Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

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Originally Posted by RosaLunaCelestia

Sephiroth's hair from ff vii should be fine for male ;)

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A little less polygonal, maybe.

Fran's ponytail would be nice.

In all honestly, Id prefer modifications of the current races over a new race. When you look at the races, and take out the ears/face section, they almost all pretty much fit the same mold slender, no adjustable proportions, flat butt...the only one that is outside of this is the Roe, but then you need to accept a huge hulking thing....again, with a flat butt. Lala's are cool, but again, no adjustable proportions...they are all an upside-down tub with arms and legs attached.

Not to mention you pretty much have 4 options for each facial feature. Which does almost nil to change the look. on a few models, I can't even tell if changing the jaw options does anything!

Id prefer to see adjustable proportions. What If I want an older, slightly tubby mage? One that actually looks old...every face model outside the Roe (again) looks like it's 14 years old. I want real old looking old people. And I want to be able to make a lalafalel that has muscles he can flex. I want my little lala tank to look like a tank, with a big hairy beard. Not the dainty crud they have for almost every class.

We need sliders and more options in customization far much more then we need a new race. It's about time FFXIV caught up with other MMO's and gave us more in that field. Why do we need another slender/skinny model with almost no shape that has a different set of ears? or if it has a shape, that's the only one you get. Primitive.

Example: BDO. Now, I don't want that degree of customization, but holy smokes! if they can do that with a game that involved, we can do it here.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

A little less polygonal, maybe.

Fran's ponytail would be nice.

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Fran's ponytail on males would be nice ? I guess . I cant see how it would looks like if it happen. Need a drawing to see .
But i would like her hair style 4 female (^v^)

Yes please veira and lupine races pls do it now se

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Originally Posted by Temjiu

slider snip

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While I certainly wouldn't mind a few more slider options in character creation I would like it to happen only after they've added a few more races. Otherwise adding new races would become far harder and more easily delayed and denied.

Hell no. We dont need more pervy weabs ruining yet another game.

Male and female veira better come with heels.

As much as the heel thing annoys me since it is very clearly a "Sex bunny" thing regardless of what lore says, I would roll one because MAN did they OWN in FFTA and FFTA2.

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Originally Posted by HyperSMB

As much as the heel thing annoys me since it is very clearly a "Sex bunny" thing regardless of what lore says, I would roll one because MAN did they OWN is FFTA and FFTA2.

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Whole team of Assassins with greatbows and Ultima move? Yasssss.

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Originally Posted by Temjiu

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I'm down for more character customization and viera.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Whole team of Assassins with greatbows and Ultima move? Yasssss.

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Kain's Lance was also extremely dirty if you hit your own Viera down to 1 health intentionally...(Might be the name, hard to recall. It was a move that dealt the health you were missing to an enemy bypassing defenses)

God they were so busted.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

A little less polygonal, maybe.

Fran's ponytail would be nice.

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I'd be interested to see how they'd implement that type of hairstyle.

If we keep that pony tail a little bit away from the character's back, it'd help with clipping.
I drew a quick thing on ms paint to illustrate
https://i.gyazo.com/d722bbd5fdf1b9d3...c22be0502e.png

I can sort of see them using the horse tail texture for Fran's hairstyle as well.
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...604838ae8a.jpg

I join. Bunnies and Kitties should rule the world.

:-D

I would cry with joy if we got Fran's hairstyle with a Viera race! I wouldn't change it for years! 8'3

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Originally Posted by syunikiss

Male and female veira better come with heels.

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They will most likely have digitigrade feet or something, so they'll probably have unique shoes/heels.

Hellluuuuuu

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Originally Posted by Senn

If we keep that pony tail a little bit away from the character's back, it'd help with clipping.
I drew a quick thing on ms paint to illustrate
https://i.gyazo.com/d722bbd5fdf1b9d3...c22be0502e.png
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Yes! Exactly!

It would a perfect race exclusive style, too, since every race has a unique ponytail for the girls.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

Yes! Exactly!

It would a perfect race exclusive style, too, since every race has a unique ponytail for the girls.

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I wouldn't mind if all races had access to this hair personally, but I also wouldn't be too bothered if it was exclusive only to the viera race either.

