[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.

my pings gotten to the point where i am getting hit from AOES i used to dodge, got to get the feel for this new ping, but its small, like possibly 0.2/0.3 seconds its noticible but i can adapt to it.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

Unfortunately that person doesn't quite know what they're talking about. It's possible that NTT could improve their internal routing in the future, but the location of the datacenters is set in stone now. The Colorado address you're seeing is a business address that NTT America's IP's are registered to, but is not where they're being used. This is abundantly clear if you simply look at their website:

http://www.us.ntt.com/en/services/da...center/us.html

They are not running a Colorado datacenter. They have facilities in California, Virginia, and Texas. No matter what conspiracies you want to entertain, even if you want to ignore the fact that the route terminates right after a clearly-labeled "sacramento, ca" hop, the fact is that the low pings northwest players are getting now would not even be possible if it were in Virginia or Texas no matter how good the routing was. You're being asked to believe the Earth might be flat.

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Insulting people doesn't help your accuracy.

What I stated about routing tables is correct, it's a matter of fact that routing tables are dynamic by design and continue to optimize where possible. I made no statement about any specific data center location, deferring to better information should SE release it. NTT improving their internal routing is one thing, but routing into NTT can optimize regardless of what NTT do internally.

My wife is playing this game on a PS4 Pro with a SSD.

Her healing on AST went from GCD and close to it to laggy enough to die in about any AoE.

Why did you move the servers to a coastal location instead of a central location??

This decision was poorly made. Shut it down and fix it.

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Originally Posted by Unscene

cmd tells me 176, game tells me 2k+. I don't know what to believe anymore.

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Game cannot show your IP. Game have not ping monitor. The thing that tells you 2000 is the number of packages sent/received.

I still don't understand why not add ping here too. Much more comfortable than using CMD, and also useful for pS4 players. The package thing is useless with out he ping monitor.

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Originally Posted by WistariaEyes

However, my SO is in the US and if I make him move to EU he wouldn't get to enjoy the game. (he tested it and got around 250-300 ms on EU server). And if I stay then I would be the one who wouldn't get to enjoy the game.
We both preordered Stormblood and have been excited to play together. Now I honestly don't know what to do and it's killing me inside that things went the way they did.

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I can feel your pain. After my XI friends stopped playing XIV i thought about switching servers. I started to buy resellable stuff. Then i found new friends in my current FC and i really feel "home". Of course they are all americans.


Now it feels like i have to decide between the love for final fantasy or the love for these ppl. That is just not right. I should not be in the position where i have to chose between friends and ping. And right now i think that i would rather quit the game. It is heartbreaking :(

If SE would make cross server friendships (across all data centers) and allow us to play everything together, not just cross server dungeons.. Just like Blizzard did with WoW. You can be on 3 different servers with 4 ppl and you can still play together what ever content you want.

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Originally Posted by MuseTraveller

EU player from Eastern Europe reporting, perfectly playable with 220ping :) I did Zurvan Ex as test (DPS) and everything was dodged as per normal. Healed through Dun Scaith, felt no difference. I could feel very small delay with spamming skills, I imagine DPS feels it most. I agree it is likely extremely frustrating for hard core raiders or those aiming for world's first where everything is optimized as best as possible. The rest however, I see no reason to panic and distress. If your friends matter more, stay on the NA center. If the mild delay in responses bothers you move if you have the option to.

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That's good for you. I'm close to Eastern Europe, with a new ping of 200 and the delay is horrible. I get hit by something I dodged about 2 seconds ago, my abilities don't go off properly, I tested it in Dun Scaith and died to things I didn't even get a chance to react to...

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Originally Posted by Esrain

Thank you Square Enix, my ping is a lot better now after the move, it went from 320ms to 220ms. Please don't ever move it anywhere near the east coast again.

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Are you even from North America?

If not, your voice on where servers designated from a region you're not even a part of counts for nothing. Be thankful that you have the privilege to even play on them.

How about no.

Right away, sire. Reimbursement for failing to consult your opinion will be forthcoming.

My ping is 32. So smooth

I love how the west coast players immediately try to make fun of people who are legit having issues. The entitlement is real.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Sorry OP but this is what I considered unplayable:

http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

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It was me when EU was in NA location. Needless to say, I always were turned down by "stop making excuses", "noob bard", "git gut" and other phrases I cannot report here to avoid indecency. Thanks to all of them, I learnt to make only my own business when in a duty and pretty ignore every and all comments coming from the party chat.

normies get out

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Originally Posted by Aronys

That's good for you. I'm close to Eastern Europe, with a new ping of 200 and the delay is horrible. I get hit by something I dodged about 2 seconds ago, my abilities don't go off properly, I tested it in Dun Scaith and died to things I didn't even get a chance to react to...

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Fellow European, I'm so sorry :( I've practiced these instances a lot with 160-180 ping and for the most part could move in time even with 220. There have been moments of - I can sneak one more attack, and I got hit even if out of AoE zone but that was what happened to me with the old ping as well. I understand your frustrations but beyond learning the fights very well and moving in advance, there is little one can do in our case. :(
The ping was more noticeable to me as BRD than WHM.

