except he can't keep his aggro even after he pulled, in fact in that moment I die, while staying next to him with an add on myself, waiting for him to take it, while absolutely not being high in threat order. He just couldn't bother. In fact the dps told him "it's you who can't keep your aggro" just as I was dying so I said "Just like now"- He went on with more insults culminating in "I hope you die", and I'm sure he didn't mean in game. Good thing there's vote kick.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

/laugh You're giving me ideas for my webcomic.

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Ran my Expert and 70 roulettes with my secondary girl yesterday. Both went very well, and I had male Elezen tanks~ I love male elezen~

But I digress. Both Hells lid and Kugane castle went perfectly.

Then today I was working on the same characters crafters, and BOOM. I run past my awesome tank from Kugane Castle. Small world. I had to stop and chat with him, and we did chat, and now we're friends ^^-

I love running into people from roulettes again ♥

In defense of being bad in a random party: Sometimes when I'm spam running leveling roulette for cracked clusters, I'll get so used to being locked out of my awesome level 70 toolkit, that I'll forget that I have certain moves that can make my healer's life easier. I'm sorry rage-quitting healer for that Kugane castle wipe! Blame me if you must, but please know that before I got there, I did two sastasha's and a Halatali beforehand, and I simply forgot that Defiance and steel cyclone exist! Yes, I got you all killed, but, in a way, I'm the real victim here! I was literally conditioned to fail! The system was stacked against me!