+1 Support

Forums need a downvote or thumbs down system so we could see how many forum-goers don't want Viera too. Like myself.

WE NEED VIERA. GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMME! OR I WILL NUKE EORZEA ONCE MORE!I need my Viera retainer slave~

Viera is still by far the most request race in game regardless of people saying is not to make themselves feel better (which is only the odd 3 or 4 that no one listen to them)

I'm not holding my breath for Viera to be introduced soonish .. BUT but! Return to Ivalice would be the perfect way to introduce the race into the game. Specially having XII out right now.

The timings of FFXII and The new 24 man raid seems too fishy.

Are we gonna see familiar faces? Are we gonna see Viera like Fran?

Can honestly not wait for return to ivalice info.

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Originally Posted by Mature

I'm not holding my breath for Viera to be introduced soonish .. BUT but! Return to Ivalice would be the perfect way to introduce the race into the game. Specially having XII out right now.

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No, it can't and this isn't just me being anti-Viera. Think about it, how can someone who is just starting the game start as a Viera when the Ivalice raid technically doesn't "start" until after you beat the Stormblood storyline. The only way for Viera to be playable is if they already exist on Hydaelyn and to not make their sudden appearance to Eorzea jarring, SE would need to make them start in their own city/village/town (up until the Airship envoy quest maybe) and then have them go to Eorzea.

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

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See, that's the nail on the head. Nobody thought Au'Ra strange in the least (while it was very strange for me playing an Au'Ra to meet Yugiri for the first time and have her introduce you to the concept of their race). So why would Viera be any different? As long as their introduction to the story as a whole is smoothly done that is. I agree that if the Viera were not native to Hydaelyn prior to the events of Stormblood then some shenanigans would have to happen and nobody likes splitting the timeline, but is there any reason they cannot come from somewhere we haven't explored yet? We've only seen two of the continents, there are likely more out there and I would hope they come from one of them.

I do agree though, having a few more lines of written dialog about people thinking that the Au'Ra or any other race that comes in would be nice to see in the ARR content at least. But it's not quite the straw that breaks the camel's back unless the race themselves is introduced in a way that makes them impossible to help with the events of prior expansions.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

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Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

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Originally Posted by Mature

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

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The only problem with Viera being introduced with Return to Ivalice is where it falls in the timeline. Yugiri introducing the Au'ra was less of an issue because it happened in ARR, even less of an issue because Doma was a confirmed place on the map. If Ivalice suddenly pops into reality because of the events of Stormblood and Viera were not native to Hydaelyn prior to that happening...that's an issue. Because that means either you'd either need to put the Viera behind the MSQ and not allow you you Fantasia into one until you've completed the quests, or you have to alter the timeline so that Ivalice appearing threw the Viera backwards in time.

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Originally Posted by Mature

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

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Another problem is side-quests (of which Return to Ivalice will be counted as one) can't influence shenanigans of the main scenario too much. A slight nod happened to it surrounding the Coils in the Main Scenario, but I think that's the only way they could tap into side-quests. Else, after a point you'd have to make Return to Ivalice be required to continue with the story if the Viera are so deeply tied to it. This is why I'm worried. It's probably be easier for SE to introduce them as a beast tribe, canonically, but if they do that, then Viera can't be a playable race due to precedents already set lore-wise that beast tribes cannot be a Warrior of Light.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

It's probably be easier for SE to introduce them as a beast tribe, canonically, but if they do that, then Viera can't be a playable race due to precedents already set lore-wise that beast tribes cannot be a Warrior of Light.

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Or they could come from a far off land we have yet to travel to that has been cut off by a Garlean blockade they are only now starting to run in any great numbers. There are ways to work them into the story with plenty of foreshadowing and wiggle room for what's to come. Also it is called Return to Ivalice...I guess if they really wanted to do the shenanigans I was talking about earlier this may not be the first time Hydaelyn and Ivalice have touched before. Honestly, even if they are a beast race I'd be okay. A lot of the reason I love Viera isn't so much the race themselves but the classes they could be in FFTA.

Elementalist for life.