Your wife is so slow she almost let people die? I don't think you should be blaming the server for her being slow, tell her to get faster with her pressing of buttons before you blame other people.

You heard the man, shut it down, shut it all down

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-06-2016/fzp8PZ.gif

But how are we supposed to know where that next aoe will be placed MuseTraveller? We are no fortunetellers, right?

People is having real problems and this affects people on the west coast, JP and EU as well, since this can make people leave FFXIV and we don't want that, so there's no need to make fun of them because who knows, maybe you will have the same problem one day, and you wouldn't want people to laugh at you in that case, but help you instead. So be more respectful with people who is having legit ping problems, stop acting that low.


Give it a week until servers get stable, hopefully ping will get better. If not, then you guys should continue showing SE how bad was their decision until they do something!

/cheer

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Originally Posted by Aronys

I love how the west coast players immediately try to make fun of people who are legit having issues. The entitlement is real.

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No,we're just annoyed/perplexed by all the "my old ping of 30 is now 90 which makes the game unplayable" statements when that's what us west coasters had for years without issue. NA players who are getting pings higher than 150 is most likely due to a less than average ISP and not the location. An decently average connection will net pings of 100ish even from the other coast. Not everyone has access to or can afford a decent connection , though, so I feel for people in that situation. Case in point, when 2.0 first launched, I could only afford the budget low speed package with my isp and I had 175 ping to Montreal from Vancouver. It resulted in me taking a break from the game because I was having a hard time completing end game content. When I upgraded to my provider's standard average connection a couple of years later I got a much better 90 ping.

Some regions, like South America, do appear to have significant increases to already relatively high pings due to out of the way routing, but even that's something that is not entirely out of the realm of expectation. Connecting to an international server is not likely to be speedy regardless of location. There are even some international regions without native server locations that got an increase. I believe some oceanic players are experiencing this for example.

Dream scenario would be to split the data centers between east and west and let those in the middle pick which ever of the two is best for them.

But yeah, the developers suck for this.

That is true and I suppose it depends. I've managed to outrun regular AoEs like usual but for example the AoE the queen in Dun Scaith does right after jump? I already know she will do one so I move before she even jumps and if I'm near the jump area, I move asap before the AoE even appears. I fully agree faster flashing AoEs and savage content would be a problem but still doable. Definitely frustrating and agitating when you die to mechanics you know just cause you reacted a second too late, but if you are not doing any of this and raid more on the casual side - just doing ex primals, you should be fine with 220~ ping. I by no means want to minimlaize the situation. I too hoped it won't be California and I too was biting my nails anticipating to test the horror when I scored whooping 220ms on ping check. I just want to stress, one can adapt to this increase.

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

Please people, do not brag about the one time u got orange percentile under echo in Creator with the rest of your non-echo percentiles in blue like we can't look up the percentiles in a new tab. Then the nerve to talk about mediocre performance. Stop. This argument actually hurts you more than helps.

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There are multiple contributing factors to my pre-echo mediocre blues but that's not what this topic is about. I simply stopped using my high ping as an excuse for my own mediocre play--something that I did for a long time.

But I do know the frustration of watching the GCD end while still stuck in the oGCD animation. It's just something some people have been dealing with even before the move. I also understand how annoying this will be for the 1% speed killers and world proggers coz even a mediocre player like me can feel the change in ping and how it messes up CD timings and stuff.

I am pretty ambivalent with this matter coz on one hand my ping got lower while on the other I have friends who are now unable to double weave and some might even have to transfer out of the NA servers. What I do find amusing though are those who are not part of the 1% or don't even raid at all even casually but still say that the game is unplayable now with 100 ms ping.

Those people with 100ping or way lesser... making FUN of people that suffer from the new server location are such imbecile's! >.>
Dont these 'spoiled' brats has nothing to do than being afk on there 40ms and posting crap on forums?! o___O

If THEY had the same problems they would be mad and making threads too!

Move to a better server or move to a place with better routing.

Thing is people have 100-200 ping thinking its ok for some reason. Most if not all of them are the bad players thst never do anything but dungons.

Idk...UK player in my FC is healing just fine...

I love the new crutch people all of a sudden discovered.

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Originally Posted by Nerisu

I am pretty ambivalent with this matter coz on one hand my ping got lower while on the other I have friends who are now unable to double weave and some might even have to transfer out of the NA servers. What I do find amusing though are those who are not part of the 1% or don't even raid at all even casually but still say that the game is unplayable now with 100 ms ping.

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That's pretty much what I'm taking away from this too. The server move screwed over some of my friends' rotations, and I am highly sympathetic to people in their type of situation. On the other hand, I've noted so far that I can now do my opener as a Bard without needing to use Feint to double-weave two oGCDs before the buffs fall off. The way you see most people play though, this server move won't make a difference at all, unless everyone is suddenly an armchair raider.

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Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX

Thing is people have 100-200 ping thinking its ok for some reason. Most if not all of them are the bad players thst never do anything but dungons.