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Originally Posted by Mature

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

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Yugiri came from Doma, which exists on Othard, which has always existed on Hydaelyn and as we all know (especially now), Au Ra are natives to that region (and Mide is her own ancestor). You can't compare Othard to Ivalice, unless Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn (and if that were the case, would you not prefer it to be an expansion zone and not a raid?) and if it does... then why have we not seen any Viera (or any other Ivalice race, for that matter) in Stormblood? Othard is home to Dalmasca/Rabanastre, is it not?

It would be better to introduce Viera as a race (named differently) that has always existed on Hydaelyn and have them be from a land that has little to no lore on it (The New World, to the west of Eorzea) AND as I said before, have them start in their own city/town/village so their Eorzea introduction feels natural and not... awkward (Au Ra).

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Yugiri came from Doma, which exists on Othard, which has always existed on Hydaelyn and as we all know (especially now), Au Ra are natives to that region (and Mide is her own ancestor). You can't compare Othard to Ivalice, unless Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn (and if that were the case, would you not prefer it to be an expansion zone and not a raid?) and if it does... then why have we not seen any Viera (or any other Ivalice race, for that matter) in Stormblood? Othard is home to Dalmasca/Rabanastre, is it not?

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Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived

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Originally Posted by Felis

Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived

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So... we aren't getting Viera because they died out completely in the 2nd astral era?

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Originally Posted by Felis

Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived

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And that of course implies that XII's and Tactics' Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn, when we know that's not the case at all (that might change with the Ivalice raid, but then we just go back to my main argument on how you can't make a race playable when they technically don't exist on the planet itself yet).

Yoshida:

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I don't think you should give up hope. I mean we're hoping Final Fantasy XIV will have a very long lifespan. With that being said. Fran and the Viera race have a very high heel and trying to depict that in Final Fantasy XIV is challenging. They won't be able to wear any shoes that exist in Eorzea right now.

https://www.finder.com.au/final-fantasy-xiv-stormblood-viera

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It's not if they can exist but when.

I've always liked Viera and I would welcome them in the game, so I hope they get added in the future, both of the concept art that OP posted are awesome to me, but my favorite is the second one, since it kinda makes a "unique" approach to the race, they also have normal feet/hands on that one, so that could resolve the issue of the long fingers and high heels of the Viera.

If I have to choose out of the concept arts I will deffo go for the first one not the second one. I wouldn't like Cute Viera. Fran a like

Please please add this race... Just yes... the first art in OP is awesome and I'd pay for this

Who else is hoping to see a Veira within Return to Ivalice as forshadowing the way Yugiri was?

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

Who else is hoping to see a Veira within Return to Ivalice as forshadowing the way Yugiri was?

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Depends on whether the Ivalice we're going to is the very same Ivalice from Tactics Advance and XII (in which case it'll have more than one Ivalice race), or a rewritten Ivalice to fit FFXIV's lore. If it's the latter, then who knows (might just end up being XIV races). If it's the former, then it can't be possible.

Yugiri came from a foreign land off to the east that already exists on Hydaelyn. If Viera come from the Tactics Advance and XII Ivalice, which will not exist on Hydaelyn until 4.1, then it won't make sense. How can a race exist on Hydaelyn (beginning of the ARR story), when they technically shouldn't even be on Hydaelyn up until a certain part of the story (after The Royal Menagerie)?

I'd rather more customization for the current races than a new one.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Depends on whether the Ivalice we're going to is the very same Ivalice from Tactics Advance and XII (in which case it'll have more than one Ivalice race), or a rewritten Ivalice to fit FFXIV's lore. If it's the latter, then who knows (might just end up being XIV races). If it's the former, then it can't be possible.

Yugiri came from a foreign land off to the east that already exists on Hydaelyn. If Viera come from the Tactics Advance and XII Ivalice, which will not exist on Hydaelyn until 4.1, then it won't make sense. How can a race exist on Hydaelyn (beginning of the ARR story), when they technically shouldn't even be on Hydaelyn up until a certain part of the story (after The Royal Menagerie)?

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AuRa don't even make sense in 2.0 content.... Its not hard to write in rational if the devs really want to though. I don't see the point personally.