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I average 180 ping after the move and I'm perfectly fine with it because I honestly can't tell the difference with how it was before. It's also a really stupid assumption to say that people with high ping are bad players. You don't know that.

Hmm. Here I was thinking I jumped the gun in moving to Chaos so soon cause of raid scheduling, but it looks like I was right on the ball. Haven't been on in a while but it'll be hilarious if I get better ping on Chaos than on Aether

As an addendum to my post yesterday, I average 180 ping at the moment and I honestly can't tell the difference with how it was before, aside from *maybe* a slight delay on gathering.

And yes, I am an EU player.

I average 200 and I now get hit by things I used to be able to dodge easy because on my screen I'm out and miles away from it, but the latency is so bad that I get hit up to 2 seconds after the attack goes out.

I don't think servers are the issue. I think people just want to have something to complain about.

As a PS4 Im greatly affected by the server move. My character has the "under water" affect. It runs and move a couple of seconds after executing the command. Certain actions as a Bard are confusing when it comes to BL etc. Another way to find out if you have a laggy character is at cacpot, if I scratch the circles to reveal the numbers it takes a couple of second to reveal the figure. Another way to notice this lag is by going to the MB browse for something and once u done , the arrow mark will stay on the MB for a couple of seconds once u have moved​ away. It's not ideal and the game doesn't feel the same.

A pc player got all sorts of ways to try to fix their ping. My question is are there a ways for PS4 players to reduce lag or ping at all?

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Not an isp issue if a large amount of the population sees the problem on different isps on different distances, etc. All I see here is the few people commenting simply does not see the delays. It is very annoying. The support desk and FC chest is still ungodly slow too. A

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It is a ISP issue tbh. My boyfriend and I live in the same city with different ISPs. Before move, FFXIV was nearly unplayable for me with 75 ms because Spectrum loves to route through the Level 3 bottleneck and cause major packet loss. Meanwhile on his end with a different isp, he has similar ping but zero packet loss. After move, he sees a uptick in ping to 100ms but he sees no change and still has zero input lag. He has always even now can load into zones in 2 seconds and experiences zero screw-ups with combos related to input lag. Meanwhile, I now experience zero packet loss but very little difference in ping (decrease to 65-68) but am finally able to not screw up my cooldowns and combos. For the longest time he thought I was making up how as Black mage main my ice abilities would never restore my mana without a good 6 second delay but he believes me now after seeing how much smoother I can play. Loading in after logging in is now instant. Something which he continues to experience despite the move and ping increase.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Insulting people doesn't help your accuracy.

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It's not an insult to warn people away from misinformation about "maybe they aren't really in California." As for being able to fix routing issues regardless of NTT, that's not entirely true either because of the following: NTT is not advertising that prefix externally. That means only NTT's internal routing knows how to reach it. Instead, NTT only advertises the much broader address space of 204.0.0.0/14. Assignments within that space are being used in geographically disparate locations. In order for this to work, routing to an address in that space simply tries to find the best way to get you onto NTT's network as close to you as possible. For me, this is in NYC. From there, NTT's network is responsible for getting me all the way to California.

The only thing outside of NTT's power is improving routing up to the point where you get on NTT's network. If this is where someone's issue is, then sure that can be fixed without NTT. But if your issue is in how NTT is routing you internally, then no that won't get fixed without them, and the only other recourse is to use VPN services to forcibly change where you get on their network.

None of that is to suggest a doom and gloom scenario, though. It's quite possible that things will improve for some people. There isn't really much that can be done for Europeans or South Americans, though, considering even ideal routing is going to get them fairly high latency to this location.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I don't think servers are the issue. I think people just want to have something to complain about.

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Originally Posted by Aronys

I average 200 and I now get hit by things I used to be able to dodge easy because on my screen I'm out and miles away from it, but the latency is so bad that I get hit up to 2 seconds after the attack goes out.

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You're clearly just imagining things, Aronys.

Sorry, slightly confused and just want to clarify: You're saying, for example, you press the analog stick to the left and it has a delay between when you pushed it and when the character moves to the left? If so that's a client-side problem, ping doesn't affect that. I'm not actually sure how you improve your ping on PS4, I remember reading somewhere that you could set up a VPN on your router but that's the only vague information I know. Hope you can sort out your problem!

Wireless connection? No ps4 only supports the slower speeds. You would have to upgrade to ps4 pro or go wired.

Thanks to the server move to improve stability and traffic to the game, has created mixed opinions.

People has seen their latency reduce , some have seen their latency increase. (As you probably expected and tested to begin with)I think the most affected ones were EU players. When chaos data was transferred​ to EU side you were given NA players the option to transfer out for free to a NA server for free due to the fact they were gonna be the ones who were gonna suffer the most in latency being moved further away to benefit others (EU players) now the issue arrising is the other way round.

Could we , EU players get given the chance to a transfer to a EU server for free with no gil or any kind of restrictions at all?

Some of us would like to get ready for stormblood before rather than after the expansion is launched

Thanks

If you're referring to how PC players use VPNs to improve their connection, you could accomplish something like that but you'd need a router with VPN (client) support.